I thought this was pretty damn funny...
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/03/the_watchmen_li.html
The words "stupid" and "*****" spring to mind.
Originally posted by Kovacs86
I thought this was pretty damn funny...http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/03/the_watchmen_li.html
The words "stupid" and "*****" spring to mind.
Good Lord.Who is that woman? 😐
Originally posted by Kovacs86
I thought this was pretty damn funny...http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/03/the_watchmen_li.html
The words "stupid" and "*****" spring to mind.
Aww! Why did you have to post that?? That makes me a sad goat. . . Now I'm mad. . .
I thought about joining that god forsaken site, and set her straight, but reading the comments, many have tried and failed.
She reminds me of the type of person who repeats what they want over and over until they get it. Goddamn ***** ***** with a side of ********* *****ed ******** ******* I don't know, I got nothin'
I thought this was pretty damn funny...http://www.debbieschlussel.com/arch...atchmen_li.html
The words "stupid" and "*****" spring to mind.
She has a point, kids should not watch this movie. Ever. She was clearly pissed at the twits who she saw take their kids to see it. And I can see why some people wouldn't like this movie, it clearly doesn't appeal to all audiences.
Originally posted by Kovacs86
I thought this was pretty damn funny...http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/03/the_watchmen_li.html
The words "stupid" and "*****" spring to mind.
What do you expect when you let a woman write a movie review?
I mean, common :/
Originally posted by nimbus006
A question occurred to me yesterday...Is Dr. Manhattan the most accurately adapted comic book character in regards to power levels?
I mean he was pretty spot on.
Unlike others such as Surfer, Phoenix, Doom, Magneto, Juggernaut, Hulk etc...
Um... Batman?
Anyway, seriously, I guess the difference really is that Snyder stuck to one story and didn't have to make up his own Dr Manhattan 'feats' or whatever. In other comic films, it's normally an original storyline (to a point), so they have to use the powers to help the story progress, even if it requires increasing/ decreasing characters' usual powers. Not that any comic characters seem to have very accurately specified power levels... they seem to fluctuate every month anyway...
Originally posted by Kovacs86
I thought this was pretty damn funny...http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/03/the_watchmen_li.html
The words "stupid" and "*****" spring to mind.
Wow.... C U Next Tuesday!
Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Oh, I also liked seeing the news stand guy and the kid who reads the pirate comic in the Watchmen Graphic Novel, would have been cool if they incorporated that somehow, but I heard they will have it on the dvd's special features, maybe an extended version?? Anyone know??
Yeah there's an extended version that will be released to dvd. Snyder's cut. It'll have more of the newstand and other random things. Hollis Mason's death I think was shot so it'll probably be in there.
The extended will be great.
I dug this movie alot. I actually cringed quite a few times at the brutality. Like when Manhattan splodes those villains in like a bar, and their guts splatter all over the ceiling and stuff. FANTASTIC.
Originally posted by Kovacs86
I thought this was pretty damn funny...http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/03/the_watchmen_li.html
The words "stupid" and "*****" spring to mind.
Well, with the exception of her "Watchmen has some blood = should be rated NC-17" (I personally think the NC-17 rating itself should be abolished; it is impossible for a singular group to generalize what is appropriate to view for every single individual under 17. This is up to the parents and the kid him/herself), and her general use of absolutes regarding kids her parents, I do think she has a point. She's not one of the nutjob evangelicals begging for everything that violates their moral standards to be universally banned; she's simply warning parents that Watchmen is a highly violent movie for adults. This is actually opposed to backlashing against the film or the graphic novel in itself- she's attacking the moronic parents who will inevitably go take their five year olds to see it and then complain about the 'blatant misinformation' they received.
I do think that certain aspects of Warner Bros. marketing campaign was stupid (making this appear like a typical superhero film is wrong), but if you leave the media to raise your kids and tell them what to do, you're a ****ing idiot.
Actually, scratch that. I just finished reading the entirety of the article, and she isn't complaining just about the movie's appropriatness for kids, she's complaining about the movie's appropriateness for everyone. **** her.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Well, with the exception of her "Watchmen has some blood = should be rated NC-17" (I personally think the NC-17 rating itself should be abolished; it is impossible for a singular group to generalize what is appropriate to view for every single individual under 17. This is up to the parents and the kid him/herself), and her general use of absolutes regarding kids her parents, I do think she has a point. She's not one of the nutjob evangelicals begging for everything that violates their moral standards to be universally banned; she's simply warning parents that Watchmen is a highly violent movie for adults. This is actually opposed to backlashing against the film or the graphic novel in itself- she's attacking the moronic parents who will inevitably go take their five year olds to see it and then complain about the 'blatant misinformation' they received.I do think that certain aspects of Warner Bros. marketing campaign was stupid (making this appear like a typical superhero film is wrong), but if you leave the media to raise your kids and tell them what to do, you're a ****ing idiot.
Actually, scratch that. I just finished reading the entirety of the article, and she isn't complaining just about the movie's appropriatness for kids, she's complaining about the movie's appropriateness for everyone. **** her.
A) Why do I think you may be a tad biased in relation to the whole NC-17 rating thing? 😛
B) Yeah, she's a Nazi. Another reason for me to hate Republicans.
Originally posted by Kovacs86
Um... Batman?Anyway, seriously, I guess the difference really is that Snyder stuck to one story and didn't have to make up his own Dr Manhattan 'feats' or whatever. In other comic films, it's normally an original storyline (to a point), so they have to use the powers to help the story progress, even if it requires increasing/ decreasing characters' usual powers. Not that any comic characters seem to have very accurately specified power levels... they seem to fluctuate every month anyway...
