starkiller vs sephiroth

Originally posted by K1ll3r
That feat was done with barely any effort at all on Sephiroths part, I know it doesn't mean anything to this forum, just letting you know. But yeah, nowhere near Galens feat.

Jenova has regenerated from a tentacle. Sephiroth is Jenova. Even while regenerating he could still utilise his Will..

Stopping him from moving wouldn't stop him from utilising his will, say forming a blade in Galens stomach and ripping it up through him.

Sephiroth will be a pile of crumbled bones, skin fragments, and blood. Alot less than a tentacle.

Never shown such an ability. So now Sephiroth can materialize weapons at any point in space with his mind? Bullshit.

Does Sephiroth consist of nothing but theory?

Originally posted by NemeBro
And is still not half of Galen's feat. Glad we agree.

Sephiroth will be a pile of crumbled bones, skin fragments, and blood. Alot less than a tentacle.

Never shown such an ability. So now Sephiroth can materialize weapons at any point in space with his mind? Bullshit.

So Galen could remove from existence over 90% of Sephiroths body with TK?

He materialised three seperate beings who were much more complicated then a simple sword into a point in space with his mind. (He was also not physically alive)

He also materalised a sword in his hands to block Cloud.

You be the judge.

Pretty much.

The only reason people ride him the way they do is because he was stated to be the most powerful being in FFVII, so they come up with theories to make this seem true because there are beings in FFVII who by what they have actually done are far superior to Sephiroth.

What they should just accept is that the writers are idiots and do not possess the concept of continuity in their minds.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
So Galen could remove from existence over 90% of Sephiroths body with TK?

He materialised three seperate beings who were much more complicated then a simple sword into a point in space with his mind. (He was also not physically alive)

He also materalised a sword in his hands to block Cloud.

You be the judge.

2. Care to tell me how quickly he materialised them, where he did it, etc.?

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. No, just crumble it to incredibly small pieces.

2. Care to tell me how quickly he materialised them, where he did it, etc.?

1. Jenovas cells always re-unite.

2. Within a second, two at most. He done it in the Northern Crater.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Does Sephiroth consist of nothing but theory?

Unfortunately, the FF7 games weren't made to showcase Sephiroths full potential. Only to just hint to us at what he is capable of with weird PIS \ CIS to stop him from using his full potential.

The writers of sephiroth are not wrong at all, Sephiroth is more powerful than anything in FF, because he has the Negative lifestream 🙂

Originally posted by Burning thought
The writers of sephiroth are not wrong at all, Sephiroth is more powerful than anything in FF, because he has the Negative lifestream 🙂

Yes he is more powerful than anything in FF 7.

He doesn't have as much NL as Minerva has L, which I believe makes your reasoning wrong.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Unfortunately, the FF7 games weren't made to showcase Sephiroths full potential. Only to just hint to us at what he is capable of with weird PIS \ CIS to stop him from using his full potential.

So fans just make feats up as they please because of what's said about him?

Originally posted by K1ll3r
1. Jenovas cells always re-unite.

2. Within a second, two at most. He done it in the Northern Crater.

2. And you assume he can do such an ability he has never shown? Materialising a blade inside a human being?

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. You really want Galen to fvck Sephiroth up huh? Fine, he separates his body parts miles away and drops them in the ocean, assuming this is even true.

2. And you assume he can do such an ability he has never shown? Materialising a blade inside a human being?

1. Even as Galen does this, Sephiroth does the sword thing. Then the cells come back together. Yes it is true, read the Ultimania Omega. Why do you think the Ancients had such a hard time killing Jenova?

2. I assume he can do it because it wouldn't require anything more then would be required to materialise three seperate beings, without Sephiroth having any reference point to that place. (Because he was drifting as spirit energy in the lifestream.)

It is like this, say we had a character who lifted a box, you wouldn't then say he couldn't lift a sphere of the same wieght right?

Or a more accurate analogy, TKing a boulder wieghing 20 tonnes, then saying that character couldn't TK a 10 tonne boulder.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Yes he is more powerful than anything in FF 7.

He doesn't have as much NL as Minerva has L, which I believe makes your reasoning wrong.

