Sephiroth vs Link

My favorite reasons Sephiroth loses:

1) Link is built to destroy evil.
2) Link is incredibly powerful.
3) Sephiroth is retarded.

1 is true because of the Master Sword. It prevents any kind of evil from touching Link. If it didn't Link would be no match for Ganondorf, who by the way is a thousand times more powerful than Sephiroth could ever hope to be.

As for number 2, ShinTwist has done math that proves Link can throw a stone that (I think) he gave a mass of 100g at about 1000 miles per second. He's also done calculations that should prove Sephiroth doesn't even have enough strength to hurt Link. Don't quote me on exact numbers, I haven't been on this thread in a while.

3 is just something I like to say. Sephiroth could have beaten Cloud, but he didn't because he decided to toy with Cloud. If Cloud is the only thing standing between you and what you want, and you could kill him but don't and end up getting killed for it, you're pretty retarded. Especially since Cloud has defeated Sephiroth more than just once.

1. link himself is not designed to destroy evil its like you said the mastersword.

2.ok what has given you any hint that link is that strong? yeah he is strong for a normal human but he has not shown to be anything near sephiroth, and why do you say that sephiroth cant hurt link? link is mortal has a mortal body so sephiroth can and would kill link

3. i agree with this to an extent, sephiroth is not "retarded" he is just increadibly proud, refuses to beleive that cloud is stronger than him(which he isnt)so he refuses to beleive that cloud can kill him. and to be fair when cloud killed him at the end of ff7 sephiroth was holding back Holy a spell that is designed to protect the earth from any kind of distaster so that would severely weaken him. and the first time he was "killed" was simply a fluke cloud got him off guard while he was looking lustfully at his "mother"

@ Niduin: You must be crazy to assume Sephiroth is stronger? Link has canonicly thrown a stone weighing atleast 1000 tons.

LOL....HAHAHAHA. are you kidding you really think that sephiroth is not that strong? and what stone are you talking about? and are you sure its canon and not pis? you do realize that link is more on the lines of a cartoon so something like steel boots would account for him moving somehting really heavy.

sephiroth was holding back a power that was meant to destroy a meteor that would have destroyed the planet with his MIND!!!!, while fighting 6+ people, thats way more power than 1000 tons. it has been stated that he is the most powerful being in the ff7verse and the weapons each are capable of destroying citys with single attacks. honestly not even thinking about sephiroth even fighting link what would link do to that to kill it?

So many ridiculous fanboy assumptons about Sephiroth, the power of Holy has never had any baring on its actual force or difficulty of holding, it could have been easy to hold for all you know, its not physical and its actual movement strength is also unkown. The ONLY REASON Sephiroth is the most powerful being in the FF universe is because his negative lifestream and control over lifestream would defeat anything in FF, because it is also all made up of lifestream. If this were not the case then the weapons would completly wipe out Sephiroth.

wow im sorry but you are just wrong, first off of course holy is physical are you kidding me? how else could it destroy something else physical? what else would it be? and even if its not physical it is something to protect the earth from anything so it would not be something easy to fight back.

and as for the negative lifestream.....where did you ever hear that thats the only reason he is the strongest? being able to do that is one of the things he can do because he is so strong, are you frikin kidding me? ok so nightmare vincent defeated one of the weapons, and we all know that vincent is weaker than sephiroth that is enough proof right there. dont say something is because im a fanboy when what you are saying is jsut because your an anti-fanboy

Magical or energy in nature, the actual wave/orb blast that consists of holy obviously isnt like a lump of steel or metal, or a lump of anything, its weight is unkown and therefore its force.

Thats the only way he can be the strongest by actual abilities, his speed, strength and durability are by feats (or the lack of feats) far below said weapons and characters, Sephiroth has shown very little actual power beyond his negative lifestream, to date there is nothing else I can think of that could defeat the weapons other than the negative lifestream, his sword, speed and durability are not enough to defeat their like.

ok so it has unknown weight....sorry that proves nothing, it is energy with the "force" to destroy meteor hmmmmmm

so what if he doesnt have FEATS to back up what has been officially stated other than the fact that he is stronger than the next strongest character in the game...oh wait he does have feats. and the only reason he doesnt have the "feats" that you are talking about is cuz he is so much stronger than EVERYONE that he doesnt need to do anything to beet then so he doesnt, in the ff7 verse he has never used his full potential not once. and yes his sword would be enough to kill a weapon

Originally posted by niduin
ok so it has unknown weight....sorry that proves nothing, it is energy with the "force" to destroy meteor hmmmmmm

so what if he doesnt have FEATS to back up what has been officially stated other than the fact that he is stronger than the next strongest character in the game...oh wait he does have feats. and the only reason he doesnt have the "feats" that you are talking about is cuz he is so much stronger than EVERYONE that he doesnt need to do anything to beet then so he doesnt, in the ff7 verse he has never used his full potential not once. and yes his sword would be enough to kill a weapon

