Originally posted by Soljer
She IS more durable.Aegis for the win, let us not forget.
She is not more durable and her regeneration factor is terrible in comparison with Hulks'. Dont' be ridiculous. No way in hell would she withstand a full scream from Blackbolt. Her bracers aren't going to be a help here; Hulk will just grab her wrist like Superman did and snap her wrist like a twig.
She has an advantage in speed and combat skill, but not in strength, nor in durability.
Originally posted by Kutulu
She is not more durable and her regeneration factor is terrible in comparison with Hulks'. Dont' be ridiculous. No way in hell would she withstand a full scream from Blackbolt. Her bracers aren't going to be a help here; Hulk will just grab her wrist like Superman did and snap her wrist like a twig.She has an advantage in speed and combat skill, but not in strength, nor in durability.
An advantage in speed? Her speed is FAR, FAR, FAR, FAR, FAR, FAR above his. You can't even begin to compare them. She dwarfs every non-cosmic speedsters in the Marvel universe. She can easily gain a healing factor comparable to the Hulk's by doing her "tree thing"
You keep on mentioning how the Hulk studies his opponents on beforehand, do they get any prep? Does Hulk get access to a database where all the information on WW is stored? No. They get basic info about each other's powers and that's it. You also mention his shitty martial arts "skills" like they are relevant, which they are NOT. Given her speed, WW won't even need to employ her martial arts skills. Simple as that.
If the asteroid was twice the size of earth, Earth should've been obliterated. But hey, Hulk comics were never big on facts and logic. Nor were you it seems, as somehow you managed to miss the insane speed boost Hulk was given when attempting to destroy that asteroid. Do you think it would've been successful if he had to do it without any outside help? Of course not.
You don't seem to realize that the Hulk isn't invulnerable. She-Hulk was able to make him bleed and so was the Thing. If WW threw a thousand punches like that before he managed to heal, you think that he would've been able to withstand it? Hell, what's keeping her from tying him up like Amazo? Or do you suppose that the Hulk would be able to become angrier will entangled in her lasso 🙄
Originally posted by Kutulu
She is not more durable and her regeneration factor is terrible in comparison with Hulks'. Dont' be ridiculous. No way in hell would she withstand a full scream from Blackbolt. Her bracers aren't going to be a help here; Hulk will just grab her wrist like Superman did and snap her wrist like a twig.She has an advantage in speed and combat skill, but not in strength, nor in durability.
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Hulk's reactions are super sonic. Not hypersonic. Not subluminal. Supersonic.
Dianna's are super-luminal. He isn't grabbing her wrist.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlOh really,If I recall correctly didnt you say Thor vs Diana would be a perfect match cause they are deadset even in every category including strength,now how is it that Diana is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay stronger than WWH(even regular),even though every h2h tussle Thor and Hulk have had,has been a stalemate or in hulks favor.
She is stronger. And I'd say so far above his base that it would take him a LOOOOOOOOOONG time to get to her lvls. EVen then, He will never be as fast or as skilled. And let's not forget she can heal herself as good as he if she wishes. It's a power she rarely like to use but it is there.
Originally posted by strengthkills
I would also like to add in the fact that GREY hulk destroyed the asteroid 2x the size of earth with rockets whose speed was <<<<<<<<<Dianas,so we could say that since diana is able to fly at superluminal speed, none of her strenght feats are truly strength.
Cool feat.
For the rockets, anyways...
Originally posted by janus77he is insanely accurate - Bullseye like - with projectiles... so if WW was trying to outfox him, one swift - 20,000 mph? - boulder would take her down.
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Originally posted by Kutulu
Hulk is notorious for catching things thrown at him and using them on the attacker. I honestly don't feel that WW would be able to get the lasso around the Hulk.
