Hulk vs Darkseid · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Mindset Senior Member

I just thought something, a child between Thanos and DS would unite the two sides...Quan and TP can become friends.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mindset
Quan and TP can become friends.

😆 😂 😆 lol1

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

Originally posted by Enyalus
Except that, as we already went over in the general discussion forum months ago, a fist-sized black hole wouldn't have the mass of the sun behind it. Your numbers are complete speculation. And the last few pages of this thread have been complete fail.

The only part that's speculation is the size of a human fist (which I made sure was inside normal ranges). Black holes have consistent density.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Can we please get back to hyping or degrading Hulk or Darkseid? Please?

Hulk rules!

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Enyalus
Obviously. And it doesn't matter - that's clearly what the writer (McDuffie) was saying. 81 billion tons.

Same guy wrote that an MA could rip off Surfer's arm with a single-wing manuever. Guess we'll take that as absolute fact too.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Juntai
Idealistically speaking, Hulk could get strong enough to get a win, the likelyhood of that, is far less than Superman's chances against Darkseid.
Here, Hulk is not Superman, he's not Superman's equal in nearly any sense of the word, save maybe a few dynamics of physical prowess when he's peaking. When he accomplishes this fairly rare level[by comparison], he can do things with power Superman does every arc.
Here, he has no outside help, no real knowledge of his opponent, no plan and no tacticle advantage, as Superman typically does when he does well against Darkseid.
He's just dropped into a battle against one of the most powerful and cunning beings the universe has to offer.
Just because the fight stupulations are slanted in Hulk's favor, do I give him any real plausibility of winning, however I fully believe his chances of getting to Darkseid's level are not very good. And even when he manages it, he'd still be scraping by.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Juntai
In Crisis on Infinite Earths, Earth 2 Superman/Kal L, when fighting Anti-Monitor, grabbed a moon as a method of attack, and threw it at the Anti-Monitor, then grabbed two giant astroids, one for each hand and clapped them into the Anti-Monitor so hard it flung AM 2 million miles through space, and as his body slammed into a planet, Superman was already on top of him, wielding another giant astroid or moon.
In Infinite Crisis, our Superman/Kal El, fought Kal L to nearly a complete standstill.
Later in the same story, our Kal El, and Kal L, flew Superboy Prime through a red star, then landed in kryptonite that was killing only Kal El, as the other two were from another universe and thus uneffected by this... and he still stood up after Kal L went down, and proceeded to end the fight against Prime. Yes, they were all fairly powered down, drained, but Kal El had kryptonite affecting him, and still had deeper reserves than Prime or Kal L.

Not to mention the dozens of other times we've seen him move or smash celestial bodies like moons or such, or explain that he could or is using such force.

McDuffies interpretation of the event, isn't set in stone. Superman's done better before, even just a handful of weeks prior, he was hitting Konvict with enough force to shatter moons or some such.

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!

Originally posted by Juntai
Same guy wrote that an MA could rip off Surfer's arm with a single-wing manuever. Guess we'll take that as absolute fact too.

Except he outright apologized for that BS afterwards. If he does so with this, then there you go.

And while McDuffie should be banned from writing comics period, his Superman feat-wise isn't so bad (but character-wise is.) Wasn't it McDuffie who wrote the Hal/Superman pulling Earth feat? And it was also McDuffie who wrote the AC issue where Superman was tanking a Sun Eater's red solar radiation blast while carrying a large entropy bomb above his head...

So it isn't like the guy has anything against Supes. He's just a moron.

kevdude The Hooded Man

Darkseid beats him to a pulp

KuRuPT Thanosi Senior Member

I'm still cracking up abotu Trick failing in his DS punches Hulks head off which no proof of DS ever doing this let alone doing it to someone with hulks powerset. I believe DS wins by dispatching the hulk before he gets too mad. 6(7)-10 for DS

fangirl101 Restricted

Why the hell is it so easy to accept bullshjit thor hulk surfer thanos feats but ewvery marvel zombie here has to rebuff superman hal wondy darksied feats?

