Sephiroth vs Link

Started by Q'Anilia104 pages
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Let's face it, if Sephiroth could hurt Link, he would have crushed himself just lifting, let alone throwing, a thousand ton pillar.

That didn't make any sense.

Yes it did. 😬 If Sephiroth could hurt Link, there's no way Link's body would have survived lifting a thousand ton pillar.

Sephiroth is not physicly strong enough for the two things to happen together and make any sort of sense.

Edit: This would be like you lifting a tank over your head, and then having your little brother come over and try to punch you out. Good luck to the kid. Your body's already proven that it can survive extreme forces beyond anything the little guy can apply to it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yes it did. 😬 If Sephiroth could hurt Link, there's no way Link's body would have survived lifting a thousand ton pillar.

Sephiroth is not physicly strong enough for the two things to happen together and make any sort of sense.

Edit: This would be like you lifting a tank over your head, and then having your little brother come over and try to punch you out. Good luck to the kid. Your body's already proven that it can survive extreme forces beyond anything the little guy can apply to it.

Your wording sucked 😛

But truth be told, you are debating Link on a developer miss-basis. There is no way the developers has taken those calculations in consideration when they created the various scenarios where he goes through this.

To my understanding, you've create a Link different from the intended.

Dude.

NO ONE takes the strain that comes with lifting into consideration when it comes to fiction. Seriously, the list of fictions that apply science that heavily are few.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Dude.

NO ONE takes the strain that comes with lifting into consideration when it comes to fiction. Seriously, the list of fictions that apply science that heavily are few.

This is true. Although if he can prove that the developers has taken all this science in consideration, then it's all alright.

For once I agree with Q'Anilia, its stupid to try and use maths YOU have put together to try and explain a complicated amount of weight, lifting, strength etc.

Therefore....if the developers never actually intended for Link to be a 1000 tonner (its unkown, but unlikely that they did) then its not a canon number or calculation.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
😆 Seph's going to speed blitz someone he can't hurt? GREAT ARGUMENT!

He would slice out links eyes and then stick his sword down his throat into links organs before the legolas midgit could utter a word....

Originally posted by Burning thought
For once I agree with Q'Anilia, its stupid to try and use maths [b]YOU have put together to try and explain a complicated amount of weight, lifting, strength etc.

Therefore....if the developers never actually intended for Link to be a 1000 tonner (its unkown, but unlikely that they did) then its not a canon number or calculation. [/B]

Him lifting the slab is not the problem.

Him taking into consideration Link's body being super durable because of throwing the slab is.

The slab is just as bad, we can take its extremely heavy, but just because he mathed it to be 1000 tonnes does not mean it is. The fact thats likely the only place you see link exhibiting that sort of strength is more than enough evidence to swing the idea to the favour that the developers did not intend to make Link a 1000 tonner. Doesnt he do the same to other rocks in the game that look exactley the same?...obvioulsy its just developers being lazy, just like it is with Mario lifting silly things.

He does not throw any other rock in such a fashion, and the game is over five minutes after getting the Golden Gauntlets.

So regardless of anything else, its not even a feat that recurs or is seen in the many other Link games? I thot Moo said something about there being one in front of Ganons castle, I think ive seen screens of him near a cave mouth AND in a lava pit....

Theres three pillars to lift.

Two are mandatory, one is not.

Originally posted by Burning thought
So regardless of anything else, its not even a feat that recurs or is seen in the many other Link games? I thot Moo said something about there being one in front of Ganons castle, I think ive seen screens of him near a cave mouth AND in a lava pit....
Why would it be in other Zelda games? You do realise nearly every game is a different Link using different items right?

And he is right, I forgot about that. Regardless though, those are the only things that the gauntlets are required to lift, and he throws them all. What is your point?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why would it be in other Zelda games? You do realise nearly every game is a different Link using different items right?

And he is right, I forgot about that. Regardless though, those are the only things that the gauntlets are required to lift, and he throws them all. What is your point?

Their still Link, and what do you mean by diffrent? their the same design, the only diffrence must be some are older or otherwise, theres still a lot of recuring items like the master sword which apprently excists in several games. Is it not the same universe in every Link game?

The point is their all exactley the same, its not a specific feat or an important event, its just like any other block pushed around, its evidence for the Developers obviously not interested in 1000 ton strength link or implying at all that that is what they intentioned with him throwing these blocks, its a lot like any similiar game where you have to bypass a block. its like Kratos having trouble lifting gates, only its the opposite, Link having ridiculous strength when faced with these rocks but not otherwise.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Their still Link, and what do you mean by diffrent? their the same design, the only diffrence must be some are older or otherwise, theres still a lot of recuring items like the master sword which apprently excists in several games. Is it not the same universe in every Link game?

The point is their all exactley the same, its not a specific feat or an important event, its just like any other block pushed around, its evidence for the Developers obviously not interested in 1000 ton strength link or implying at all that that is what they intentioned with him throwing these blocks, its a lot like any similiar game where you have to bypass a block. its like Kratos having trouble lifting gates, only its the opposite, Link having ridiculous strength when faced with these rocks but not otherwise.

