Doctor Manhattan vs Superman, Thor, Hal Jordan and Silver Surfer

Started by Starscream M6 pages

Originally posted by Naija boy
The post of mine u quoted had me say tha BOTH surfer and thor had superior molecular manip abilities. So i mentioned feats from both of them to prove such. Obviously u have nothing to counter it as manhattan has no feats on that level
so thor turning something to the size of an ant shows he has more matter transmuting capabilities than someone who can:

become intangible at will
disassemble any living thing
break down elements down to atoms
increase or decrease in size
cause things to explode by thought alone
build complex machinery from martian dust
teleport self and others with a thought

ok then.

Why is there bashing/flaming in this thread? Some of you have been in the reports too much lately. Raoul has spoken to a few posters this week already. Are people looking for warnings or bans?

Originally posted by Starscream M
so thor turning something to the size of an ant shows he has more matter transmuting capabilities than someone who can:

become intangible at will
disassemble any living thing
break down elements down to atoms
increase or decrease in size
cause things to explode by thought alone
build complex machinery from martian dust
teleport self and others with a thought

ok then.

You DO know these feats aren't all that impressive?

Originally posted by Slaanesh
i'm not talking about that fight..i was talking about the one in SI..the women super skrull..the odinforce thor 😐

Not sure what comic you read. In the one I read, she died.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
You DO know these feats aren't all that impressive?
I was responding to someone who claimed thor is a better matter manipulator than Manhattan.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so thor turning Something to the size of an ant shows he has more matter transmuting capabilities than someone who can:

become intangible at will
disassemble any living thing
break down elements down to atoms
increase or decrease in size
cause things to explode by thought alone
build complex machinery from martian dust
teleport self and others with a thought

ok then.

That "Something"(Hyperion) your referring to would solo the Watchmen 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Hitman911
That "Something"(Hyperion) your referring to would solo the Watchmen 😮‍💨
the watchmen isn't impressive in power aside from Manhattan.

captain america could take out the watchmen prob.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so thor turning something to the size of an ant shows he has more matter transmuting capabilities than someone who can:

become intangible at will
disassemble any living thing
break down elements down to atoms
increase or decrease in size
cause things to explode by thought alone
build complex machinery from martian dust
teleport self and others with a thought

ok then.

Becoming intangible at will is something superman can do. And he doesnt even have matter manip capabilities.

Dissasembling human beings doesnt at all show he is superior to thor in matter manip. Thor altered the molecules of Hyperion a superbeing with far higher molecular density and bonding to that of a mere human being

Being able to increase or decrease ur own size while impressive is only relevant to what he can do to himself. Similar to MM who can shapshift as well but has no actual molecular manip

Him causing human beings to explode through dissasembling their atoms is a nice feat but shows nothing in the way of affecting beings with resistance to it.

What complex machinery did he build. That would perhaps be his most impressive feat. still nothing to spectacular

Teleportation doesnt indicate matter manip. Thor can teleport himself and others as well

In response to the few fairly impressive feats Manhattan does have, Thor has turned blacknight intangible and invisible, can manipulate gravity,manipulate antimatter,and even transmuted absorbing man to helium. Once again clearly superior to anything manhattan has achieved.

Originally posted by Badabing
Why is there bashing/flaming in this thread? Some of you have been in the reports too much lately. Raoul has spoken to a few posters this week already. Are people looking for warnings or bans?

Don't worry Bada, I'll talk to MB under 4 eyes.

Surfer soloes.

Originally posted by Starscream M
1. when has surfer easily read people's minds and predicted their intentions?

2. has surfer ever turned sand or other simple elements into complex structures?

3. surfer blows things up by blasting them. Dr. Manhattan just thinks something blown up, and that thing will be blown up. Which do you think is more effective, a blast that is avoidable, or someone merely thinking, which isn't.

4. has surfer ever created full duplicates of himself like Dr. M?