Its power destroyed meteor, thats nothing to do with Sephiroths ability to stop it however, since his force that he used to stop it was not physical in nature itself. Its unkown weight proves that its overall force was unkown, therefore its not a feat.

his only feat and power to back up what the developers have said is his negative lifestream, pretending he has other powers we dont know of to back up his ability when theres already a single power is pointless and useless in a debate.

im not saying that he has powers that he hasnt shown, im saying he has strength that he hasnt shown, (tho he probably does have powers he hasnt shown) his physical strength would be enough to kill weapon and link easily

Originally posted by niduin
im not saying that he has powers that he hasnt shown, im saying he has strength that he hasnt shown, (tho he probably does have powers he hasnt shown) his physical strength would be enough to kill weapon and link easily

....what feats of physical strength does he even have? ive seen one at all, merely one assumed feat which was that fat serpant impaledo n a tree....hes a weak character by feats of durability as well, he couldnt take a hit.

omg, you dont need feats when the creators said that he is the strongest, and....you know what im done arguing with you, you seem content with your ignorance

He is the strongest, and his only ability to say so is his negative lifestreeam, simple as.....the developers are correct, you inventing abilities or claiming he has anything else than what his shown is redundant and irrelvent

why are you still arguing with me i told you im done arguing with you

I did not say I was done argueing with you though did I? no...so shut up and leave this thread if you dont want to argue, otherwise youll contradict yourself.

Originally posted by niduin
LOL....HAHAHAHA. are you kidding you really think that sephiroth is not that strong? and what stone are you talking about? and are you sure its canon and not pis? you do realize that link is more on the lines of a cartoon so something like steel boots would account for him moving somehting really heavy.

sephiroth was holding back a power that was meant to destroy a meteor that would have destroyed the planet with his MIND!!!!, while fighting 6+ people, thats way more power than 1000 tons. it has been stated that he is the most powerful being in the ff7verse and the weapons each are capable of destroying citys with single attacks. honestly not even thinking about sephiroth even fighting link what would link do to that to kill it?

Alright, the first thing you should know, is I do alot of down-rounding in these numbers specificly so that if I screw up, I err on the pesimistic side, thus these are not exagerated fanboy numbers, at all.

Alright, we'll begin with the granite rock. [Mathed as white granite, lighter than black.]

Let me be clear, this is me being VERY conservative and working with rounded numbers. [rounded DOWN to the nearest million in the case of mass in pounds.]

If the stone Link threw in the original feat moved approx 225 metres [nice down rounded estimate] horizontally [I'm not bothering to math the high arc, screw that. If I -did- I'd get an even larger number, so this is more down-rounding.]

and 2 million pounds is 907184.739 kilos, and it was in the air approx 3 seconds, [thus moving at an easily mathed 75 m/s]

K=1/2mv^2

M= 907184.73999
V= 75

this means K [kinetic energy] = 2551457081.25 joule.

^Link is capable of generating an extremely high level of joulage with his muscles, and that is not his peak possible throw, but as his best feat, we round it down to be on the safe side.

Now that we know how much energy he can produce, roughly, we can apply that energy to a simple equasion for throwing somethign of the same density as the granite.

Now, just for purposes of being conservative, rather than put in the realisitc weight of something like his sheild, we'll put in.. 100 lbs? K. Watch.

K = 2551457081.25 joules
m = 100 pounds = 45.359237 kilograms

Thus:

velocity (v) = 10606.6017178 meter/second
velocity (v) = 3818376618.52 centimeter/hour
velocity (v) = 1060660.17178 centimeter/second
velocity (v) = 3006595762.52 foot/day
velocity (v) = 34798.5620663 foot/second
velocity (v) = 1503297881.26 inch/hour
velocity (v) = 417582.744795 inch/second
velocity (v) = 10.6066017178 kilometer/second
velocity (v) = 20617.5843505 knot
velocity (v) = 31.1683858883 mach sea level 15 C
velocity (v) = 916410388.416 meter/day
velocity (v) = 23726.2923179 mile/hour
velocity (v) = 6.59063675498 mile/second
velocity (v) = 10606601.7178 millimeter/second
velocity (v) = 3.53798150513E-05 speed of light in vacuum
velocity (v) = 11599.5206888 yard/second

Rise from your grave! /Altered Beast

..I'm going to end your life. |:

If Terry comes back I will laugh so hard my face will explode.

Link and Sephiroth have a 10 sec staredown then link defends and slashes sephiroth once and he explodes 😐