Darkseid vs Ares (dc)

Originally posted by Allankles
He didn't cut off the omega effect since DS never even shot it, he put a forcefield next to his face as he tackled him.

He used a weapon to open the armor as he tackled DS. Everything he did was in the space of one tackle.

I don't think the shovel would have done much to DS.

Yes, he damaged him and pretty much wrecked his armor in one move. That's how effective Raker was and lucky for Darkseid the Guardians intervened.

The shovel would have damaged him imo. If one tackle can destroy his armor and leave his face cracked that shovel was going to mess his face up even more.

Originally posted by cloud102
Simonson stated Orion DID get the upper hand PHYSICALLY. Plus Orion defeated Darkseid from the inside out.

and where was this? as Darkseid has dominated Orion physically before

Originally posted by quanchi112
All he did was create a gust of wind.

He could only tap into the cosmic might Ds had stolen. He had no access to it on his own. 🙂 ]

It clearly wasn't just a gust of wind, and was an ability he has NEVER demonstrated before. Then again all you said Orion did was tell them to go away.

Originally posted by jasofisc
where does it say it weakened highfather????? it only said that because were they were that highfather could die. never any mention about weakening him.

If you can kill a god who as noted needed to be in this special location to do it you don't think that's a form of weakening? Seriously 😬

Some of these comments on this board are just silly 😬

Originally posted by -K-M-
and where was this? as Darkseid has dominated Orion physically before

Orion killed DS by physically beating him in NG v3 #2 and Orion also got the better of him in a physical gladitorial match on Apokolips in Orion #5 (which is probably what Cloud was referencing, seeing as it was written by Simonson).

Originally posted by Enyalus
Orion killed DS by physically beating him in NG v3 #2 and Orion also got the better of him in a physical gladitorial match on Apokolips in Orion #5 (which is probably what Cloud was referencing, seeing as it was written by Simonson).

Once again I'm not suprized.

I suggest you read the story as you leaving out HUGE amount of context, as it Darkseid let Orion win both times, case in point....

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/NewGodsv3_08-20.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/NewGodsv3_08-21.jpg

Originally posted by -K-M-
Once again I'm not suprized.

I suggest you read the story as you leaving out HUGE amount of context, as it Darkseid let Orion win both times, case in point....

I've read both stories. I know what happened. All I said was that Orion physically beat Darkseid twice. Which happened. And I think the latter was what Cloud was referencing.

He beat him because Darkseid as noted allowed him to, that's ignoring HUGE amounts of context

Uuuuuh...this board.

I believe he is referencing the events, not the legitimacy of Orion's wins over DS.

Originally posted by -K-M-
He beat him because Darkseid as noted allowed him to, that's ignoring HUGE amounts of context

Uuuuuh...this board.

Patricide was the only way to taint the Source enough for DS's purposes, true. I'm not really convinced DS let him win in Orion, though. Regardless of what DS claims. Whatever.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Patricide was the only way to taint the Source enough for DS's purposes, true. I'm not really convinced DS let him win in Orion, though. Regardless of what DS claims. Whatever.

Ummm...what? It was even referenced by other characters Darkseid did this on purpose to taint the source. Also other characters including Metron verified this 😬

Or maybe not.

Anyway, KM why are you trying to act like you know anything about non-Canadian characters?

I'm sorry I sometimes get confused 🙁

Originally posted by -K-M-
Ummm...what? It was even referenced by other characters Darkseid did this on purpose to taint the source. Also other characters including Metron verified this 😬

You're talking about his death during NG #2. I know. And I agree.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You're talking about his death during NG #2. I know. And I agree.

and I'm talking about the incident in Orion, which Metron varifies he threw the fight on purpose to taint Orion himself and on multiple occasions. It was clearly stated both instances Darkseid threw those fights...on purpose!

Originally posted by -K-M-
and where was this? as Darkseid has dominated Orion physically before

Originally posted by Enyalus
Orion killed DS by physically beating him in NG v3 #2 and Orion also got the better of him in a physical gladitorial match on Apokolips in Orion #5 (which is probably what Cloud was referencing, seeing as it was written by Simonson).

Originally posted by Enyalus
I've read both stories. I know what happened. All I said was that Orion physically beat Darkseid twice. Which happened. And I think the latter was what Cloud was referencing.

The underlined part is basically whats important. You asked Cloud a question. That's really all he could've been referencing. I was simply pointing it out.

and then you said "I'm not really convinced DS let him win in Orion" which isn't the case.

Originally posted by -K-M-
and then you said "I'm not really convinced DS let him win in Orion" which isn't the case.

Annoys me. A lot.

No it was directly stated in the same story arc, not months or years down the road but in the same story. That wasn't a cop-out as it was planned from the very start. The retcon of Dessad acting as Darkseid is a cop out.

Originally posted by -K-M-
No it was directly stated in the same story arc, not months or years down the road but in the same story. That wasn't a cop-out as it was planned from the very start. The retcon of Dessad acting as Darkseid is a cop out.

I'd forgotten about that. DS did throw the fight in Orion # 5.

I'm going off of what Walt Simonson said (time and time again) on the New Gods Message Board (you know, the writer himself) that Orion did indeed get the upper hand on Darkseid and would have WON the fight.

All the best, cloud102.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
SHOW THEM THE SCANS. Or I will. Your lies will not stand the light of truth.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/GreenLanternv380-PageGiant3pg60.jpg

and to reinforce the point:
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion18kebbin01.jpg

The Green Lantern Corp LOST THE WAR. The Guardians made a truce with DS and left Raker behind as part of the deal.

Just as DS planned.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion18kebbin21.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion18kebbin22.jpg

so? all this just shows that raker, who ever he is, did beat the crap out of ds and had him at spears point. he didnt loose coz ds beat him, he lost coz of the guardians intervention or something like that.

and as for ds vs ares... dont know crap about them both so meh...