Originally posted by SupremeManJust because you destroy a planet that doesn't mean you are going to wreck someone who hasn't on panel. feats are good and all, but they don't determine these fights by themselves alone.
If Gladiator has been shown to be capable of shattering planets with a punch or three (pretty much a Silver Age Superman level feat) but then he seems about equal with the Hulk or Hyperion in a fight, I'd say that's right up there with any fight where the characters get their power levels fudged by the writer to make it an interesting fight.
Originally posted by SasaraixxWW is not stronger than MM. There is nothing that suggests that at all.
I disagree. WW is stronger than MM imo. He may be able to amp his strength up to Supe levels but he can't sustain it. Base WW is stronger than base MM and I believe current Wondy writers feel the same way.Add in the fact that she is faster, is a much, much better fighter, isresistant to TP, knows MM very well and has the bracers to protect her and you have Diana taking a slim majority.
Gladiator can take either person on Team 2 for a solid majority. Also, Diana can use her lasso and bracers to protect him from Team 2's more exotic powers.
Team 1 takes this. Gladiator is the toughest person on the field. No one on team 2 is taking him down physically. WW can at least stalemate either guy on Team 2, which is all she needs to do. Also, WW adds more defense to protect Team 1 from Team 2's more effective, non-physical assaults. That adds to Team 1's already impressive durability.
It won't be easy, but they can do it.
Their speed relates and no one is besting the other due to an advantage by their speed.
Sentry can take down Glads physically. The guy took on WW Hulk who is physically one of the baddest mofos out there. ya dig.
Originally posted by SupremeManSentry though has taken on the same character as Gladiator in a stronger form and done much better than Gladiator.
Yeah if this is everybody at their absolute best, it comes down to Gladiator versus Sentry and, while I don't know all of Sentry's feats, I know he's supposed to be able to do anything. Yeah I'm sure that's hyperbole but still. As it is with the stipulation that Gladiator has full confidence, I just don't see Team One losing.Edit: I also find is funny that the OP has to throw in a stipulation to get people to argue the characters at their best and many still won't do it.
Originally posted by quanchi112I'll rememeber that the next time you ask when has Wonder Woman destroyed a planet on panel and you try and use that to demean her.
Just because you destroy a planet that doesn't mean you are going to wreck someone who hasn't on panel. feats are good and all, but they don't determine these fights by themselves alone.
Originally posted by SupremeManSentry raped terrax. Hulk beat Glads. Feats don't determine everything.
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Originally posted by fangirl101Whether she has or not is inconseqential. She isn't as strong as these guys.
I'll rememeber that the next time you ask when has Wonder Woman destroyed a planet on panel and you try and use that to demean her.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry raped terrax. Hulk beat Glads. Feats don't determine everything.
I understand what you're saying but I'm going with what the characters are shown to be at their best. We all know power levels are fudged and that characters job.
Now I am not personally familiar with the Gladiator/ Hulk fight but I suspect it was when the Hulk was at a power level that was far beyond anything he had ever been shown to be before, planet busting level. That's okay one-off though it may be compared to Gladiator but even then, I have to suspect the writer utterly ignored Gladiator's established speed for there to be such a result. If you're going to invoke that, you should also invoke the Hulk being able to go toe-to-toe with Sentry.
At any rate, my main point is that at their best, this comes down to Gladiator versus Sentry.