Sephiroth vs Link

Originally posted by Burning thought
Having to get Blue key (golden gauntlets) to get through red door (granite slab) is a gameplay mechanic.

Its not a cutscene, theres merely about 10 seconds whereby Link throws it, its not a piece of storyline or information. Especially if he does it every time you come across one of these rocks since now it seems there are indeed more than one of them...exactley the same rocks.

That is FACTUALLY not a gameplay mechanic.

That is not a rule set place to make the gameplay better, it is not the "physics" or "controls" of the game, Carl "CJ" Johnson from GTA: San Andreas being able to take multiple bullets to the head is a gameplay mechanic.

Link in the storyline having to acquire the Golden Gauntlets to lift slabs of granite is NOT a gameplay mechanic, it is canon and required.

In WW Ganon says "I knew you'd show up, Hero, don't disappoint me", even though WW Link had never met Ganon before, he's reincarnated.

WW Link did have pointy ears, Moo, they all do.

The Granite throwing feat stands, BT. Neme even disagrees with some of my applications of math and sees the logic in it as a solid strength feat.

Would you rather everyone throw out random numbers with no basis or fact behind them ewxcept their own bias perceptions? Math = good.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Lol you have no idea what the fvck you are talking about.

That is FACTUALLY not a gameplay mechanic.

That is not a rule set place to make the gameplay better, it is not the "physics" or "controls" of the game, Carl "CJ" Johnson from GTA: San Andreas being able to take multiple bullets to the head is a gameplay mechanic.

Link in the storyline having to acquire the Golden Gauntlets to lift slabs of granite is NOT a gameplay mechanic, it is canon and required.

Truth.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yes it did. 😬 If Sephiroth could hurt Link, there's no way Link's body would have survived lifting a thousand ton pillar.

Sephiroth is not physicly strong enough for the two things to happen together and make any sort of sense.

Edit: This would be like you lifting a tank over your head, and then having your little brother come over and try to punch you out. Good luck to the kid. Your body's already proven that it can survive extreme forces beyond anything the little guy can apply to it.

Actually, even if you did lift a tank over you head, your little brother could punch you in the nose and make it bleed.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Him lifting the slab is not the problem.

Him taking into consideration Link's body being super durable because of throwing the slab is.

Exactly.

And, WHAT? All Link games are completely different Links? That is really confusing!

Not all of them, some Links see two games. =P

Like OOT link, who is also in MM?

...Seriously? You did not know this? That is...THE most basic knowledge about Zelda. 😬

/headdesk It makes me kind of sad this has been the guy trying to refute feats @_@ Same with BT.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
And, WHAT? All Link games are completely different Links?

oh What 😐

What?

Actually, even if you did lift a tank over you head, your little brother could punch you in the nose and make it bleed.

How so? Presumably a 100 tonner is going to be of appropriate proportional durability everywhere. Skin, Cartilage, Muscle, Bone, the whole 9 yards.

I can't think of any fictional character of super strength for which this does not apply.

...Really? Again? There is enough info in the previous 90 pages to shut down even the most dedicated Sephiroth bullshitter.

Btw, I dont have internet anymore. Being poor sucks. Just thought you guys should know why I havent been on.

(wow @ the socks)

Well I made it to Seraphim Sephiroth but got my ass kicked after a long battle.

From what I can see, Sephiroth doesn't seem as powerful as the fanboys claim he is (with him controlling the LifeStream and all that so-called will power). He seems to be equal to Kefka.

But I did discover that he has telekinesis. Before the final battle, he had all the characters levitated and paralyzed. Also, his final form has more magic power than anything I ever seen in a Zelda game (which should be obvious).

The Supernova attack is obviously exaggerated and according to the FF Wiki, it was originally just a big explosion. Of course, it would have to be since it never kills the party.

I think it's safe for me to say that Sephiroth has several ways to kill even the fanboy version of Link But he still loses to any wielder of the Triforce.

Damn you 5L. STOP BUMPING THIS TOPIC.

@Sin. TK doesn't work on Link. And Ganondorf is more powerful than Sephiroth in magic and muscle.

Sephiroth=Kefka? Lol wtf?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Lol you have no idea what the fvck you are talking about.

That is FACTUALLY not a gameplay mechanic.

That is not a rule set place to make the gameplay better, it is not the "physics" or "controls" of the game, Carl "CJ" Johnson from GTA: San Andreas being able to take multiple bullets to the head is a gameplay mechanic.

Link in the storyline having to acquire the Golden Gauntlets to lift slabs of granite is NOT a gameplay mechanic, it is canon and required.

Having to get gauntlets because he cant get past stone A is a gameplay mechanic, blue key is the gauntlets, stone is the litte door blue key opens simple as. If only I could find vids of Kains Blood omen 1 stones he had to constantly lift Kain would be even stronger than Link and his gauntlets.

