Watchmen

Started by Kovacs8650 pages
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Are you referring to some of the assassination scenes? 'Cuz even I had heard of them.

Well, if you actually want to know, the only ones with any real significant blood are

Spoiler:
the horse's head scene, and the murder of Sonny
. And I guess you get one shot of a woman's bare breasts, which in 1972 was probably an automatic R-rating/ 18.
Anyway, it definitely wouldn't qualify as an 18 in England now, at least. The thing that really bugged me about Watchmen actually was the unnecessary violence and gore thrown in by Snyder plainly to say "hey, kids, this is an adult film". It was ludicrously out of character at times (during their fight with the knot-tops in the alley, Dan and Laurie break people's arms so the bone sticks out and shove knives in their necks, etc, and Rorchach's killing of the kiddy murderer was pretty vicious too (he repeatedly strikes him in the head with a clever), while not being half as effective as the scene in the book. Increasing the length of action sequences does not mean they make more of an impact. Quite often, it's the complete opposite.

I just saw the movie today... It SUCKED! MAN I felt that my life was being drained by this movie. It was way too long. I've read the graphic novel and I have no problem with the story. But as a movie, I was terrible. This goes to show not every graphic novel needs to become a movie. The movie sucked!

It's Snyder's problem, as exampled so nicely seen in 300. He does not understand subtlety or the concept of genuine emotional impact; rather, he thinks that the only way to thrill is via bombastic and hyper-realistic direction. He thinks that "more exaggeration is more quality!', when the truth is that constant grandiose direction simply drives the film into the ridiculous and the meaningless.

Originally posted by Kovacs86
Well, if you actually want to know, the only ones with any real significant blood are
Spoiler:
the horse's head scene, and the murder of Sonny
. And I guess you get one shot of a woman's bare breasts, which in 1972 was probably an automatic R-rating/ 18.
Anyway, it definitely wouldn't qualify as an 18 in England now, at least. The thing that really bugged me about Watchmen actually was the unnecessary violence and gore thrown in by Snyder plainly to say "hey, kids, this is an adult film". It was ludicrously out of character at times (during their fight with the knot-tops in the alley, Dan and Laurie break people's arms so the bone sticks out and shove knives in their necks, etc, and Rorchach's killing of the kiddy murderer was pretty vicious too (he repeatedly strikes him in the head with a clever), while not being half as effective as the scene in the book. Increasing the length of action sequences does not mean they make more of an impact. Quite often, it's the complete opposite.

yeah I have yet to read the novel but the part where they pretty much destroy those street punks seemed out of character for Nite Owl anyway, couldn't picture him doing more than what was necessary.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
It's Snyder's problem, as exampled so nicely seen in 300. He does not understand subtlety or the concept of genuine emotional impact; rather, he thinks that the only way to thrill is via bombastic and hyper-realistic direction. He thinks that "more exaggeration is more quality!', when the truth is that constant grandiose direction simply drives the film into the ridiculous and the meaningless.

Snyder extending the fight scenes didn't really weaken the emotional impact the movie had, not in any way. If anything, it was the Silk Spectre's shitty acting.

I didn't think she was terrible.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Snyder extending the fight scenes didn't really weaken the emotional impact the movie had, not in any way. If anything, it was the Silk Spectre's shitty acting.

I liked Malin Ackerman in the role

I really liked this movie. Rorschach is god and they made Night Owl really cool to and I liked the movies ending more then the novels. Some problems I had with the movie are Ozymandias the actor didn't seem right didn't have the right face or build and I didn't like his costume worse then Silk Specters I think. The other issue I had was when they played that song(can't spell it) during the sex scene ruined the mood felt comedic.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Snyder extending the fight scenes didn't really weaken the emotional impact the movie had, not in any way. If anything, it was the Silk Spectre's shitty acting.

Wasn't too bad. She was a bit outclassed by some of the other actors but she wasn't by any means bad.

Originally posted by Captain REX
I didn't think she was terrible.

I did. She blatantly wasn't cast because of acting ability, though...

Originally posted by Kovacs86
I did. She blatantly wasn't cast because of acting ability, though...

Yes, really.

She WAS awful. She was having a hard time saying "mother" with a straight face.

Bah who cares? She's mega hot.

Originally posted by Icy Ninja
The other issue I had was when they played that song(can't spell it) during the sex scene ruined the mood felt comedic.

I agree. Some of the songs were definitely out of place, that one being the absolute worst. I also didn't like it when All Along the Watchtower was played, either. Didn't fit the mood.

thought they would have put Hollis Mason's death in the movie.

Originally posted by Nihilist
thought they would have put Hollis Mason's death in the movie.
Yeah me to, I was actually expecting it.

its in the extended cut i believe

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I agree. Some of the songs were definitely out of place, that one being the absolute worst. I also didn't like it when All Along the Watchtower was played, either. Didn't fit the mood.

It was like five seconds and they were just flying. There wasn't much of a mood.

None of the songs bothered me all that much to be honest.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I agree. Some of the songs were definitely out of place, that one being the absolute worst. I also didn't like it when All Along the Watchtower was played, either. Didn't fit the mood.
That was actually the point of it.

"The movie's graphic sexual encounter between Nite Owl II and Silk Spectre II aboard the Owl Ship is set to the tune of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah. Originally Zack Snyder used a recording of the song by Allison Crowe for this controversial scene, but decided Crowe's version was "too romantic" and "too sexy" for a scene that is intended to come across as ironic and "ridiculous"."

I understood this when I saw it, I think most of the cinema did too. It's not exactly unobvious.

The ending credits music pissed me off the most.