Banks steered blacks to bad loans, NAACP says

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Banks steered blacks to bad loans, NAACP says

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Banks steered blacks to bad loans, NAACP says
Class-action lawsuits target subprime lenders Wells Fargo, HSBC
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The NAACP is accusing Wells Fargo and HSBC of forcing blacks into subprime mortgages while whites with identical qualifications got lower rates.

Class-action lawsuits were to be filed against the banks Friday in federal court in Los Angeles, Austin Tighe, co-lead counsel for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, told The Associated Press.

Black homebuyers have been 3 1/2 times more likely to receive a subprime loan than white borrowers, and six times more likely to get a subprime rate when refinancing, Tighe said. Blacks still were disproportionately steered into subprime loans when their credit scores, income and down payment were equal to those of white homebuyers, he said.

Melissa Murray, vice president of corporate communications for Wells Fargo & Co., called the lawsuit "totally unfounded and reckless." The bank is receiving federal bailout funds.

"We have never tolerated, and will never tolerate, discrimination in any way, shape or form in any of our business practices, products, or services," Murray said.

HSBC said it does not comment on litigation. "HSBC stands by its fair lending and consumer protection practices, and we are confident that we are treating our customers fairly and with integrity," said Neil Brazil, vice president for public affairs.

An NAACP member, Amara Weaver of Milwaukee, said she was one of the victims of predatory lending. She bought her first home in 1984, receiving a 6.25 percent fixed-rate mortgage. She says she had a steady job as a human resources director for a social services agency, never missed a mortgage payment and maintained excellent credit.

In 2004, she wanted to buy the house next door for her son to live in. She said the bank promised her a low fixed rate for a $40,000 loan, but at the closing, when reading the fine print, she noticed that the rate was actually 11 percent.

"I was blown away," said Weaver, an NAACP member. "I didn't have any choice (but to sign). ... It made me feel violated."

Similar NAACP lawsuits are pending against a dozen other subprime lenders.

"This is systematic, institutionalized racism," Tighe said. "Once you take out factors relative to income and credit risk, the only difference between the borrowers is the color of their skin."

Tighe estimated that "tens of thousands" of blacks had been forced into bad loans, but said it was difficult to gauge the scope of the problem because banks keep much of their internal data private. The lawsuits could force banks to divulge closely guarded information, such as how banks can determine the race of a loan applicant and how federal bailout funds are being spent.

The NAACP is seeking reforms from the banks such as increased transparency in the loan process, educational outreach and internal training.

****in whitey! Holding the black man down again!

Re: Banks steered blacks to bad loans, NAACP says

That's why you ask them to fax, email or send you a copy of the final draft before signing day. Even then, you read and re-read the fine print.

People (not just black people) were definitely screwed by shady loans-men looking to make a quick commission, but in the end, no one forced people at gunpoint to sign.

I didn't read the whole story, but it smells of that crook Al Sharpton.

That's what they get for being black.

I think the NAAFP would be better.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's what they get for being black.

Isn't it forty acres and a mule?

Originally posted by jaden101
I think the NAAFP would be better.

Fat People?
Fudge People?
Food People?
Feast People?
Frito People?

Originally posted by Robtard
Isn't it forty acres and a mule?

No just oppression. They chose to be black when they were in heaven after all.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Fat People?

Bingo. Peter Griffin is the man.

What a load of crap.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What a load of crap.

Well they didn't give bad loans to white people srug

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well they didn't give bad loans to white people srug

Nope. White people had no bad debt. None.
Cos when you give loans, you want it all to go into bad debt, bankrupt your bank, just to spite black people.
You in no way look to lend it to people who can give it back with interest.

Seriously, white people should stop exploiting everyone with everything.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Nope. White people had no bad debt. None.
Cos when you give loans, you want it all to go into bad debt, bankrupt your bank, just to spite black people.
You in no way look to lend it to people who can give it back with interest.

Seriously, white people should stop exploiting everyone with everything.

Point well taken. I, at first, assumed this article to have a very serious and legit point.

However, after reading your comment, it makes more sense that this happened.

In this particular case, I don't think a "per captia" measurement is appropriate. Rather, it would be a raw number that is more appropriate. What about loan rejections? If the number of loans rejected exceeded the number of loans requested, for African Americans, relative to the white population, per capita (damn..that's a mouth full), then those numbers really mean jack shit.

However, if both sets of data agree with the NAACP's sentiments, then this is a very disturbing point. However, I didn't do it, and it wasn't my fault. so I am not paying for it and I am not sorry. It's their fault, regardless of race, for being the dumbass who fell for that bullshit. I don't ****ing care. You signed it without reading properly, you ****ed up. Ignorance doesn't get you out of a legal agreement, now does it? (I know that there is probably some exceptions, but arguing that would being missing my point.)

maybe the blacks weren´t steered but are on average a bit on the thick side when it comes to financial business.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
maybe the blacks weren´t steered but are on average a bit on the thick side when it comes to financial business.

I can see that.

However, there are some very frugal African Americans.

Let me know, though, when you see a white guy obessing over tacky and excessive jewelry and rims, and then I'll show you a white guy trying to be black.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Let me know, though, when you see a white guy obessing over tacky and excessive jewelry and rims, and then I'll show you a white guy trying to be black.

you don't know many white guys under 25 do you?

Originally posted by inimalist
you don't know many white guys under 25 do you?

I live in Oklahoma where most the middle class white boys are whiggers, to some degree. I think there are more "white black" people than "black black" people. 😐

It's ALL GTA's fault. 😆

Originally posted by dadudemon
I live in Oklahoma where most the middle class white boys are whiggers, to some degree. I think there are more "white black" people than "black black" people. 😐

It's ALL GTA's fault. 😆

lol, same where I live...

CJ mother****ers

EDIT: on a side note, anyone know why the censor even bothers to erase that? mother****ers is pretty much the same term. I don't imagine there are that many 11-12 year olds reading that going "mother-what-ers?"

Why would anyone want to have their trousers half way down their ass and walk like they've been shot in a leg?
Be it black or white.
Looks just as ridiculous on both.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Why would anyone want to have their trousers half way down their ass and walk like they've been shot in a leg?
Be it black or white.
Looks just as ridiculous on both.

Shot in the arse with a custard gun would be more apt.

This shit is racialist, yo

Racist against who, whites or blacks?

More like "silliest " taking the piss out of silly people white or black who walk about with their trousers hanging down, wearing a baseball cap the wrong way round and walking like they have gigantic balls and a pole up the butt.