Originally posted by Master CrimzonWasn't aruing this? Casino is afterall one of my favorite movies of all time. Haven't seen Goodfellas yet. That said, Scott's filmography is nothing to laugh at.
Aside from this, though. Can you genuinely compare Martin Scorsese's fimmaking career to Ridley Scott's?
I would definitely go out of my way to see a movie that is Directed by any of these Directors.
I would have to say that Tarantino, Nolan and Scorsese are probably the best at creating atmosphere, at least to me. I would say Aronofsky, as well but he is still a virgin Director. Requiem for a Dream is one of the most atmospheric movies you will see. While watching Requiem you feel that you are on the brink of having a panic attack. The Wrestler is one of the best character studies i've ever seen but to compare his resume to the other prolific Directors on this list just isn't fair to him. He his still at the beginning of his career.
I really cant choose who is the BEST Director because where some have grander and better vision others are more technical and character driven. It all comes down to personal preference but i really can't choose the best. Out of that list i would say i would be the most compelled to see a new Tarantino, Scott and Aronofsky movie more than any other. Tarantino movie's are always very easy for me to watch so, as for favorite i guess i would say Tarantino. This isn't to say i think his movie's are better than a Scott's or Scorsese, though.
Of course, Cameron is still king 😛
Let me just state why I like some of those directors though:
- Aronofsky: Wonderful at being genuine. He doesn't butter anything up (the ass-to-ass scene comes to mind, he doesn't hold back) or make anything cheesy (The Wrestler could've been very cliche, but it wasn't at all). His stories create a wonderful sense of atmosphere like Jinxed stated above. Each of his movies are distinctly different, but I always care about the characters. I love The Fountain, which is one of the most underrated movies ever. I also love Requiem for a Dream and The Wrestler. I didn't dig Pi, but I'll have to give it another shot. This is the guy to watch.
- Nolan: Nolan is just badass. The way he can create mystery and intrigue and totally hypnotize you/bring you into the story is very impressive imo (thinking of The Prestige in particular, also a very underrated film... do people hate Hugh Jackman?!) His first film Following defnitely foreshadows Memento and you could tell that this guy had talent back then. He delivers a perfect blend of entertainment and art, and he does it in a way that isn't intellectually dumbed down.
- Fincher: Has a very distinct style; David Fincher's created two of my favorite films of all time (Se7en and Fight Club). He's the kind of guy who knows what he wants to do and just does it. Based on his films that I've seen, he seems like he has an amazing attention to detail. There are so many tiny little details in Fight Club that would've been non-existent had another director helmed the project. He honed his directorial style doing a shitload of music videos before he went on to feature films and it really helped him imo.
Other directors that should be mentioned: Paul Thomas Anderson for pete's sake! Guillermo del Toro and the Coen Brothers.
Take out their recent crap (No County For Old Men, excluded), the Coens would win by a country mile. Wes Anderson has made some wonderful movies, but again The Darjeeling Limited wasn't all that. The Fountain was a pile of bunk, so dump Aronofsky. Nolan's Batman movies are excellent, but he's still got work to do. Fincher makes crap like Benjamin Button, too. Tarantino is past it, so is Scorsese. Boyle is current flavour of the month, but he's made crap. I usually like Ridley Scott's movies, but he's made crap. Peter Jackson has made some great movies, but the winner is...
Michael Mann!
Not a bad movie made! Everyone a classic!
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Take out their recent crap (No County For Old Men, excluded), the Coens would win by a country mile. Wes Anderson has made some wonderful movies, but again The Darjeeling Limited wasn't all that. The Fountain was a pile of bunk, so dump Aronofsky. Nolan's Batman movies are excellent, but he's still got work to do. Fincher makes crap like Benjamin Button, too. Tarantino is past it, so is Scorsese. Boyle is current flavour of the month, but he's made crap. I usually like Ridley Scott's movies, but he's made crap. Peter Jackson has made some great movies, but the winner is...Michael Mann!
Not a bad movie made! Everyone a classic!
Michael Mann is an absurdly overrated filmmaker. Even Heat, with the exception of Al Pacino's deliciously manic performance and the phenomenal finale, doesn't have anything to elevate it beyond the 'good crime movie' ranking.