KuRuPT Thanosi Senior Member

Originally posted by fangirl101
Why the hell is it so easy to accept bullshjit thor hulk surfer thanos feats but ewvery marvel zombie here has to rebuff superman hal wondy darksied feats?

That isn't true at all as I have and do give credit where credit is due. If I feel DS wins I give him the victory as I did in this thread. One question fangirl.... do you think as trickster has argued that DS could knock Hulks head off with one shot for this fight?

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That isn't true at all as I have and do give credit where credit is due. If I feel DS wins I give him the victory as I did in this thread. One question fangirl.... do you think as trickster has argued that DS could knock Hulks head off with one shot for this fight?

Frankly, trading blows with someone who can move planets is proof enough. But since you're too one dimensional, much like Hulk, to see it, you can go back to the cesspool called Herochat. doped

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by fangirl101
Why the hell is it so easy to accept bullshjit thor hulk surfer thanos feats but ewvery marvel zombie here has to rebuff superman hal wondy darksied feats?

Hulk's power level fluctuates and with his healing factor it is in the bag for him. Ds relies on his omega too much and avoids these types of matchups. DD easily beat his ass in a few moves.

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OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Comparing H/P DD to Any version of Hulk is an insult. Considering DD evolved after being struck down by the Omega Beams. He was either KOed, or killed.
Hulk would not have that luxury, and Darkseid has speed feats of fighting Superman. Something Hulk could never do.
Darkseid holds durability and strength. Hulk needs time to reach his level, something DS will not give him. Unless you have scans of Hulk surviving beatings from Superman levelers, or tanking solar system destroying blasts or one shotting mid heralds easily, then he's ****ed.

Hulk doesn't need the luxury of evolving past the OE since this is a purely physical brawl.

Darkseid's durability may be superior, but his strength is clearly not. Only one character to my knowledge has not allowed Hulk to become enraged in a fight. Titannus. Name me more in a proportionate amount of the totality of fights that Hulk has and you might have apoint worth considering. Darkseid's speed is equal at best. Hulk has more combat speed feats than Darkseid. Hulk has taken beatings from Thor, Gladiator and Zom Strange. And among the other feats that you list, Hulk has far more 'inane' feats like thunderclapping dimensions, etc.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Hulk doesn't need the luxury of evolving past the OE since this is a purely physical brawl.
Darkseid's durability may be superior, but his strength is clearly not. Only one character to my knowledge has not allowed Hulk to become enraged in a fight. Titannus. Name me more in a proportionate amount of the totality of fights that Hulk has and you might have apoint worth considering. Darkseid's speed is equal at best. Hulk has more combat speed feats than Darkseid. Hulk has taken beatings from Thor, Gladiator and Zom Strange. And among the other feats that you list, Hulk has far more 'inane' feats like thunderclapping dimensions, etc.

Are you serious? You think Hulk's speed is equal with DS? are you serious? LMAO. DS has blitzed Superman. He's caught Mr. Miracle and Orion off gaurd and both of those guys would beat hulk 8 days to sunday in speed. And yes his strength is superior To hulk on the onset. DS is at least equal to Superman in strength. He seems to be superior since his strikes are often back hands and are enough to knock Superman back. It takes Wonder Woman using a force ful kick to get the same results. It takes full on punches from captain marvel to get the same kind of results. thus DS is Superior in strength to the hulk. Since the hulk CANNOT pimp hand superman.

Hulk has speed feats against Who? LMAO. Quicksilver? Please. DS has pwned Orion, Mr. Miracle, Superman, The Infinity Man, Wonder Woman, highfather and others of whom all have VASTLY superior speed to the hulk.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Hulk doesn't need the luxury of evolving past the OE since this is a purely physical brawl.
Darkseid's durability may be superior, but his strength is clearly not. Only one character to my knowledge has not allowed Hulk to become enraged in a fight. Titannus. Name me more in a proportionate amount of the totality of fights that Hulk has and you might have apoint worth considering. Darkseid's speed is equal at best. Hulk has more combat speed feats than Darkseid. Hulk has taken beatings from Thor, Gladiator and Zom Strange. And among the other feats that you list, Hulk has far more 'inane' feats like thunderclapping dimensions, etc.

