Sephiroth vs Link

Started by k1Lla441104 pages

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
the scenario doesn't work because the Skull kid had no way of getting into the moon, and Link had no way out until it broke anyway.

Like i said, it was just an example, not to be taken as fact.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'll give you an egg, you try to break the shell, and have the yolk land on the otherside of the room without breaking before it hit the ground, the shell has to stay where it is while you break it. Really, the scenario's you're outlining to have Link not under some kind of force are impossible.This is all moot though, because using it as an -example- of why even without his piece of the triforce he's not normal =/= using it for the actual debate of Link vs Sephiroth.

How do you not know its pis?
Where do you see link fall from the moon?
You cant either each of these questions, since we dont know, and it could have been either. pis would be a perfect example of link taking no force at all, i mean this game was made for the n64, so it being pis is a great possibility.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1. It is proven, that it happened, it's undenyable. WHAT happened, we dunno, it;'s an unknown variable, and THAT is why I don't use it. Besides, I don't need it, what we do know, is it was moon-busting.

2. It's also flawed because Cloud can catch him with an omnislash unerringly.


The only thing that we can prove is that the moon was no more, how do you know it didnt vanish? You cant. Because unless you can prove, for a fact that link was on that moon, and that something vanishing expells enough force to actually do something, then that aspect of link being of the moon is not true. So far the only thing that i know is that the moon was "destroyed" and thats the only thing you can prove.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ocarina of Time, Link had a special animation for gettign hit by Ganon, it had a special sound effect, Zelda screamed, the entire thing was unique and had it's own special -unique- pieces intentionally designed by Nintendo. It's canon that Link got hit by Ganon. The only way to see and hear these special, unique effects, is for Ganon to hit you. Ganon canonicly is not only a hell of a lot stronger than Link, even with the golden gauntlets, but in this form is seen disintegrating stone, not cutting it, disintegrating it.

I said prove it, so show me a video of link tanking a hit from ganon and show me another vid where ganon struck that piece of stone the same way he struck link, and disintegrated that piece of stone. Failure to do either is not proof. And only videogames are canon here.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's a fact, any other way for the moon to break that are even remotely physicly possible, even with quantum physics and Einstein in tears, would require a LOT more energy.

Doesn't matter though, I'm just highlighting it because you seem to think I'm overhyping a feat I'm not even using. =P

Anyway, I gotta get back to my skool workz. T_T HALP. I'll pay you to do some!? =D

Edit: @Ares. I'm using OoT/MM Link, but other Links can win this aswell.


Einstein would already be crying from the fact that your arguing a kid can tank a moon explosion, there are miny "pocket universes" inside this moon, the moon has a face, and there is an evil demonic mask fighting this nearly invincible kid. Those examples were just that; examples, my point being that what your trying to argue is something simply understood from the definitions of fact, theory, and speculation.

You did use it by mentioning it to terry.

What kind of workzz is it?!? maybe i will, sir!

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This why the video of Link firing an arrow into the sun is relevant. For whatever reason it can survive the extreme tension Link puts it under.

I wasn't aware it actually got shot into the sun xD. But okay.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Fair enough, but Link's time control is literally indefinate, do Sephiroth's spells have a duration? If so this gives Link an advantage. Link would cast Nayru's love before using the ocarina to protect it. From there, he can wait Sephiroth's stop out, and he can attack from inside the spell.

Yeah, they have a duration but can be refreshed also, I think this is coming into gameplay a bit now.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The sheild would still explode like a comet when it hit him, blasting him apart, my whole point here is that Sephiroth would be out of comission long enough for Link to follow up.

Okay, agreed.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Summonz r bad. In this case Link would be allowed to summon the giants that held up the moon.

Indeed, he could try.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm saying that I doubt very highly that a silly technicality like TKing Link's clothes off probably wouldn;t get by ancient artifact of supreme power 😛 Especially one that's hinted to be sentient.

Fair enough, I will drop this even though we don't really know either way.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'll meet you halfway at 50% because it'd explode on contact. =P The math speaks for itself, a comet striking Seph seems like it'd tear him up badly, Sephiroth doesn't have much in the way of durability feats.*snip*

Why would it explode? I mean it would be incredibly hot and moving very fast what that would be like to me is say, a block of butter floating and someone (skilled at throwing a knife) throws a knife that was microwaved for a few minutes at the butter so the knife would just go through it?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
and using the NL to give him thousand's of people's compounded durability wouldn't make a comet splat him any less, and Sephiroth's never been shown to really use the NL to augment himself with it like that, unless he already had done it off screen.

