Kain runs a gauntlet, with a twist.

Originally posted by Voyeur
But you can assume that Kain is able to rupture hearts and cause cardiac arrest even though he isn't capable of doing that with in the game? Please. Do not squander me with hopes of romantics to make Kain be able to break out of game mechanics and Link not too. You're not Terry and I like debating with you.

The Chateau Romani can bless you with infinite magic the entire start of game play through out the end. It's obvious that if you'd continue to go on and play that your Magic would become unyielding.

Water isn't infinite. It has to come from some where actually, and you can find that point and cut it off. But where are you going to find this source? It's just there. In Existence. Flowing through the Hero and allowing him to use his magic with out consequence.

So, Magic Cape. Spells, etc. Composite Link w/ out spell or full triforce.

As for the Blue Tunic/Zora Tunic or Zora Armor. I'd have to supply you with more detail in which they're capable of and then go into detail of how Fish and other things breathe under water.

I dont assume, Kain can move blood, simple as that, ime not assuming anything anymore than it is to assume Link can actually do sword moves outside the linear direct patterns shown in the games. A man who slashes left can aslo slash right, a guy who can pour blood through veins out of a man, can also decide to move it down into the heart or otherwise. But the Tunic does not necesserily give Oxygen, certainly not in the form of the bloods intake, being given Oxygen through a rebreather to live under water is adding Oxygen to the blood itself, not making that person not require blood.

But the source you provided states that it does give you enough magic for 3 days, its milk that increases your stamina.

The source enters Link, where the source is from is irrelvent, like an umbilical cord from a mother to her baby, you dont have to find the source of it, slicing it anywhere would sever teh cord.

Maybe but youd still be running along a thin line if you think just because he is wearing a tunic he can survive having blood flooded out of him. The rupturing alone would probably kill him and blood isnt "just" an Oxygen source, it moves salt which is important for energy as well I belive.

Originally posted by Phanteros
What about people who has a great immune system or those who survived weren't killed off instantly? this information will be very helpful because the only ones that seem to die faster are mostly kids who's systems aren't very good.

Lots of people were infected by the geostigma, they weren't directly exposed to the lifestream but they were in the area, most of those people were children because yeah, they have weaker immune systems. However, if you're directly attacked by the lifestream itself and the actual Jenova cells go into your body, chances are, you're infected. Cloud for example had Geostigma.

Geostigma is also most likely the disease Jenova released 2000 years prior to the game that wiped out the entire Cetra race. Although Sephiroth wasn't alive when the epidemic took place, once he was revived, it showed Denzel and he was acting strange, breathing heavy and had his face in his hands.

Originally posted by Terryc250
The only people who were killed off instantly are the people were were directly exposed to the lifestream as it was attacking Meteor.

Lots of people were infected by the geostigma, they weren't directly exposed to the lifestream but they were in the area, most of those people were children because yeah, they have weaker immune systems. However, if you're directly attacked by the lifestream itself and the actual Jenova cells go into your body, chances are, you're infected. Cloud for example had Geostigma.

Geostigma is also most likely the disease Jenova released 2000 years prior to the game that wiped out the entire Cetra race. Although Sephiroth wasn't alive when the epidemic took place, once he was revived, it showed Denzel and he was acting strange, breathing heavy and had his face in his hands.

/sigh w/e I'm done with these Link debates if people can't have common sense.

3 days because the game lasts 3 days.

If you drank the milk in OoT, or ALtTP then it'd last you for the entire game play. It gives Link an infinite magic supply.

but yeah, I'm done with these kids. Kek.

And in my original post I agreed the Blue Tunic thing doesn't have to be taken into consideration. But Chateau Romani and Magic cape, is all this Link would need.

Originally posted by Phanteros
then how come it took another 2000 years for it to become a epidemic to Humans?

Originally posted by Terryc250
Right, I can say that about you as well.

