Dante vs Link

Originally posted by Terryc250
So you're saying Link took a universal explosion? Yeah ok. Come on, get real.

The moon turned into a rainbow, that's it, NOTHING was harmed, the thing below it didn't get harmed at all.

So show me the universe blowing up then? Why can't you? Because it didn't happen, that's why. Majora died, his universe vashied along with him, that's it. There isn't any scientific essay needed to attempt at making Link more stronger then he realistically is. It's simple.

Terry has a selective filter on his headthat only accepts things he likes.

The moon was destroyed with Link inside, and he was exposed to the same level of destruction and survived, regardless of how it happened. Fact. The least destructive method possible would be an explosion.

Originally posted by Peach
Ummm...no. It doesn't work that way. You shouldn't be behaving like that at all.

But I will not change or back down to apologize for the things I said and stated. I clearly bashed his intelligence and questioned his credibility to a full. Because such things would seem obvious staples to have to be in a debate based forum. The lack of common sense astounds me. I'll concede since I understand the respect of T.O.S. and guidelines. That doesn't change my view or the facts I stated earlier.

Kek.

No, i've read it but I really didn't think you meant it, because Link taking Universal explosions is probably the most ridiculous thing ever. But okay there buddy.

I don't even care anymore, it doesn't matter, you can't prove Link did. And no one on these entire forums believe your theory anyway, except your little Link clique.

Yup, Link takes universal explosions(lol hard to say that with a straight face), he's many folds more durable then Galactus. He's god level.

..You realise the universe in question was small?

Your feeble strawman is noted.

hence pocket universe....

Originally posted by Voyeur
First off terry, this isn't a possibility. It just is and ....
ARE you really that dumb? are you really? You can't be. Honestly, no one can be. Everything your saying is "lolholes" You can't grasp what I explained over and over again. Go do this.

Imagine you have a marble in your hand. Your fist is clasping it tight. The marble represents the pocket universe Majora created. Your fist is the moon. Something from inside the marble causes it to burst in energy and be destroyed, and a shock left from that energy forces your hand to loose it's grip (this being the moon evaporating) The Main force, the main explosion, happened in the pocket universe, that is what ...you know what...no, you're to brain dead or something to even understand something that simple.

There's the ****ing canon words, there's the developers words and there is the video shown. Stop using the word explosion in your mind as if it something goes "Ka-Boom" with gas, smoke, and fire. Everything you're saying is retarded and not fallible because I showed you hands down exactly what we're getting across.

ENERGY! (power, joules, force)
K1Lla441, first. "sort of ties"? No. It does. There's the quotes and words of canon, there are the videos all showing it out for you of what took place. The feat, what exactly is that? This feat is about the endurance and durability that Link can tank something point blank that powerful and immense of energy in Joules via Light, protons that showed properties of thermal evaporation and still survive. Where isn't the proof? because I'd LOVE for you to point it out.

If you guys honestly can not understand, either because you're trolling the truth or you're just not that educated on the matter, then there's no hope. I'll explain on an even more minuscule scale some other time. -__- You underestimated Link and now there's people showing you what he can do other wise, are you that scared to grasp it?

Where, canonically, can you show me any words or quotes WHERE IT SAYS THE MOON EXPLODED. you cant, so its NOT PROOF. How am i supposed to point out something THAT ISNT THERE?? Do you even know the defenition of proof? everything that you say are your little theories of what could have happened, but the key words are "could have", becuase no one knows for a fact that the moon exploded. nobody.

And i dont know what you guys are talking about, terry and jaxx both know what they are talking about, they simply know the meaning of proof, what you guys have yet to understand.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
Where, canonically, can you show me any words or quotes WHERE IT SAYS THE MOON EXPLODED. you cant, so its NOT PROOF. How am i supposed to point out something THAT ISNT THERE?? Do you even know the defenition of proof? everything that you say are your little theories of what could have happened, but the key words are "could have", becuase no one knows for a fact that the moon exploded. nobody.

And i dont know what you guys are talking about, terry and jaxx both know what they are talking about, they simply know the meaning of proof, what you guys have yet to understand.

