Originally posted by carver9Yes, Glads had him outmatched, but my point is this. When Thor hit him it hurt badly and he went down.
You do know that gladiator had masterson thor beat and masterson thor was on the ground dead to rights. Gladiator lost that fight due to him being cocky, standing over masterson thor laughing while getting shot in the back by a magical bolt of lightning.Masterson thor was dead just like every other person that went against gladiator in that arc.
Masterson Thor thought quickly and summoned living lightning and used it to his advantage. Masterson almost killed Glads, not the other way around.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestYes, he did. WW Hulk is more than Gladiator. Hulk held his own and kinda won when he fought him before and has superirior feats.
Yeah right. WWH didn't do shit Gladiator could not have done.MM can take Gladiator if he's not jobbing. Wondy is harder because of her shield, immunity to TP and weapons. He can beat her, but it will take longer.
J'onn's problem is Sentry. He's likely to get killed by either of team 1. I'm giving it to team 1 mainly because I can't see Sentry lasting in a prolonged battle. And J'onn can't beat team 1 by himself.
Glads would tear MM up imo.
The reason team 2 wins is because WW can't hang with these guys once they start throwing haymakers.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Rachel Summers was able to get into Gladz head recently. Martian Manhunter >>Rachel Summers in tp
I doubt thats the case currently now she packing a Phoenix shard.
On top of that when did she get into Glads head. If it was in the last 6 months then she was backed by the Phoenix. With that in mind MM couldnt necessarily repeat the feat.
Originally posted by Naija boyJust because the board has a negative opinion of a character that doesn't mean it is necessarily true. Three of these characters are physical powerhouses while one is not. The odd man/girl out is WW.
His fight against the original human torch was a big factor. (along with the already negative forum opinion of the character beforehand)
Originally posted by quanchi112I do not agree. Wondy has fights with Skyfathers and even abstracts. What is her lowest feat that you can think of? Being ko'd by an 80 times the speed of light punch by a sun amped Superman?
Just because the board has a negative opinion of a character that doesn't mean it is necessarily true. Three of these characters are physical powerhouses while one is not. The odd man/girl out is WW.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Cool. Like what?
1) Having trouble with the shield helicarrier.
2) Taken out by an amped Ms. Marvel
3) Invaders Namor doing well against him
4) Human Torch hurting/overloading him with flame
Those stand out to me the most. It wouldn't have been so bad, but they just came in quick succession with no better showings to balance them out. Made it seem like Marvel just decided he wasn't top tier material...