Originally posted by Starscream M
yep good pointout of pure durability (meaning without factoring HF), Colossus is the MOST durable being on marvel earth besides classic juggernaut
Thor, Silver Surfer, Gladiator (When not jobbing) etc. can withstand much more than what Colossus can.
Same goes for Hercules when he isn't being toned down but to a lesser degree.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor, Silver Surfer, Gladiator (When not jobbing) etc. can withstand much more than what Colossus can.Same goes for Hercules when he isn't being toned down but to a lesser degree.
Well to be fair, they DID say Marvel Earth. SS and Glad aren't in Earth atm.
And I haven't seen any solid feats about Herc and Thor's durability against piercing attacks that outshines that of Colossus'. Their durability against blunt/energy/force/impact attacks are easily better, tho.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Well to be fair, they DID say Marvel Earth. SS and Glad aren't in Earth atm.And I haven't seen any solid feats about Herc and Thor's durability against piercing attacks that outshines that of Colossus'. Their durability against blunt/energy/force/impact attacks are easily better, tho.
Well, they have been on Earth a great deal.
What do you mean solid feats?
Taking heavy artillery etc. unharmed?
That hasn't been a problem for say Thor.
Thor hasn't been pierced through conventional weaponry etc.
I doubt he has been pierced more than a few times. I can only think of one or so moments. The time with Desak who used his weapons to attack Thor. Of course that was Desak.
There is no real way to rate this but based of overall durability feats, they trump Colossus rather extremely.
Also the dude, said out of pure durability Colossus is the most durable on Earth next to the Juggernaut and I know that isn't true.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well, they have been on Earth a great deal.What do you mean solid feats?
Taking heavy artillery etc. unharmed?
That hasn't been a problem for say Thor.
Thor hasn't been pierced through conventional weaponry etc.
I doubt he has been pierced more than a few times. I can only think of one or so moments. The time with Desak who used his weapons to attack Thor. Of course that was Desak.
There is no real way to rate this but based of overall durability feats, they trump Colossus rather extremely.
Also the dude, said out of pure durability Colossus is the most durable on Earth next to the Juggernaut and I know that isn't true.
Well, I agree with you dude. Colossus is high up there but nowhere is he the second most durable being in Marvel Earth.
They fail to mention: Sentry, Ultron, Cyber and perhaps many others.
But in terms of Thor or Herc's durability against piercing attacks.... artillery, tank shells, bullets, missles are not piercing weapons but blunt/impact/heat/energy based damage (unless you use armor-piercing bullets/shells). And I mentioned that Thor and Herc easily has the advantage in ALL of these durability-wise (Hulk, too). 'Cept that in terms of piercing attacks (Wolvie's claws, swords, daggers, spears, etc.), I haven't seen all that many high end feats from Thor (w/o his armor) or Herc...
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Well, I agree with you dude. Colossus is high up there but nowhere is he the second most durable being in Marvel Earth.They fail to mention: Sentry, Ultron, Cyber and perhaps many others.
But in terms of Thor or Herc's durability against piercing attacks.... artillery, tank shells, bullets, missles are not piercing weapons but blunt/impact/heat/energy based damage (unless you use armor-piercing bullets/shells). And I mentioned that Thor and Herc easily has the advantage in ALL of these durability-wise (Hulk, too). 'Cept that in terms of piercing attacks (Wolvie's claws, swords, daggers, spears, etc.), I haven't seen all that many high end feats from Thor (w/o his armor) or Herc...
Well Wolverine's claws are Adamantium and I do believe Adamantium can cut Thor, Superman etc. if enough physical force is put behind it.
Things like spears, daggers etc. are useless against Thor just as they would be against Superman.
I mean, he took the Cosmic Stormbreaker axe to the chest and was unharmed I believe.
That alone should automatically place him steps above Colossus, penetration wise.
I haven't seen anything of conventional power ever penetrate Thor, be it, in or out of his armor. I can only think of probably 2 occasions where Thor has ever been penetrated by anything. I could be forgetting some issues but I don't think I am.
Thor is leagues above Colossus on all levels of durability. For some reason people assume that Thor is like Wonder Woman and can be hurt by bullets etc. Those are nothing to him.
Originally posted by Mindset
Except it isn't a good indicator of the durability to piercing damage since it is pretty much the sharpest/strongest weapon in Marvel...They could be able to resist damage from the other weapons and still be hurt by his claws.
Well, I was simply pointing them out less as a means of measurement but a means of describing what kind of attacks may fall into that category.
Also, ppl stated many times that Colossus has managed to shrug off Wolvie's claws...
Originally posted by D_Dude1210And how many scans have they posted along with these statements?
Well, I was simply pointing them out less as a means of measurement but a means of describing what kind of attacks may fall into that category.Also, ppl stated many times that Colossus has managed to shrug off Wolvie's claws...
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Well, I was simply pointing them out less as a means of measurement but a means of describing what kind of attacks may fall into that category.Also, ppl stated many times that Colossus has managed to shrug off Wolvie's claws...
When has Colossus shrugged of Wolverine's claws?
Originally posted by Mindset
And how many scans have they posted along with these statements?
Well, it WAS in the respect thread. Or at least listed there. The scanz are goooonez, tho.
Again, mentioned it less as a means of measurement but a means of describing what kind of attacks may fall into that category.
Originally posted by Starscream Mcolossus doesn't necessarily bleed like a normal person does in armour form.
I'm pretty sure Thor have bled much more than Colosuss ever has.
he did almost die once when he was frozen to -200 or so degrees then quickly heated up to approximately 1000 degrees by pyro. his outer body cracked and he had to be healed by the morlock named...healer.
Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm pretty sure Thor have bled much more than Colosuss ever has.
While Colossus gets layed out by beings like Juggernaut, Thor has gotten attacked by Odin, Thanos, Silver Surfer, etc. in the past and hasn't bleed.
He has been hit by planet destroying blasts, etc. and hasn't bleed if I recalled. He has been hit by Banner less Hulk multiple times and hasn't bleed.
While high and low temperatures have gotten the best of Peter, Thor has been able to survive in the core of the Sun unharmed, in space etc.
Something that could harm Thor in any significant way can most likely kill Colossus simply enough.
Are you honestly trying to compare the two physically?
Colossus probably can't even bleed as a we normally perceive as his body tissue becomes organic steel does it not?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusyes Colossus is far more durable than thor in terms of pierce damage
While Colossus gets layed out by beings like Juggernaut, Thor has gotten attacked by Odin, Thanos, Silver Surfer, etc. in the past and hasn't bleed.He has been hit by planet destroying blasts, etc. and hasn't bleed if I recalled. He has been hit by Banner less Hulk multiple times and hasn't bleed.
Something that could make Thor bleed, would be able to take Colossus' head off.
Are you honestly trying to compare the two physically?
It's almost as bad as the time you said Juggernaut is more durable than a Cosmic Being like Galactus.
the fact that you would even debate that is laughable
you're a joke
Originally posted by Starscream M
yes Colossus is far more durable than thor in terms of pierce damagethe fact that you would even debate that is laughable
you're a joke
I'm a joke.
What are you basing that on?
When has Colossus taken something that Thor could not?
Why do you act as this is some sort of fact?
When has Colossus taken attacks that would clearly cut right through Thor, or when has Thor been severely damage by attacks that would clearly not harm Colossus?
There has been no such showings. Based on past experience, Thor is extremely superior to Colossus in practically every way.
I'm a joke?
Who was the one who said Juggernaut is more durable than Galactus, a cosmic entity who doesn't even have a real pure physical body as we perceive?
Oh that's right, it was you....
😆