Majora explodes. You see him in the video start to break apart and become no more and a burst of Light/Energy. The room that the final battle takes place is still physically in tact when Majora begins this, and while he is already fallen and broken into pieces from the Light. While the room is reacting physically by shaking, rumbling, pieces of the ceiling are falling down. The signs of an eruption, as the cliche silent 'boom' goes. Now you see the top of the moon start to break off into pieces, crumble, the same way the energy and Light affected Majora, it seems to have the energy and power now to destroy a physical existed moon that was brought out of orbit.

"and the moon that spelled doom for Clock Town will be no more."-Canon quote.

so the moon is 100% no more.

So there is what you see in the video right? And there is the quote. So, you see the moon physically start to be torn apart by that light so forth. Then later you see Link having to awake, meaning some sort of force was put on him to put him in that state. Be it the blast or that he hit the ground.

the moon did not explode. Or more or less not in the sense that you people think of explosions. Bombs, fireworks and shit. From there it is pretty simple to fill in the blanks and connect the dots. Even with out me having to shove physics down your guys' throats, I think you can tell what is going on. Watch the video again, and stop being narrow minded.

So how did you think the theories of nature was made, by watching only, lol, NO, its done by sometimes guessing with things that seems to fit in the puzzle. Tell me how to prove the big bang theory other than that it explains a lot of how the universe works or maybe even the evolution theroy, nope darwin didnt know there were genes but somehow these thories can predict some things.

We need to come to an agreement of what happened and there is no doubt the moon has a pocket universe since I cant see any green fields on top of the moon and inside the moon there could not be this infinite blue sky(Its night when you enter the moon also). so pocket universe no doubt. What happens exactly when majora dies is an intresting question. The pocket universe exploding is very likely since there is particles left after the destruction of the moon and link is not sent downwards to clock town but in some other direction to the termina field.

Its not as much as nintendo says so(there is very little such things, lol, that maybe why link is so underrated) as the actual thing that happened.

Originally posted by lootic
Its not as much as nintendo says so(there is very little such things, lol, that maybe why link is so underrated) as the actual thing that happened.

Originally posted by lootic
So how did you think the theories of nature was made, by watching only, lol, NO, its done by sometimes guessing with things that seems to fit in the puzzle. Tell me how to prove the big bang theory other than that it explains a lot of how the universe works or maybe even the evolution theroy, nope darwin didnt know there were genes but somehow these thories can predict some things.

We need to come to an agreement of what happened and there is no doubt the moon has a pocket universe since I cant see any green fields on top of the moon and inside the moon there could not be this infinite blue sky(Its night when you enter the moon also). so pocket universe no doubt. What happens exactly when majora dies is an intresting question. The pocket universe exploding is very likely since there is particles left after the destruction of the moon and link is not sent downwards to clock town but in some other direction to the termina field.

Its not as much as nintendo says so(there is very little such things, lol, that maybe why link is so underrated) as the actual thing that happened.

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Have you read what this discussion is even about Gumachi?

Honestly, no. All I saw was crap about the moon exploding.

Next time, read what the posts are actually about before you try to post evidence to refute them.

Link is practically built for taking down guys like Dante.
Link wins the same way he wins against Sephiroth, Kratos, and anyone else. I get tired of typing it out.

Originally posted by Voyeur
First I need to establish some things it seems. One being, please go back and read each word of the original post I made.

Majora explodes. You see him in the video start to break apart and become no more and a burst of Light/Energy. The room that the final battle takes place is still physically in tact when Majora begins this, and while he is already fallen and broken into pieces from the Light. While the room is reacting physically by shaking, rumbling, pieces of the ceiling are falling down. The signs of an eruption, as the cliche silent 'boom' goes. Now you see the top of the moon start to break off into pieces, crumble, the same way the energy and Light affected Majora, it seems to have the energy and power now to destroy a physical existed moon that was brought out of orbit.

"and the moon that spelled doom for Clock Town will be no more."-Canon quote.

so the moon is 100% no more.