Its a mechanic to make the gameplay longer and add a puzzle element. Just like finding blue key for red door 😉

Moaning that its canon just because its in the way does not hold up either, theres plenty of invisible walls or tiny surfaces that Gordan freeman "should" be able to get around in a real environment, he just cant because the game has put these walls up, in a real canon event however he could easily move around these obstacles.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
In WW Ganon says "I knew you'd show up, Hero, don't disappoint me", even though WW Link had never met Ganon before, he's reincarnated.

WW Link did have pointy ears, Moo, they all do.

The Granite throwing feat stands, BT. Neme even disagrees with some of my applications of math and sees the logic in it as a solid strength feat.

Would you rather everyone throw out random numbers with no basis or fact behind them ewxcept their own bias perceptions? Math = good.

Neme prob only disagrees with things that dont help him prop up characters he does like such as Ganon, in the end hes supporting logic in one place and denying the same in other instances.

not random numbers, just educated guesses based on real objects of similiar size or we could just evaluate the strength of two beings of what theyve actually lifted, its obvious if you compare Link lifting this block compared to Kain lifting one man, Link would be superior without the requirement for math, math in a fictional world does not necesserily hold,and is completly trodden over when its not the Developers/designers pointing out the math or the actual strength of the feat.

All this feat is, is the opposite of Kratos struggling to lift the little gates in the game, its just a way to make playersd work more for a goal, its not mentioned in the storyline.

doesn't Link have Magic Cape which allows intangibility

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Damn you 5L. STOP BUMPING THIS TOPIC.

@Sin. TK doesn't work on Link. And Ganondorf is more powerful than Sephiroth in magic and muscle.

I think it's safe to say that TK doesn't work on Link since the Master Sword seems to have anti-magic properties (much like the Excalibur has healing power for the wielder).

No doubt Ganon has the muscle but the magic? If only he showed off more of it. I know Ganon has invisibility and a god form which was fended off by Midna. Can he destroy the world with a meteor or pull off something like Supernova?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sephiroth=Kefka? Lol wtf?

1. You have to deal with 3 boss fights before the final fight:
FF6-The three tiers and Kefka himself.
FF7-Jenova Synthesis, Bizarro, Safer, and then Sephiroth in his normal form (but it's not much of a fight).

2. Their final forms are angels and their battles take place in the sky.

3. Both use TK on the party (though Kefka only uses it on 3 people).

4. Both can use Heartless Angel.

5. Both of them use their wings as a powerful physical move.

6. Both show a closeup of their face before using their strongest attack (Forsaken/Goner and Supernova).

7. Both of them are capable of destroying their respective planets.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
I think it's safe to say that TK doesn't work on Link since the Master Sword seems to have anti-magic properties (much like the Excalibur has healing power for the wielder).

No doubt Ganon has the muscle but the magic? If only he showed off more of it. I know Ganon has invisibility and a god form which was fended off by Midna. Can he destroy the world with a meteor or pull off something like Supernova?

Yes, that was established much earlier on in the thread. I don't blame you, I blame 95 pages.

Ganon will not show off the kind of magic you want him to. He wants to rule the world, not destroy it. Ganon is leagues ahead of Majora, who himself could have devastated most of the world of OoT/MM by bringing down the moon. He did banish Phantom Ganon to the gap between dimensions, laid a death curse on the Great Deku Tree and brought the dead Volvagia back to life. All are pretty damn impressive.

doesn't Link have Magic Cape which allows intangibility

Yes, but not in OoT. Maybe in MM, but I haven't finished that game yet.

@BT. Scream used Math to quantify the feat. You're trying to downplay it by dismissing it as a "gameplay mechanic" even now. What would you treat it as without the numbers? Unimpressive?

First of all, as for Kefka and Sephiroth being equals, Kefka is a casual city buster and can rearrange continents at a whim. Something Sephiroth cannot do. Kefka is far more powerful.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Having to get gauntlets because he cant get past stone A is a gameplay mechanic, blue key is the gauntlets, stone is the litte door blue key opens simple as. If only I could find vids of Kains Blood omen 1 stones he had to constantly lift Kain would be even stronger than Link and his gauntlets.

Its a mechanic to make the gameplay longer and add a puzzle element. Just like finding blue key for red door 😉

Moaning that its canon just because its in the way does not hold up either, theres plenty of invisible walls or tiny surfaces that Gordan freeman "should" be able to get around in a real environment, he just cant because the game has put these walls up, in a real canon event however he could easily move around these obstacles.

2. Neither are gameplay mechanics. You are wrong. GTFO.

3. That has....Nothing to do with what Link did. The blocks were also in a dialogue sequence between Navi and Link(though Link never talks), she said he would need something to make him stronger. The Golden Gauntlets did that. Denying him the strength they give him is like denying him the Light Arrows or Master Sword.