Originally posted by EnyalusThe fact is that there's levels, do you think in that instance, Surfer blasted Galactus, and Galactus was trying to eye-beam him, that he could have simply stopped and redirected or converted the energy into something less harmful or more helpful to himself?
Or FS, Hal, Thanos, and SS remember they're all energy manipulators and either block/redirect/absorb that energy.10 seconds prep means shields up for Thanos, vibranium or promethium suits for everyone thanks to Firestorm, and hell, maybe even a Blue Lantern ring for SS (or Firestorm). And Thanos can link everyone up telepathically. Monarch would get BFR'd by Thanos. Could also probably revert Captain Marvel to Billy (he's reverted Captain Mar-Vell to Rick with a glance.) All of team one can fly, and FS can turn the ground to tar or something so Zoom is screwed. Hal basically has an unlimited charge. Thanos & SS are used to working together. And Hal and FS have worked together before, so in addition to having Thanos as field commander, being mind-linked, they also get the advantage of teamwork.
Again...team one FTW.
Similar instance here.
Originally posted by Juntai
The fact is that there's levels, do you think in that instance, Surfer blasted Galactus, and Galactus was trying to eye-beam him, that he could have simply stopped and redirected or converted the energy into something less harmful or more helpful to himself?Similar instance here.
FS has redirected Darkseid's OBs before. Thanos could very well open up a teleportation window to shunt the energy from Monarch's blast there. SS can go intangible. Hal can build somesort of curved pipe construct to toss back Monarch's blast at himself (like what Ion did to Grayven in his mini)...Those are just a few ways. And Vibranium absorbs energy to a certain extent. So if FS is making them suits of that nature, even easier.
None of Team One is getting one-shotted or even close. And I personally think CM is the weak link here. Hell, with 10 seconds prep...Zoom as well.
Originally posted by Enyalus
FS has redirected Darkseid's OBs before. Thanos could very well open up a teleportation window to shunt the energy from Monarch's blast there. SS can go intangible. Hal can build somesort of curved pipe construct to toss back Monarch's blast at himself (like what Ion did to Grayven in his mini)...Those are just a few ways. And Vibranium absorbs energy to a certain extent. So if FS is making them suits of that nature, even easier.None of Team One is getting one-shotted or even close. And I personally think CM is the weak link here. Hell, with 10 seconds prep...Zoom as well.
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Originally posted by EnyalusYou didn't really address my post, but rather dodged it altogether.
FS has redirected Darkseid's OBs before. Thanos could very well open up a teleportation window to shunt the energy from Monarch's blast there. SS can go intangible. Hal can build somesort of curved pipe construct to toss back Monarch's blast at himself (like what Ion did to Grayven in his mini)...Those are just a few ways. And Vibranium absorbs energy to a certain extent. So if FS is making them suits of that nature, even easier.None of Team One is getting one-shotted or even close. And I personally think CM is the weak link here. Hell, with 10 seconds prep...Zoom as well.
And I personally think, Monarch could probably solo the field altogether.
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Needless to say, multiple GLs and Firestorms were well out of their league against him. As was an army of Captain Atoms. As was a JLA-like assemblence. Nothing even really phased him. It was effortless. He looked easily as impressive as when Thanos had the gauntlet and was toying with that team of heros, if not more-so, as he wasn't getting battered.
Originally posted by JuntaiYou da man now dog 👆
You didn't really address my post, but rather dodged it altogether.And I personally think, Monarch could probably solo the field altogether.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/monarchpower4.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/monarchpowerintelligence1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/monarchpowerintelligence2.jpghttp://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/monarchpower12.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/monarchvscaptainatoms3.jpg
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Needless to say, multiple GLs and Firestorms were well out of their league against him. As was an army of Captain Atoms. As was a JLA-like assemblence. Nothing even really phased him. It was effortless. He looked easily as impressive as when Thanos had the gauntlet and was toying with that team of heros, if not more-so, as he wasn't getting battered.
Originally posted by Juntai
You didn't really address my post, but rather dodged it altogether.
You compared Galactus to Monarch. I didn't think I needed to answer it. But if you need it, then my answer to that original question is 'no.' I do think Surfer should have been able to phase through the blast or throw up a shield to take most of the damage, though.
EDIT: I hated Countdown: Arena's art...
Originally posted by EnyalusIt was the first comparison of someone slinging around signicantly higher levels of energy than another that I thought of.
You compared Galactus to Monarch. I didn't think I needed to answer it. But if you need it, then my answer to that original question is 'no.' I do think Surfer should have been able to phase through the blast or throw up a shield to take most of the damage, though.EDIT: I hated Countdown: Arena's art...
And lets not act like Monarch wasn't a high end enemy. Galactus? Maybe not, but how far from it? The scope of his story, and power shown, implied or otherwise easily identify him as a multiversal threat, just look at all that happened in his arcs of Countdown.
Originally posted by Juntai
And lets not act like Monarch wasn't a high end enemy. Galactus? Maybe not, but how far from it? The scope of his story, and power shown, implied or otherwise easily identify him as a multiversal threat, just look at all that happened in his arcs of Countdown.
Multiversal threat because of his access to the Bleed and his incredible army. Not multiversal power. He's skyfather. Medium to high, depending on how much you like him.
What's stopping Firestorm from transmuting his armor?
Originally posted by EnyalusDid you miss the scan of him absorbing firestorm to add to his power?
Multiversal threat because of his access to the Bleed and his incredible army. Not multiversal power. He's skyfather. Medium to high, depending on how much you like him.What's stopping Firestorm from transmuting his armor?
Originally posted by EnyalusThat's just the artwork put to the scene. If he was going to dodge it, or do something against it, he would have. The idea is that he couldn't do anything. The heros were nothing compared to him, that was one of the staples of the arc.
No, I didn't. But on KMC FS isn't going to be standing around gawking while Monarch creates a DBZ-like energy blast...