Darkseid gets basic knowledge. And frankly, without plot stupidity, Hulk should never beat Superman either.

Darkseid has speed feats of fighting Superman. NUFF SAID.

DS&HF move at unthinkable speed to the Source wall.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/NewGodsv310-19.jpg

DS reacting in microseconds to escape the Anti life entity.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_162.jpg
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DS punches Superman to the Source Wall before he can react.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman24-04.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupermanBatman24-06.jpg

Desaad disguised as DS surprised Superman with his speed.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanvol2003p08.jpg

Supes tries a blitz, and gets smacked aside for his troubles.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/003-SupermanBatman013Rembrandt-DCP.jpg

When Hulk can fight Superman as an equal, let me know. 🙄
Young DS KOs Superboy.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion030-03.jpg

Darkseid subdues Superman easily.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/B17-All-OutWar-SupermanManofStee-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/B17-All-OutWar-SupermanManofStee-2.jpg

Lobo hurts his hand punching DS's jaw.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Lobogreat1.jpg

The frigging LSH hits DS as hard as they can to shove him into a boomtube, and though they succeed, DS is noticably unhurt, albeit aggravated.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Lobogreat1.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion030-08.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion030-09.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion030-10.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion030-12.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion030-15.jpg

DS vs. Orion, showing equal combat speed and great skill.

So in comparison, you name Thor, Glads, and "Zom-Strange" ? 😂

Only one of these guys demonstrated combat speed, and Gladiator not only jobbed, he was hit by radiation during his fight.

Thor has no combat speed, but I give you credit for one good example.

Zom-strange however, is worthless. Zom-Strange was winning, and Hulk should not have won that. That win was entirely due to crap writing in WWH. Strange had him, and only lost because he let up and lost control. And really, Zom-Strange barely used any of it's powers, and Strange jobbed horribly.

So in other words, you have nothing. you have nothing that puts Hulk against a true skyfather with superman level strength and durability.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

most of those scans were weaksauce.

and ds stopping a supes blitz with a backhand? no, he took the power ram and then smacked superman away from him, quite different from intercepting it with a slap which would actually mean something.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

None of those feats are anything comparable to any actual combat superspeed save for the microsecond feat. And Hulk has vibrated his hands at 1/9th the speed of light. DS smacking the crap out of Superman in a slugfest means nothing when I can show just as many, if not more fights where he is "smacking Gladiator away when Gladiator tries to speed blitz him." Please. That you have to resort to such extenuations for "speed feats" only shows what little you actually have.

I can show you plenty of times Hulk swatting away speedsters when they're standing still like a few of your scans. I'd get laughed at for trying to pas them off as speed feats. As things stand now, I'm just giggling at yours. Hulk has fought just as many speedsters as DS supposedly has. The only stupidity being put forth here is that just because you fight against someone who has demonstrable superspeed, doesn't mean that you are actually fighting at superspeeds. Funny how people will fall back on such falacious logic, yet completely deny when the other character has done the same.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Speedsters? Quicksilver? Surfer (who never uses his speed on Hulk for the most part)?

Bullshit on Hulk fighting speedsters. None of them are comparable to Superman or people in that class.

You're using crap feats to try and claim he can fight at Superman levels. 👇

Like I said, you have NOTHING.

" The only stupidity being put forth here is that just because you fight against someone who has demonstrable superspeed, doesn't mean that you are actually fighting at superspeed"

That is the most asinine statement I've heard you make in awhile. If you fight someone like Superman several times, and either hold your own, or win, THEN YOU HAVE SUPERSPEED, unless proven otherwise. What about Orion, or Kalibak, or any of the other speed feats?

Hulk, on-panel, isn't much faster than Quicksilver.