Minerva cannot use the lifestream to wipe out the planet, shes not tried and likely will never do so. Not that it would make a diffrence, the NL is only powerful because its cells corrupt the lifestream like homers tank full of spider pig shit contaminated the lake in the simpsons movie.

its the only reason he needs to be more powerful, other thran that, he is slower, less durable, and physically less powerful than most of the other major FF characters unfrotuantley.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Minerva cannot use the lifestream to wipe out the planet, shes not tried and likely will never do so. Not that it would make a diffrence, the NL is only powerful because its cells corrupt the lifestream like homers tank full of spider pig shit contaminated the lake in the simpsons movie.

its the [b]only reason he needs to be more powerful, other thran that, he is slower, less durable, and physically less powerful than most of the other major FF characters unfrotuantley. [/B]

Minerva has the entire power of the Lifestream (left over from Sephiroth).

No you have this all wrong, Jenova cells corrupt the lifestream, allowing it to be under the control of Sephiroth.

No, you are assuming this. Minerva is more powerful then Sephiroth with The Lifestream against his NL.

The developers think otherwise....And bullshit, Sephiroth has survived being in the lifestream before, infact I think youve even told me so, what possible chance does the lifestream have if the cells within NL just corrupt it? none at all, which is why Sephiroth is powerful in the final fantasy universe (everything is made up of lifestream) but is worthless in VS debates against characters who are not made up of Lifestream.

Originally posted by Burning thought
The developers think otherwise....And bullshit, Sephiroth has survived being in the lifestream before, infact I think youve even told me so, what possible chance does the lifestream have if the cells within NL just corrupt it? none at all, which is why Sephiroth is powerful in the final fantasy universe (everything is made up of lifestream) but is worthless in VS debates against characters who are not made up of Lifestream.

No, you are assuming what the developers think.

Yes, he survived being in the lifestream because he reformed his body with his Will.

What? The NL nor the cells in the NL corrupt anything, the cells in the lifestream make it the NL.

Minerva has at least 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% more lifestream then Sephiroth.

So the force shouldn't work on Sephiroth because he isn't apart of that universe?

Originally posted by K1ll3r
No, you are assuming what the developers think.

Yes, he survived being in the lifestream because he reformed his body with his Will.

What? The NL nor the cells in the NL corrupt anything, the cells in the lifestream make it the NL.

Minerva has at least 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% more lifestream then Sephiroth.

So the force shouldn't work on Sephiroth because he isn't apart of that universe?

I am not assuming anything, they state he is the most powerful and theres one reason why he coud possibly be this powerful, simple...

The Jenova cells corrupt the lifestream, thats why it is made into NL...

There being more lifestream does not mean anything.

No you misunderstand completly, the NL requires something else, another being that its attacking to be made up of lifestream before it can do anything......no other character outside of FF is made up of lifestream which is why he is screwed

Originally posted by Burning thought
I am not assuming anything, they state he is the most powerful and theres one reason why he coud possibly be this powerful, simple...

The Jenova cells corrupt the lifestream, thats why it is made into NL...

There being more lifestream does not mean anything.

No you misunderstand completly, the NL requires something else, another being that its attacking to be made up of lifestream before it can do anything......[b]no other character outside of FF is made up of lifestream which is why he is screwed [/B]

No, if he was more powerful because of the NL, then Minerva wouldn't have more of the lifestream (Making it more powerful). You are assuming this the same way I would be assuming it was because he was really strong.

Yes.

Yes it does.

Actually, no it doesn't.

No because your assuming he is really strong, wheras we know it as a fact that nothing can stop the NL in FF, because everything is made up of lifestream and it just ends up corrupted.

Prove this, what has it destroyed or defeated thats not been made up of the lifestream?

Originally posted by Burning thought
No because your assuming he is really strong, wheras we know it as a fact that nothing can stop the NL in FF, because everything is made up of lifestream and it just ends up corrupted.

Prove this, what has it destroyed or defeated thats not been made up of the lifestream?

I think you still don't get it can't corrupt anymore then it has, making Minervas lifestream more powerful.

Jenova wasn't made up of the lifestream, granted when it did get absorbed it corrupted it.

What states that it cannot corrupt more, and technically it is corrupting more, because it absorbs the other lifestream beings in the world.

........I was talking about the NL...it has not actually absorbed anything that is not the lifestream..