Sephiroth vs Link

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Negative, the direction is not decided until the loop is tugged and the whip is cracked, then Link has less than a second to react. It's suprisingly easy for someone with skill to keep a whip in motion, considering Majora's a supernatural being and the whips were his prehensile arms possessed of super strength, moreso.

Can we move on to something else? I'm tired of repeating myself, you've tried a couple times to straw man this feat and it hasn't worked, pick something else to discuss.

The loop being tugged is by the arm snapping back. And if you observe the direction of the arm snapping back, you can anticipate where the tip is aiming for.

He can keep it in motion but the only time it breaks the sound barrier is when he snaps his arm back which can be anticipated.

Okay, lets move on to something else. What would Link do to Sephiroth if they fought?

Negative.. [The below is disputing your assertion of a typical bullet moving at over 100 mps]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projectile#Typical_projectile_speeds

"rifle bullet 4.5 mm 150 m/s 492 ft/s 336 mph 11 kJ/kg
air gun pellet (conventional maximum) 244 m/s 800 ft/s 545 mph 29.8 kJ/kg
9x19 mm (bullet of a pistol) 340 m/s 1116 ft/s 761 mph 58 kJ/kg
"

I'll debate more later, g2g chill with the little brother.

what the FVck does a bullet and a whip have to do with this debate?
get back on track people.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That is entirely different than what the sword does, it prevents things like curses ala ganondorf's/Zant's wolfening, and essentially is a plot device to ensure there actually is a fight.

Link did not have the master sword to fight Majora, he had the Kokiri sword/razor sword/Gilded sword, basicly different stages of the same sword.

furthermore: Zelda games never have had combat cut scenes, particularly in the n64 era when the few short cutscenes used scripted gameplay, essentially Link's model moved without the player touching his controller. So you're assertign if in one of these cut scenes Link dodged exactly as he woudl outside one, it'd be more valid?

To assume that MAJORA's whips are anything less than beyond what any human could accomplish with a bullwhip is rediculous.

Well you said in the other thread that it can likely stop Kains TK, which is a physical force, just like the force of the whip.

Is that the only weapon he had.

That is no excuse, them not having cutscenes simply means theres less real evidence and proof to use in a debate. The gameplay itself and what happesn within are all based around balacne ,what the player can react to and whats fair. If Link had a cutscene of doging these whips, it would be a valid feat.

Ime not assuming that either.....why did you say that?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Well you said in the other thread that it can likely stop Kains TK, which is a physical force, just like the force of the whip.

Is that the [b]only weapon he had.

That is no excuse, them not having cutscenes simply means theres less real evidence and proof to use in a debate. The gameplay itself and what happesn within are all based around balacne ,what the player can react to and whats fair. If Link had a cutscene of doging these whips, it would be a valid feat.

Ime not assuming that either.....why did you say that? [/B]

but basically BT, it's a dodge or die situation for link.

no we dont have to assume that, thats the only way the player can think of accomplishing it, what Majora does in the gameplay may not have been what he would do if he was not part of a scripted environment. For all we know Link could have made a diffrent movement, a slide, got behind the guy, w/e an endless number of actions a real link could do outside the boundaries of a game.

We just cant assume he really did keep dodging those whips, and from what ive been hearing ,Link has apprently pretty good durability as well, and many types of Shield, perhaps he just survived the onslaught in a real battle, thing is, we dont know, we cant assume such a thing.

No way Link could connect a hit with Seph, enless he's extremely good with light arrows, and aiming.

Originally posted by Burning thought
no we dont have to assume that, thats the only way the player can think of accomplishing it, what Majora does in the gameplay may not have been what he would do if he was not part of a scripted environment. For all we know Link could have made a diffrent movement, a slide, got behind the guy, w/e an endless number of actions a [b]real link could do outside the boundaries of a game.

We just cant assume he really did keep dodging those whips, and from what ive been hearing ,Link has apprently pretty good durability as well, and many types of Shield, perhaps he just survived the onslaught in a real battle, thing is, we dont know, we cant assume such a thing. [/B]

He also has a shield, and getting hit a few times by that whip isn't going to kill Link is it?

And plus like ive said before, avoiding a whip, isn't the same as dodging the speed of sound. (which he's trying to claim Link can dodge the speed of sound)

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Negative.. [The below is disputing your assertion of a typical bullet moving at over 100 mps]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projectile#Typical_projectile_speeds

"rifle bullet 4.5 mm 150 m/s 492 ft/s 336 mph 11 kJ/kg
air gun pellet (conventional maximum) 244 m/s 800 ft/s 545 mph 29.8 kJ/kg
9x19 mm (bullet of a pistol) 340 m/s 1116 ft/s 761 mph 58 kJ/kg
"

I'll debate more later, g2g chill with the little brother.

Strange,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(speed)#Example_speeds_in_m.2Fs

says typical rifle bullet moves at 1,000 m/s

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/MariaPereyra.shtml

Says about 1000+ m/s

Originally posted by MR_GRUUVE
No way Link could connect a hit with Seph, enless he's extremely good with light arrows, and aiming.

can sephiroth dodge at the speed of sound?

Originally posted by Terryc250
He also has a shield, and getting hit a few times by that whip isn't going to kill Link is it?

And plus like ive said before, avoiding a whip, isn't the same as dodging the speed of sound. (which he's trying to claim Link can dodge the speed of sound)

Strange,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(speed)#Example_speeds_in_m.2Fs

says typical rifle bullet moves at 1,000 m/s

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/MariaPereyra.shtml

Says about 1000+ m/s

Far slower, inferior characters in FF7 dodge bullets like nothing, light arrows have no chance of hitting Sephiroth.

Originally posted by Phanteros
can sephiroth dodge at the speed of sound?

Easily, Zack who became a superhuman SOLDIER from being infused with some of Sephiroth/Jenova cells, just with some of the cells infused in his body, he was capable of dodging mutiple Machine Guns, all of them firing at him, he dodged them all with ease, a single bullet of a machine gun travels at 2058 mph.

Zack was easily dispatched by Sephiroth, by Sephiroths weakest form too.

BTW, this is Sephiroth from AC, the strongest form of his.

yeah, remember that video game guys? Advent Children. Such a good game. Had some really long cut scenes though.

Originally posted by Voyeur
yeah, remember that video game guys? Advent Children. Such a good game. Had some really long cut scenes though.

Aww, and yet the mods allow it, aww, need a tissue?

Originally posted by Peach
The forum rules disagree with you there, sorry to say. Main game is the only thing allowable unless stated otherwise by the OP.

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
I don't even see how Link could win. He is slower, weaker, and the only good thing he has is a damn light arrow, wow, whoopie.

The first thing you have to think about with Link is that you have to combine all the different Links together, along with all their weapons, equipment, and abilities.

When you do this you have a person, with the power of the Gods at his disposal, a myriad of weapons and equipment including, but not limited to, tunics and magic armor which make him practically invincible, several bottles filled with fairies which will revive him when he dies, or Potions which will heal him and/or replenish his magical capabilities, a clock that has the ability to freeze his foes, several masks, one of which makes him an unstopable juggernaut of immense power.

Link Wins

Actually, any single Link wins without combining them, combining them is spite..

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Oh no, Peach changed her mind, crybaby Oh well, Sephiroth still walks through the park in this fight with little to no problem.