Hahaha no. It is a different Link. The Link in OoT is dead by the time of Windwaker or Twilight Princess. Golden Gauntlets do not ever appear again, granted many games have similar items like the Power Bracelets, but not the gauntlets. It is the same universe, but different characters, the only constant character is that every game has the same Ganon.

Okay. Going by that, every time Kain pushes a block, I guess that it is not a real strength feat, right? 🙂

The feat exists, and there is nothing to contradict it.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hahaha no. It is a different Link. The Link in OoT is dead by the time of Windwaker or Twilight Princess. Golden Gauntlets do not ever appear again, granted many games have similar items like the Power Bracelets, but not the gauntlets. It is the same universe, but different characters, the only constant character is that every game has the same Ganon.

Okay. Going by that, every time Kain pushes a block, I guess that it is not a real strength feat, right? 🙂

The feat exists, and there is nothing to contradict it.

Then explain why they are all the same people? little green wearing elven looking folk....

Exactley so they dont appear again, they have no recurrance despite recurance being shown in other items and his strength is not shown on anything beyond those rocks which care gameplay mechanics.

lol I knew you would try and bring that up, Kain and Raziels strength are consistent, they are at base level pointed out to be naturally super human, what Links gauntlets allow him to do is unkown.

Because its not recuring, its just a pretty much gameplay element, and yes, the feat exists, its dimentions however are worked out, so yes, Link does toss a big rock, how heavy it actually was and what the Gauntlets allow Link to do with these rocks is unkown apart from the fact it allows him to lift them. Whether they make him able to endure weight like Screampaste is debating for is neither here nor there...which means its not solid feat.

The Tunic is symbolic, in Twilight Princess the light spirit says that they belonged to the legendary Hero of Time (OoT Link) and in Wind Waker, its a tradition for boys to wear them on their 13th Birthday.

Wind Waker Link also does not have pointed ears, only his sister does.

ALttP Link has Pink Hair, no other Link does.

TP Link has Wolf like eyes, and WW has cat eyes.

So it just so happens their all called Link, wear the same clothes and in some cases fight the same opponents (ganon)? how odd....there must be a hole somewhere....what does Ganon say about having a Link from one era fighting him, defeating him then having another one, pretty much teh same facing him again..

Originally posted by Burning thought
Then explain why they are all the same people? little green wearing elven looking folk....

Exactley so they dont appear again, they have no recurrance despite recurance being shown in other items and his strength is not shown on anything beyond those rocks which care gameplay mechanics.

lol I knew you would try and bring that up, Kain and Raziels strength are consistent, they are at base level pointed out to be naturally super human, what Links gauntlets allow him to do is unkown.

Because its not recuring, its just a pretty much gameplay element, and yes, the feat exists, its dimentions however are worked out, so yes, Link does toss a big rock, how heavy it actually was and what the Gauntlets allow Link to do with these rocks is unkown apart from the fact it allows him to lift them. Whether they make him able to endure weight like Screampaste is debating for is neither here nor there...which means its not solid feat.

Because he is reincarnated. Also, the green garb is the traditional garb of the Hero of Hyrule, and for some reason or another the Link of that game is given it. Seriously, this is basic Zelda knowledge. OoT is hundreds of years before Wind Waker.

Point? They were only in one game, so we cannot give the feat to Wind Waker Link, yeah, but fact is OoT Link has them.

The rocks are gameplay mechanics lol? A game mechanic is a set of rules intended to produce an enjoyable game or gameplay. Like taking turns in a Final Fantasy game, VATS mode in Fallout 3, or moving your people around the board in a Tactics game. Link lifting a slab of granite in a cutscene is not a gameplay mechanic.

Link's gauntlets increase his physical strength. Stated in the description.

It does not occur in gameplay. It's a cutscene.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Because he is reincarnated. Also, the green garb is the traditional garb of the Hero of Hyrule, and for some reason or another the Link of that game is given it. Seriously, this is basic Zelda knowledge. OoT is hundreds of years before Wind Waker.

Point? They were only in one game, so we cannot give the feat to Wind Waker Link, yeah, but fact is OoT Link has them.

The rocks are gameplay mechanics lol? A game mechanic is a set of rules intended to produce an enjoyable game or gameplay. Like taking turns in a Final Fantasy game, VATS mode in Fallout 3, or moving your people around the board in a Tactics game. Link lifting a slab of granite in a cutscene is not a gameplay mechanic.

Link's gauntlets increase his physical strength. Stated in the description.

It does not occur in gameplay. It's a cutscene.

Having to get Blue key (golden gauntlets) to get through red door (granite slab) is a gameplay mechanic.

Its not a cutscene, theres merely about 10 seconds whereby Link throws it, its not a piece of storyline or information. Especially if he does it every time you come across one of these rocks since now it seems there are indeed more than one of them...exactley the same rocks.

Originally posted by Burning thought
So it just so happens their all called Link, wear the same clothes and in some cases fight the same opponents (ganon)? how odd....there must be a hole somewhere....what does Ganon say about having a Link from one era fighting him, defeating him then having another one, pretty much teh same facing him again..

Technically, you have to name them Link, we only know them as Link because its easier to know who you're talking about that way.

And yes, that is how the story works. Every time Ganon rises up to attempt to take over the world, the legendary hero returns to defeat him.

I believe in WW he even mentions something about that, but I'd have to play it again.