If she can lasso Zoom, I'm sure she could lasso Hulk.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Well for one he has stomped out most of the major superhero teams singlehandedly, and they all had prep. He defeated the x-men all at the same time (showing resilience to telepathy, TK, and matter manipulation in the process far above what he's normally capable of), he defeated an upgraded Iron Man, he withstood BlackBolt's scream at point blank range, he withstood a mind barrage from Dr. Strange who developed the spell with 24 hrs prep time, he defeated the fantastic four combined (withstood Johnny's nova flame, destroyed Sue's forcefield in two hits, and blasted Reed Richard's prep), he smashed the Juggernaut into submission, he knocked out She-Hulk, smacked around Hercules, and we see an image of Sentry looking battered in a future release of WWH.As stated before, this is the strongest Hulk has ever been. His healing factor, speed, intelligence, cunning, strength, durability, telekinetic resistance, telepathic resistance, and mystical resistance, are all amplified exponentially above their normal levels. How often do you see people straight up resist Dr. Strange with prep? Dr. Strange's mind spells have even affected a weakened Galactus before, and WWH just shrugged it off like nothing.
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Originally posted by Kutulu
WWH can control his state of Banner or Hulk at will. That's one of the things different about him.
Why would that matter if he is touching Hestia's Lasso of Truth?
Originally posted by Kutulu
So you are telling me that WW could resist a full scale BlackBolt scream to the face like WWH could? A whisper which levelled mountains and a scream which literally rips electrons off of their atoms? What about beating up Hercules, you're telling me Wonder Woman is stronger than Hercules now too?You have already shown me that you didn't read the series, so please just stop while you are ahead, go to your comic book store, pick it up, then get back to the thread when you are done.
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Well, her bracelets have deflected sonic screams before.
Here is one : http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww171pg162pe.jpg
I know that isn't as powerful as Blackbolt's but her bracelets are supposed to be able to deflect ANY FORCE set against them.
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Wonder Woman has the strength of Gaea which is stronger than that of Hercules. http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlatitans16bz.jpg
Originally posted by KutuluSecondly Hulk is resilient to things such as sleep attacks, mind effects, and transmutation. Her "sleep touch" would make him drowsy and that's it. People have tried attacks like that on him before and it didn't work in his current incarnation.
Her "sleep touch" is Morpheus's touch. Morpheus is The God of Dreams.
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Folks, he is NOT resisting her Lasso. No GOD NOR MORTAL can break it.
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Originally posted by llagrok
Dawsey's good at backing up his stuff 🙂
Thanks, but it is easy for me to back up Wonder Woman . I made her respect thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t362733.html
And I am one of her biggest Fan boys.
It would take something comparable to the full power of Darkseid's OE to break the lasso.
And I'm in doubt that even that would work.
as for the Aegis, nothing has broken that shield. NOTHING.
Realistically, Wondy has this in the bag. 😎
Edit: And cheers to Dawsey for an excellent respect thread. 👆 I like the WWH story so far, but there's a limit to what he can do.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestthere is a limit to what most characters can do. this is stating of the obvious. his limit is up there though. wait and see how it ends before u crown ww the winner here. with what i have seen wwhulk crushes her.
It would take something comparable to the full power of Darkseid's OE to break the lasso.And I'm in doubt that even that would work.
as for the Aegis, nothing has broken that shield. NOTHING.
Realistically, Wondy has this in the bag. 😎
Edit: And cheers to Dawsey for an excellent respect thread. 👆 I like the WWH story so far, but there's a limit to what he can do.
Originally posted by dawsey28
I guess people have no idea how Wonder Woman's lasso works.http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww2147vszoom5qa.jpg
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http://img42.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warofthegods04376lj.jpgor what her bracelets are capable of deflecting:
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Originally posted by dawsey28
http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlatitans3wwasteroid1oi.jpgIf she can lasso Zoom, I'm sure she could lasso Hulk.
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http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww212blindvsjla76tq.jpgWhy would that matter if he is touching Hestia's Lasso of Truth?
Well, her bracelets have deflected sonic screams before.
Here is one : http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww171pg162pe.jpgI know that isn't as powerful as Blackbolt's but her bracelets are supposed to be able to deflect ANY FORCE set against them.
http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wwwitchfirenekron38ev.jpgWonder Woman has the strength of Gaea which is stronger than that of Hercules. http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlatitans16bz.jpg
Her "sleep touch" is Morpheus's touch. Morpheus is The God of Dreams.
http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww2013tv.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=172101fo.jpgFolks, he is NOT resisting her Lasso. No GOD NOR MORTAL can break it.
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