So there is what you see in the video right? And there is the quote. So, you see the moon physically start to be torn apart by that light so forth. Then later you see Link having to awake, meaning some sort of force was put on him to put him in that state. Be it the blast or that he hit the ground.

the moon did not explode. Or more or less not in the sense that you people think of explosions. Bombs, fireworks and shit. From there it is pretty simple to fill in the blanks and connect the dots. Even with out me having to shove physics down your guys' throats, I think you can tell what is going on. Watch the video again, and stop being narrow minded.

I never said that the moon was still there, i simply said that you have no proof that it exploded, which that quote does not prove. I dont really care if the moon was no more, just that you cant prove it exploded.

Your second paragraph is the exact same thing youve been doing this whole time, theories and speculation. Its not proof. Im not being narrow minded, your using your knowledge of "what could have happened" and claiming them as fact. Its simply that you do not get the definition of proof.

Originally posted by lootic
So how did you think the theories of nature was made, by watching only, lol, NO, its done by sometimes guessing with things that seems to fit in the puzzle. Tell me how to prove the big bang theory other than that it explains a lot of how the universe works or maybe even the evolution theroy, nope darwin didnt know there were genes but somehow these thories can predict some things.

We need to come to an agreement of what happened and there is no doubt the moon has a pocket universe since I cant see any green fields on top of the moon and inside the moon there could not be this infinite blue sky(Its night when you enter the moon also). so pocket universe no doubt. What happens exactly when majora dies is an intresting question. The pocket universe exploding is very likely since there is particles left after the destruction of the moon and link is not sent downwards to clock town but in some other direction to the termina field.

Its not as much as nintendo says so(there is very little such things, lol, that maybe why link is so underrated) as the actual thing that happened.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The biggest problem with debating for Link is Nintendo avoids saying things directly, so that they can retcon it later, just incase, and also because they know that the constant quest for knowledge keeps the fans interested. They also very rarely use cut scenes for anything except forwarding the plot. It's just part of their 'gameplay first' M.O. Still, they give us enough to work with. The moon WAS destroyed, that is clear, and Link was exposed to the same forces, whatever they were, the simplest explanation is an explosion. [And the simplest is usually the best.] It'd also be the least impressive for Link to survive.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Link is practically built for taking down guys like Dante.
Link wins the same way he wins against Sephiroth, Kratos, and anyone else. I get tired of typing it out.

An explosion being te simplest, least impressive answer, does not simplify the physics behind it =P And I never called anyone an idiot.

Voyeur goes into those rants on how things work, not because they are specifcly his own views, but to clarify how the views anyone else puts forward would work. IE, Terry suggested it evaporated in another thread[trying to debunk the feat.], and he[Voyeur] explained that evaporating a moon >>>>> exploding it.

He's a troll, too. Don't feed him.

Edit: for the purposes of debating something, it's usually best to go with the most likely answer, or the one that would be the least biased. In this case, explosion is the answer to both, though my personal opinion is not that it was an explosion. Link carly occupied the same space as a force capable of destroying the moon, to utterly ignore the feat is biased in favour of Dante, but to hype it up to it's maximum potential is biased in favour of Link, the most logical middle ground is to come to an agreement on the minimum forces which would be applied to Link, and destroy the moon. this doesn't kill the feat entirely, while weakening it's usefulness. In this case, Voyeur's bubble theory performs admirably. It's the easiest way to bust the moon, using the minimal force, as it assumes the moon as hllow. The force required to achieve this effect would still be enough to turn NYC into a crator, though.

There doesnt have to be an "answer" to it, it doesnt need to be solved, if nintendo wanted it to be an explosion, it would have been.

I know you didnt call me an idiot, i was just trying to imply that if me, someone who is not an idiot, can understand the difference between theories, speculation, and fact, then so can you. I dont really care what terry thought happened to the moon, it could have exploded, vanished, evaporated, teleported, etc. but could have are the key words, meaning we dont know, and its not fact.

Who, lllllink? because hes not really helping your side of the debate.

Voyeur's a troll.

For simplicity, LLLLLink can be called 5L.