YouTube video Didn't you say Dante is faster? Gives Dante brute force[Gilgamesh]and he could knock him in the air like Vergil did Beowulf and cut him in half.
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Cosmic: If that's in the case. Dante puts a bullet in Link's face killing him. Or goes Majin Form or uses Dreadnought.
He does not have any, we both know Berial has shown no real power whatsoever, I think a single pistol shot defeated Berial when he turned into an infernal face and charged Dante.
beings in DMC seem to be at a lower grade than most other series, the main characters themselves such as Vergil and Dante have all the power and their villains have little.
I've already given you MOUNTAINS of proof. Lol, what more do you want? He's survived sword hits that DISINTEGRATE stone, being in the moon when it's destroyed and falling back to earth, and let alone that.. Do you UNDERSTAND the forces it takes to move TWO MILLION POUNDS of rock hundreds of metres in a single throw? If for every action there is an equal reaction he was under TENS OF MILLIONS OF POUNDS of force, what bullet can exert that? L.o.l.
Originally posted by Burning thought
He does not have any, we both know Berial has shown no real power whatsoever, I think a single pistol shot defeated Berial when he turned into an infernal face and charged Dante.beings in DMC seem to be at a lower grade than most other series, the main characters themselves such as Vergil and Dante have all the power and their villains have little.
Once again you earn my respect. @_@
Originally posted by Burning thought
He does not have any, we both know Berial has shown no real power whatsoever, I think a single pistol shot defeated Berial when he turned into an infernal face and charged Dante.beings in DMC seem to be at a lower grade than most other series, the main characters themselves such as Vergil and Dante have all the power and their villains have little.
And what you always have proof? **** outta here.
wrong section.
but go here since it applies to both I guess
lol did some counting on when TP link is sent away by the cannon to the city in the sky
watch this vid for understanding what it is about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NSG8ifbVAo
okay so the height of the city in the sky is about 5000 meters, I assume that cause it is above the thick clouds which end at this height, I guess that link weighs about 100 kilograms, He has some serious muscle mass and a heavy gear to move around(its also a nice number to count with XD). i guess the gravity is the same as here on Tellus(9.82) but since Im lazy I say its 10. I assume there is no air resistance(cause Im lazy XD).
okay to count how much energy link needs to get to the city in the sky I use this formula:
mgh=E
m= mass of the object in this case link
g= gravity, I said I will use 10 as number here
h= height above starting point
E= energy
gives
100*10*5000=5* 10^6 (LOL)
so 5 millions of joule LOL thats much
then further on I can count what speed link travels at at the beggining with this formula:
(mv^2)/2=E
m= mass
v= velocity
E=energy
gives:
(100*v^2)/2=5*10^6
100*v^2=10^7
v^2=10^5
v= aprox. 320 m/s which is about 1000 km/h
this is a good proof of what link can stand, remeber that there is lots of energy lost when shooting away something with something as inaccurate as cannon as(much ass XD) sound and heat also into the ground that absorbes some of the energy LOL.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Since the main issue I'm discussing is durability I'll address this:Firstly, Yamato was not the only sword to hurt him.
Dante right afterward was stabbed by his own Rebellion which also hurt him. He promptly fainted from the accumulated damage from those two blows(after brief scene where we get a glimpse at his devil form)
Dante once again was hurt in DMC 1 when Alastor impaled him once in the chest, he was visibly and audibly hurt and he did not instantly recover. It took nearly a minute for him to regain his full composure.
Magic armor wears out, giants mask can only be used against that one specific boss iirc, and the cape(does it have a limit, or does it take some kind of energy, like magic?) would probably be the only slight problem, but then again dante could just slow time with any one of his time controlling abilites and shot gun all around him till he finds link. Not so hard. Even in majoras form, dante is faster than him iirc, from what ive seen from majora. And Link may have super human skin, but there is no way he could tank a direct shot from rebellion witht the strength that dantes has, which, ill admit, isnt as strong as links or near it, but is strong enough to pierce links skin. Easily. And for naryus love(which you didnt mention, im just taking out all possible options for link) unless it works in an instant, which iirc it hasnt, then all dante has to look out for is a sign that hes going to activate it, then speed blitz him and end the fight.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
(As an aside: canonically Alastor is not as powerful as the Yamato yet Dante was still hurt by the blow regardless of him being a prime late 20s man as opposed to a 17-18 year old teen in DMC 3--He did not recover that much better from the Alastor impalement as he did from being impaled by the Yamato. I only mentioned this to say that there is nothing to suggest that Dante's regeneration got noticeably better despite his skill obviously increasing with experience and age.)Secondly your mention of the scythes stabbing Dante to no effect isn't revealing at all since I already mentioned that:
Originally posted by CosmicComet
When I mentioned grunt weapons, I was specifically talking about those very scythe ghouls that Dante tanked.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
The difference between Dante, Link and ESPECIALLY Kratos, is that Dante can still be pierced by those scythe blows. The latter two by way of greater pure durability, would not. Dante has shown that he gets slowed down even when attacked once by a powerful attack. Link WILL be able to hit him a few times at least. Even if Link has to play defensively, Dante will still steadily tire himself out since he will be on the offensive as blisteringly hectic as he can.Anyway might as well address the savior bit too.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Like I said for the agility comment, that it is another matter entirely. I know it's irrelevant, I said as much.But once more, catching Savior's punch is impressive I'm not going to say otherwise, but again, I mentioned that savior has not demonstrated impressive physical feats for his size anyway. He was only shown what... making some dents in the ground with some smoke flying up when he was smashing his fists on the ground? Savior is obviously heavy, but if the force his punch generates isn't that impressive (via the acceleration half of the equation being slow for him) then is catching the punch itself as amazing as initially thought? To put it plainly, it isn't.
I never said you didnt, i was just stating it myself. redundancy, to me, is the key to mindlessly beat something into someones head.
Let me put it like this: the wieght of savior alone is an impressive feat for a speed based guy. This would make perfect sense to say and debate with if dante and link were the same speed, but unforunately, there not even close. And savior did throw a punch, even if it didnt add much, it still added some force.
Based on speed alone, dante wins this. There is nothing link will or can to do stop him, everything link has is based on limits, everything he has, has a limit to it, which all dante has to do is wait a lil for it to wear out, and quicksilver, speed blitz, and fights over. And for a speed based guy he isnt so weak himself, either.