Actually, even Batman is nowhere near the skill level or physical ability of his comic book counterpart.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Well, with the exception of her "Watchmen has some blood = should be rated NC-17" (I personally think the NC-17 rating itself should be abolished; it is impossible for a singular group to generalize what is appropriate to view for every single individual under 17. This is up to the parents and the kid him/herself), and her general use of absolutes regarding kids her parents, I do think she has a point. She's not one of the nutjob evangelicals begging for everything that violates their moral standards to be universally banned; she's simply warning parents that Watchmen is a highly violent movie for adults. This is actually opposed to backlashing against the film or the graphic novel in itself- she's attacking the moronic parents who will inevitably go take their five year olds to see it and then complain about the 'blatant misinformation' they received.I do think that certain aspects of Warner Bros. marketing campaign was stupid (making this appear like a typical superhero film is wrong), but if you leave the media to raise your kids and tell them what to do, you're a ****ing idiot.
Actually, scratch that. I just finished reading the entirety of the article, and she isn't complaining just about the movie's appropriatness for kids, she's complaining about the movie's appropriateness for everyone. **** her.
what the realy diff between R and NC-17 really when the theater is suppose to be carding.
watchmen is not for kids for the primary reason that i don't want some friken 12 year old giggling because they see boobes or little kids crying because doc m exploded a few guys. The gor was overboard i think everyone has to comp to that. it's just not for kids. Not to mention majority of kids won't appearshate it for what it would be appearshated for. I had the mis fortune of being there when this familly brought there whole family kids ranging from 10 to 14 and a baby. I was pissed. the theater eventually kicked them out of that show but come on. Also i went on a school day during the day so these parents took their kids out of school to watch it.
Originally posted by Kovacs86
A) Why do I think you may be a tad biased in relation to the whole NC-17 rating thing? 😛
I am. 😄
No, seriously, there is no point to the NC-17 rating. It is not for a group of individuals to generalize the general intelligence and viewing capacity of everyone under 17. Only the parents, and the kids, can judge what they can handle: it is NOT for the MPAA to decide.
Also, giving an NC-17 is indirect censorship. If you slap a film with an NC-17, you either doom it to an extremely limited release and box office disaster, in addition to preventing multiple people from seeing it, or you doom it to studio intervention, which prevents the filmmaker from achieving their artistic intent and ultimately censors them.
Originally posted by Kovacs86
B) Yeah, she's a Nazi. Another reason for me to hate Republicans.
Yeah... I bet she and Sarah Palin are friends. Clearly her standards of decency are univeral and apply to every human being in existence, even if they don't know it!
Originally posted by Kovacs86
what the realy diff between R and NC-17 really when the theater is suppose to be carding.watchmen is not for kids for the primary reason that i don't want some friken 12 year old giggling because they see boobes or little kids crying because doc m exploded a few guys. The gor was overboard i think everyone has to comp to that. it's just not for kids. Not to mention majority of kids won't appearshate it for what it would be appearshated for. I had the mis fortune of being there when this familly brought there whole family kids ranging from 10 to 14 and a baby. I was pissed. the theater eventually kicked them out of that show but come on. Also i went on a school day during the day so these parents took their kids out of school to watch it.
Umm... has it occured to you that not all kids are the same, and that you cannot decide what every single kid is capable of viewing based on their maturity level? Has it occured to you that it is the parents who ultimately know their child's maturity level and his intelligence better than anybody else? Has it occured to you that you are not a parent, and have no responsibility over somebody else's children? I didn't think so. Also, and R rating prevents people from entering the theatres unless they are accompanied by an adult. An NC-17 prevents underaged people from entering the theatre, no matter what.
You want proof that not all kids are the same? I watched the original Saw, apparently one of the most violent 'mainstream' movies ever made (and FAR more violent than Watchmen), when I was 13. Not in theatres, of course. And you know what? I did not go insane. I was not traumatized for life. I am not a violent person. In fact, I'm a peace-loving liberal. Since then, I've watched several 'deep', 'complex', and 'violent' films, greatly enjoyed them and understood them beyond the mere violence. Some examples? No Country for Old Men, the Departed, Pulp Fiction, Silence of the Lambs. I've read Watchmen, and I like to think that I understood its themes and messages regarding vigilantism, absolutism, self-declared, juvenille, violent, and sexual 'superheroism', and the trust in self-appointed, inherently fascist people to guide the fate of the world. I'm 'only' 15, which is only one year more than 14.
See? Not all kids are the same!
Um... Crimzon, I didn't post that last quote, despite the fact that my name's attached to it...
But, yeah, I'm inclined to agree with you over NC-17/ 18/ whatever certificates. They're not really enforceable and merely mean people either lie about their age or watch the film online. I can't say many 15 year olds are likely to be traumatised by the vast majority of 18/ NC-17 certificate films, either. I can't remember ever being that bothered by violence. It's just there as a part of some films. Gratuitous violence is one thing, but violence displayed in many great films (I'll ignore Watchmen, as I'm not sure it applies, and it's definitely not a great film) is entirely necessary and only used in driving the plot forward, etc. I certainly can't imagine any relatively mature teen who doesn't have severepsychiatric problems being that affected by The Godfather, Fight Club, Pulp Fiction, etc.