5. can surfer bfr someone with a mere thought in the blink of a second?

6. can surfer instanteounsly reform if his body is destroyed into atoms?

1. surfer has entered and influenced the minds of evry being on earth simultaneously as well as used telepathy from galaxies away Far superior to Dr Manhattan

2. Surfer has created entire buildings thin air. then there was the feat were he manipulated the DNA of the head deviants and trasnmuted him from a cloud into a full blown deviant. Then there is also him evolving a planet by billions of years. Not to mention him transmuting legacy and the nega bands into a reflection on his surfboard. Far superior to anything from manhattan.

3. Yes surfer caused a bunch of high tech weapons to simply explode when he got angry in In Thy Name. Seen below. He has also shown to be able to deactivate high tech ships with just a thought.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InThyName2017.jpg

4.
4. Yes, surfer has created doubles of himself before.

5.Surfer has BFred people thru time and dimensions. He has shown vast teleportational abilities

6. Surfer reformed his body from pieces when fighting against the unilord.

Originally posted by Starscream M
1. when has surfer easily read people's minds and predicted their intentions?

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1928/silversurfer199713415xs0.jpg

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9427/silversurferv401019eg6.jpg

Originally posted by Starscream M
2. has surfer ever turned sand or other simple elements into complex structures?

Sand no, raw energy yes
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3217/fantasticfourv105707oy9.jpg

Originally posted by Starscream M
3. surfer blows things up by blasting them. Dr. Manhattan just thinks something blown up, and that thing will be blown up. Which do you think is more effective, a blast that is avoidable, or someone merely thinking, which isn't.

Now you're just talking about style. If Surfer can manipulate energy from a distance, he can blow things up(he just doesn't).

Originally posted by Starscream M
4. has surfer ever created full duplicates of himself like Dr. M?

From scratch no. From statues, yes.

Originally posted by Starscream M
5. can surfer bfr someone with a mere thought in the blink of a second?

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/fantasticfour076-19.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/fantasticfour076-20.jpg

Originally posted by Starscream M
6. can surfer instanteounsly reform if his body is destroyed into atoms?

Surfer's never encountered an attack that blasted him into atoms, in what way does that make Dr. M more durable?

Originally posted by darthgoober
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Surfer's never encountered an attack that blasted him into atoms, in what way does that make Dr. M more durable?

nice scans goober.

the fact that dr. m can reform from being atomized doesn't make him more durable, but it does make him nigh impossible to beat physically.

A side note about Dr. M's "pre-cog" since it's been brought up:

While it's true that Doc can see acts before they happen, he is powerless to stop them from happening. He sees the strings, but cannot act on them. Thus, for example, even if Doc could see Surfer blasting him, he still wouldn't be able to dodge it.

His pre-cog is a non-factor here. And team two stomps.

Originally posted by Harbinger
A side note about Dr. M's "pre-cog" since it's been brought up:

While it's true that Doc can see acts before they happen, he is powerless to stop them from happening. He sees the strings, but cannot act on them. Thus, for example, even if Doc could see Surfer blasting him, he still wouldn't be able to dodge it.

His pre-cog is a non-factor here. And team two stomps.

is that really true...that he can't stop them from happening

I feel more like he doesn't care to stop it from happening, not that he can't stop it from happening

😆

Lol at this thread and idiocy of some of the posts.

Originally posted by Starscream M
is that really true...that he can't stop them from happening

I feel more like he doesn't care to stop it from happening, not that he can't stop it from happening

Unfortunately most of us have an unfair advantage against you.

We have actually read the comic.

😂

o lawd

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Unfortunately most of us have an unfair advantage against you.

We have actually read the comic.

😆

Originally posted by Starscream M
is that really true...that he can't stop them from happening

I feel more like he doesn't care to stop it from happening, not that he can't stop it from happening

lawl

He's "a puppet that sees the strings".

He's still just a puppet.