Tarantino is 'past it'? He's made... how many movies in his life? Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction, Resevoir Dogs, Jackie Brown? (I don't exactly count Deathproof as a movie). It's impossible to say that he's 'lost it', considering Kill Bill is a superb movie. Very smart, too, unlike some people make it out to be (funnily enough, that title also applies to the Coen's Burn After Reading). Scorsese? The Departed is an amazing movie. Possibly the best crime drama of the 21st century.
Also, even if you think Benjamin Button sucked, you can at least give Zodiac some kudos, right?
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Michael Mann is an absurdly overrated filmmaker. Even Heat, with the exception of Al Pacino's deliciously manic performance and the phenomenal finale, doesn't have anything to elevate it beyond the 'good crime movie' ranking.
Nah, Manhunter, The Last of the Mohicans, Heat, The Insider, Ali, Collateral, Miami Vice...These are all fantastic movies, and they beat any other director's body of current work. He hasn't suffered a 'blip' since he started! All those other directors can't say that. Also, his movies have lovely colours in them, too.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Tarantino is 'past it'? He's made... how many movies in his life? Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction, Resevoir Dogs, Jackie Brown? (I don't exactly count Deathproof as a movie). It's impossible to say that he's 'lost it', considering Kill Bill is a superb movie.
He's definitely lost it, and his style now looks so dated. Back in the 90s, he was the top dog, but not any more.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Very smart, too, unlike some people make it out to be (funnily enough, that title also applies to the Coen's Burn After Reading). Scorsese? The Departed is an amazing movie. Possibly the best crime drama of the 21st century.
Burn After Reading was the biggest pile of shit I've seen in years. However, take that out along with The Ladykillers and Intolerable Cruelty, and then the Coens' would be looking mighty fine.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Also, even if you think Benjamin Button sucked, you can at least give Zodiac some kudos, right?
Zodiac is alright, Fight Club is alright, but the last great movie he made was in 1995!
So, there you go; you've helped prove that Mann deserves the title!
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Nah, Manhunter, The Last of the Mohicans, Heat, The Insider, Ali, Collateral, Miami Vice...These are all fantastic movies, and they beat any other director's body of current work. He hasn't suffered a 'blip' since he started! All those other directors can't say that. Also, his movies have lovely colours in them, too.
MIAMI VICE is an amazing movie? What the ****ing hell?
With the exception of Heat (which isn't all that, either), Michael Mann has never made a movie that is considerably above alright.
Also, let's look at Michael Mann's 21st century filmography, shall we?
1. Ali
2. Miami Vice
3. Collateral
I haven't seen Ali, but it has a 68% on Rotten Tomatoes, which is generally a good indicator of its quality. Miami Vice is shit. Collateral is okay.
Some of the films pumped out by the other directors on the last in the 21st century:
-Memento
-The Departed
-The Dark Knight/Batman Begins
-Zodiac
-The Aviator
-Kill Bill
-The LotR film series
-Letters from Iwo Jima
-Million Dollar Baby
And many more. You know what they all have in common? They're far better than Mann's recent films.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
He's definitely lost it, and his style now looks so dated. Back in the 90s, he was the top dog, but not any more.
He's made one genuine movie this century. Even if it was 'bad', this is no an indication there his style is deteriorating; simply that he, at one point, could not make a good movie. It happens to every brilliant director.
... which is pointless, since Kill Bill is a great movie with a wonderful style.
The only reason why you would think Tarantino's post-modernism is outdated is because he's had so many ripoffs.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Burn After Reading was the biggest pile of shit I've seen in years. However, take that out along with The Ladykillers and Intolerable Cruelty, and then the Coens' would be looking mighty fine.
So that leaves them with the Man Who Wasn't There and No Country for Old Men?
So, why do you think Burn After Reading was bad? Was it too 'dumb' for you?
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Zodiac is alright, Fight Club is alright, but the last great movie he made was in 1995!
Funny. I suppose you can say Zodiac is alright, but I cannot see how anyone can objectively deny Fight Club's greatness. Aside from being stylishly made in a powerfully atmospheric manner that combines hyper-realism, social satire, extreme violence, and a manic, almost psychotic energy, it's theme is far more intelligent and deep than anything Michael Mann could possibly comprehend.
It's also the best explanation I've ever seen for the Columbine and Virginia Tech-styled shootings, if you can make the connection.