If someone soaks themselves in the lifestream (Mako) they will gain superhuman abilities because basically they are absorbing spirit energy, it was apart of the process of making SOLDIER.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

1. Which doesn't speak well of it's power, tbh. [The children] and I know it was the NL in the sky, but I'm saying that it didn't really do alot.

Okay.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
2. The NL does seem different, it performs entirely different under Sephiroth, maybe his control is different, or his control of it isn't 100%? There's clear difference, though. Enough for me to wonder what the NL is capable of, because it does things the LS didn't and doesn't do thingsit did.

In what way does it perform different? Like what? Seriously this is no argument as the creators have said: It is the lifestream under the control of Sephiroth, there are no buts about it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
3. A personality trait which doesn't help him any, he dies anytime an omnislash lands on him, and omnislash has nothing in the way of destructive feats. why he letsit happen, if that's the case , I dunno, all I know is omnislash kills Sephiroth, and it comes from Cloud, Link has power from sources beyond Cloud, including his own, to wield against Sephiroth, and Link does work, never drags his ass, he just keeps working as efficiently as possible to win.

Like I have said before Omnislash uses a LOT of spirit energy (the thing the lifestream is made up of) to do the attack, it also happens in less then a second. It is more powerful then Climhazard (the limit used to destroy Bahamut SIN) by a significant amount (Climhazard is his 4th limit from memory).

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Thousands of people standing on each other's shoulders, hit from head to toe to head to toe, would not stop the sheild. =P

How can you be sure?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm enjoying this too, hahah, happy debating, sir. Merry Easter and such.

=D Merry Easter to you too, I had sooo much chocolate...and I thought I was too old to get easter eggs anymore.

I have been playing my friends copy of Majoras Mask, I just saved the boat ticket witch person inside the wierd place with monkeys, I actually thought I had to finish the game in the '3 days' alotted for a while xD.

dude your too nice. you could probably do a lot better if you were just more assertive.

He really is too nice, that said, I'm gonna reply to him a bit later [heading to skool with a hang over... YAAAY] Still, it's better than pig-headed 😆

I did some LingOL at the random Joker fan argument. 😂

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He really is too nice, that said, I'm gonna reply to him a bit later [heading to skool with a hang over... YAAAY] Still, it's better than pig-headed 😆

I guess your right, but still 😕

Originally posted by k1Lla441
dude your too nice. you could probably do a lot better if you were just more assertive.

xD How?

So, I just remembered Majora Link got knocked out from those fairies suprising the horse making it knock him off!

stuff like "okay" and "fair enough, ill drop this" and "agreed" are okay to use sometimes, but to use each multiple times is kinda of letting your opponent push you around. its not a bad thing, but... wait imo it is a bad thing lol.

Well, I feel I don't need to push on those points to win my argument.

It was just some of my advice, use it, ignore it, do what you want.

You have got to be kidding me. I've been off for at least a week and this shit is still going?

WoW...just WoW.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
It was just some of my advice, use it, ignore it, do what you want.

Haha, well...thanks!

link can increace his spead with the ocerana of time.

Why did you revive a heated thread? Why? Just why?

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Why did you revive a heated thread? Why? Just why?

Why not?

Agreed. Pardon us for discussing character vs in the character vs forum? OMG D:!

Still, if this thread gets heated again I might just get lazy. I'm on all 53 pages, and still confident in my stance.

What makes this thread heated is upset fanboys who wont take Seph losing for an answer...

Originally posted by LLLLLink
What makes this thread heated is upset fanboys who wont take Seph losing for an answer...
Not entirely true, there are one or two people liek this, but there are people in this thread who disagree but aren't being irrational douchwads =P Killa and Killer, respectively, are both pretty nifty.

Dont get me wrong, I'm not throwing everyone in the same boat. 🙂

i was ignoring this thread because it sounds WAY to rediculouse to argue against, but now i notice that there are 53 pages and i wonder....why? how do you think that link would stand a chance against sephiroth? i mean really? what on earth could link do to sephiroth to defeat him? sephiroths telecenesis allone would be enough to ensure a victory, then there is the fact that he is far stronger and way faster can fly, his sword is way longer (though he would still with without it) the only weaknes he has is his arogance, he knows he is powerful and he thinks that no one can defeate him and THAT is how cloud was able to defeat him cuz he wouldnt finnish him off he could have but he was toying arround with him.