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Originally posted by pr1983
jack, quit it.
handbooks are probably the most inaccurate reference for characters' abilities...

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strengthkills Senior Member

Originally posted by pr1983
jack, quit it.
handbooks are probably the most inaccurate reference for characters' abilities...

Thank you.

llagrok Restricted

Originally posted by pr1983
jack, quit it.
handbooks are probably the most inaccurate reference for characters' abilities...

Give me one example of the latest entry's inaccuracy.

pr1983 Hey Yo!

Originally posted by llagrok
Give me one example of the latest entry's inaccuracy.

are you serious?

for years the handbooks have been woeful in the depictions of marvel characters...

i don't have this years, what i do have is a few 2005 ones...

ok, the 2005 f4 issue...

it rates The Thing's intelligence at two, yet the Silver Surfer's at three...

while Franklin Richards is a FOUR.

just one example...

another, in the same issue, The Thing's fighting skills are a 5, yet in the Avengers book of the same year, Jessica Drew (former agent of Shield) is a 4... and yet in the previous years Daredevil one, his fighting skills were a 5...

those are accurate?

llagrok Restricted

Originally posted by pr1983
are you serious?
for years the handbooks have been woeful in the depictions of marvel characters...
i don't have this years, what i do have is a few 2005 ones...
ok, the 2005 f4 issue...
it rates The Thing's intelligence at two, yet the Silver Surfer's at three...
while Franklin Richards is a FOUR.
just one example...
another, in the same issue, The Thing's fighting skills are a 5, yet in the Avengers book of the same year, Jessica Drew (former agent of Shield) is a 4... and yet in the previous years Daredevil one, his fighting skills were a 5...
those are accurate?

My extraction was from the latest addition. Since there was nothing wrong with the parts about Sentry, the other inaccuracies are completely irrelevant.

pr1983 Hey Yo!

Originally posted by llagrok
My extraction was from the latest addition. Since there was nothing wrong with the parts about Sentry, the other inaccuracies are completely irrelevant.

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did you just say that as long as the sentry one was accurate, then by default all the others are accurate?

llagrok Restricted

Originally posted by pr1983
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did you just say that as long as the sentry one was accurate, then by default all the others are accurate?

No, I said that they didn't matter. Go read the Sentry entry, and tell me if there's anything wrong with them. I'm not using the handbook as a whole as an example here, I'm not using the stats either, which you claimed were at fault.

strengthkills Senior Member

Originally posted by llagrok
No, I said that they didn't matter. Go read the Sentry entry, and tell me if there's anything wrong with them. I'm not using the handbook as a whole as an example here, I'm not using the stats either, which you claimed were at fault.

Post Sentrys Bio.

llagrok Restricted

Originally posted by strengthkills
Post Sentrys Bio.

As you can see, it mentions how the energy Sentry's emits tends to render the Hulk docile. Thus, it is very different from Wonder Woman's lasso and Hulk being capable of ignoring that doesn't necessarily mean that he would be able to resist the effects of Wonder Woman's lasso.

pr1983 Hey Yo!

Originally posted by llagrok
No, I said that they didn't matter. Go read the Sentry entry, and tell me if there's anything wrong with them. I'm not using the handbook as a whole as an example here, I'm not using the stats either, which you claimed were at fault.

elaborate, for the love of god elaborate... what are you using then?

llagrok Restricted

Originally posted by pr1983
elaborate, for the love of god elaborate... what are you using then?

I was using the part about Sentry's energy calming the Hulk.

Some people claimed that Hulk would be able to resist the effects of Diana's lasso, simply because he resisted the Sentry's "calming effect". Here we see that Sentry's energy only affects the Hulk, which means that it's not comparable to her lasso.

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pr1983 Hey Yo!

Originally posted by llagrok
I was using the part about Sentry's energy calming the Hulk.
Some people claimed that Hulk would be able to resist the effects of Diana's lasso, simply because he resisted the Sentry's "calming effect". Here we see that Sentry's energy only affects the Hulk, which means that it's not comparable to her lasso.
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oh, right, i get you... its the handbook stats that are way off, the bios are bog standard so they're usually ok...

i wouldnt believe that it's comparable, nor would i believe that her lasso would have any calming effect on him...

i still think she could take him at least 5/10, probably more due to her speed...

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by pr1983
oh, right, i get you... its the handbook stats that are way off, the bios are bog standard so they're usually ok...
i wouldnt believe that it's comparable, nor would i believe that her lasso would have any calming effect on him...
i still think she could take him at least 5/10, probably more due to her speed...

The Lasso doesn't need to have any calming Effect. It's basically her telling him to sit still or turn back. Also if she Ties him up like she did amazo, what is he do to then? The only way to get out would be to turn to banner to losen the bonds.

llagrok Restricted

Originally posted by pr1983
oh, right, i get you... its the handbook stats that are way off, the bios are bog standard so they're usually ok...
i wouldnt believe that it's comparable, nor would i believe that her lasso would have any calming effect on him...
i still think she could take him at least 5/10, probably more due to her speed...

I just don't think that him resisting the F4's copy of the Sentry's aura is a feat that proves his calm-resistance capability xD

Diana's speed isn't comparable to anyone Hulk's fought.

pr1983 Hey Yo!

Originally posted by llagrok
I just don't think that him resisting the F4's copy of the Sentry's aura is a feat that proves his calm-resistance capability xD
Diana's speed isn't comparable to anyone Hulk's fought.

nah, it was a copy, and copies are always inferior...

in fairness, she's pretty fast...

strengthkills Senior Member

Originally posted by llagrok
I just don't think that him resisting the F4's copy of the Sentry's aura is a feat that proves his calm-resistance capability xD
Diana's speed isn't comparable to anyone Hulk's fought.

Your tune changed,now your arguing the copy isnt the same.

llagrok Restricted