Doctor Manhattan vs Superman, Thor, Hal Jordan and Silver Surfer

Started by Kris Blaze6 pages
Originally posted by Starscream M
reported. you seem to have a lot of pent-up anger issues kris, I'll put you on ignore now. 😎

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Starscream M
atoms are atoms. the atoms that make up a human are the same atoms that make up steel or diamonds. being able to effect the bonding at the atomic level removes any effect durability has.

Manhattan could just as easily disassemble a tank as he could human flesh. His power effects you on the atomic level, it doesn't matter how durable you are. He is breaking down the bonds holding your atoms, he isn't physically attacking you...therefore durability doesn't influence his attack. Transmuting a piece of steel is no easier or harder than transmuting flesh, even though steel is alot more durable.

remember what the comedian said to manhattan when he shot the preggo: you could've turned my bullet to dust before it hit or something like that

Display of yet more ignorance. Being able to effect the molecular bonding of humans atoms in no way makes u able to effect that of beings with superhuman durability. Thats because these beings have a far more dense molecular structure as well as far tougher molecular bonding. How the hell do u think they became more durable?. Why do u think that Loki a being who has matter manip feats on a level far higher than Manhattan, needed to be amped by sjyfather level power in order to transmute thor? further though u have done ur best to ignore it, Both thor and surfer have SUPERIOR molecular control to Manhattan (surfer is so far above him its not even funny) coupled with their resistance to molecular manip. so ur ridiculous trategy has absolutely no chance of working.

Manhattan dissasembling a tank in no way indicates he can affect Thor or surfer as both are far tougher at the molecular level than a mere tank as well as both having high level resistance to molecular manip and superior molecular control.

remember what the comedian said to manhattan when he shot the preggo: you could've turned my bullet to dust before it hit or something like that

Interesting, but has no relevance here unfortunately.

Surfer

Originally posted by roughrider
Not an easy win for the team. Manhattan can make multiple versions of himself, grow them to any size he wants (see his giant forms taking out Vietnam or confronting Ozymandias), and can use his pre-cog sense to predict what any of them are going to do. There doesn't seem to be limits to how powerful he can make himself.
Of the team, Hal Jordan would be the first to fall. Silver Surfer would be the trickiest opponent, but none are able to solo him.
good points...esp. the precog

manhattan's precog would make it much harder for the team to pull something over him as he would likely know about their tactics much in advance.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Both thor and surfer have SUPERIOR molecular control to Manhattan (surfer is so far above him its not even funny)
really?! thor has superior molecular control than Manhattan?? wow...just wow.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so you think superman, thor, hal or surfer would barely feel being completely diassembled on the molecular level? that their consciousness could even survive being outside of their bodies...unless somehow you thought that was just electricity he got blasted with, lulz.

Surfer is almost invincible on the astral plane. U know what that means right? his consciousness is outside of his freaking body. But be my guest keep showing absolute ignorance of all characters and making fallacious claims.

Originally posted by Starscream M
apart from Surfer, who I do believe is a threat to manhattan, how is bringing up apoc, thanos or jonn relevant to a thread that doesn't include them?
I was educating you to the fact that not all physicality's are not created equal. while human beings might be susceptible, these dude had in their POWERSET to be resistant to such an attack.

so you think superman, thor, hal or surfer would barely feel being completely dissembled on the molecular level? that their consciousness could even survive being outside of their bodies...unless somehow you thought that was just electricity he got blasted with, lulz.

You see that's the beauty of it!!!
Surfer not going to get hit!! And if he Chooses to, whats stopping him from redirecting it or just absorbing it with his board?

Thor should be able to deflect such a blast with minor difficulties.

Hal is a beast his shields are one of the best there is.

Superman is.....................Super f-ing Man!!!

Originally posted by Starscream M
really?! thor has superior molecular control than Manhattan?? wow...just wow.

Bring up his feats or shut up.

What does he have comparable to evolving a planet? Or reversing the energy polarities of hyperion in order to transform him into an ant?

Oh yeah its as i suspected, he has nothing even close.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Surfer is almost invincible on the astral plane. U know what that means right? [B]his consciousness is outside of his freaking body. But be my guest keep showing absolute ignorance of all characters and making fallacious claims. [/B]
yes, but even in the astral plane, surfer's physical body still exists.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Bring up his feats or shut up.

What does he have comparable to evolving a planet? Or reversing the energy polarities of hyperion in order to transform him into an ant?

Oh yeah its as i suspected, he has nothing even close.

what issues did thor do those things?

Originally posted by Hitman911
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Surfer not going to get hit!! And if he Chooses to, whats stopping him from redirecting it or just absorbing it with his board?

Thor should be able to deflect such a blast with minor difficulties.

Hal is a beast his shields are one of the best there is.

What blast? Do you know how manhattan's powers work? he doesn't 'blast' people.

Seriously each one would probably take DM down. With the exception of maybe Superman but then even he has feats of messing with pure energy based beings so it isn't outside the question.

Nothing DM could do would effect these guys they've all seen everything he has, and have dealt with it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yes, but even in the astral plane, surfer's physical body still exists.

U said that surfer couldnt survive with his consciousness outside his body. Which is just false. Manhattan has no way of harming surfers body at all anyways.

Originally posted by Starscream M
What blast? Do you know how manhattan's powers work? he doesn't 'blast' people.
Im bringing up the fact that DM HAD to reassemble himself. Switch DM with any member of this team and he would solo the Watchmen planet with ease. Without being atomized and having to reform.

spite

Originally posted by Starscream M
what issues did thor do those things?

Surfer evolved a planet in SS v3 104 and thor turned hyperion to the size of an ant in Avengers #70

Originally posted by Starscream M
I definitely see surfer as a threat

like you said, manhattan doesn't have any speed feats...although he can see events in the future as how they'll arise (remember how he knew exactly the girl was gonna leave crying)

Surfer can also do this. And his ability to see in the future is not always clear as evidenced by Ozy's ability to trick him.

Plus his cosmic awareness is = to DM's precog.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Surfer evolved a planet in SS v3 104 and thor turned hyperion to the size of an ant in Avengers #70
I was showing shock at you implying Thor had greater matter manipulation than Manhattan, why would you bring examples of Surfer's ability?! 😕

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Who's getting owned, SON?

i'm not talking about that fight..i was talking about the one in SI..the women super skrull..the odinforce thor 😐

Originally posted by Starscream M
I was showing shock at you implying Thor had greater matter manipulation than Manhattan, why would you bring examples of Surfer's ability?! 😕

The post of mine u quoted had me say tha BOTH surfer and thor had superior molecular manip abilities. So i mentioned feats from both of them to prove such. Obviously u have nothing to counter it as manhattan has no feats on that level