Everytime you try to say Zant does this and that, Ganon does this and that. I ask you to show me, you disappear.

Like it or not A>B>C logic works over 90% of the time. And rarely fails, I can give you probably 200 times it has worked, and i bet you can't even name 10 times it has failed.

In terms of feats Chaos/Omega is not > Sephiroth. I've numerously given you reason after reason why Sephiroth has done much more then them, and is capable of doing much more then them. Yet you ignore it because you're blinded by your bandwagon's ideology.

Me, being a fan of the FF7 compilation, reading the guides, playing just about every FF7 game, except the cellphone game one. In my opinion, I agree with the words the creators have said. So whos side holds more weight? The creators and mine, or yours?

.. Where the hell did you get that from? When has Aeris had "will" to make the lifestream more powerful then it is? If she led the lifestream, that's all she did. She didn't amp it up with some power.

The whole thing wasn't what disintegrated meteor.

And? The fact is NL is harmful. Portion of the lifestream was capable of disintegrating Meteor. Sephiroth's NL is atleast capable of harming physical beings. Again, if we look at the fact Sephiroths sword was made out of a bit of the lifestream yet is able to chop columns of concrete and buildings while lighting them ablaze, how much damage could a metropolis city worth of the NL do?

Also keep in mind that Ruvie who was exposed to the NL had black fluid running out of all the holes in her remains, Denzel being close to Ruvies body was contracted with Geostigma. Being attacked by NL can very well infect a person body with J-cells/Geostigma.

2. What? I have provided proof countless times on both of them, in your presence or not, I cannot recall, and there is more to debating than demanding video after video of proof. But revive whatever thread it was and fine, I'll get some vids.

3. No it doesn't actually. Different characters have different powersets which can give them advantages over different characters. I don't need to name shit, you're committing a logical fallacy.

4. Yes, they are. Chaos is faster, easily, by feats, and Omega is far stronger by virtue of size, much more durable with his shield, and more powerful. You have named SHIT to explain why Sephiroth is more powerful than a being who can take the entire Lifestream of the planet in no time and fly and create life on another planet.

5. Do not get me wrong, make a Sephiroth vs. Chaos or Omega thread and I am forced to say Sephiroth wins, I will not say it paired against other characters though.

This is what happens when you milk a series, the continuity goes to shit.

6. I never said that. 😐 She did manage to control it in the defense against Meteor though.

7. I just looked it up, apparently, it was Aeris controlling the Lifestream which blocked Meteor and then Holy being brought back to full power that destroyed it. And it is STILL far more vast than the NL.

8. Large portion of the Lifestream, and Holy. Physical beings...Who are weak. Does that mean it can harm the people people have claimed it can, like Kratos, Demitri, or Jedah? Hahaha no. Sephiroth's sword has his own force backing it up, and it is solidified and condensed compared to the gaseous NL.

9. A weak person. In this case a kid.

Originally posted by Voyeur
/sigh w/e I'm done with these Link debates if people can't have common sense.

3 days because the game lasts 3 days.

If you drank the milk in OoT, or ALtTP then it'd last you for the entire game play. It gives Link an infinite magic supply.

but yeah, I'm done with these kids. Kek.

And in my original post I agreed the Blue Tunic thing doesn't have to be taken into consideration. But Chateau Romani and Magic cape, is all this Link would need.

Umm statements > gameplay.

If it's stated to last 3 days, then it doesn't matter how long it lasts in gameplay. Remember, gameplay isn't always accurate.

It's not stated how long it lasts but it lasts atleast three days, this is obvious..

3 Days is 72 Hours.

You drink the Milk at 12:00 AM 1st day
The Clock Tower Opens 12:00 AM 3rd day

well what do you know, that' 3 days. And guess what? your magic is still going infinitely strong. I'm sorry but I played the game, have you? No? Okay, awesome. Even after the 12:00 AM 1st day to 12:00 AM 3rd day, there is a clock that counts down 10 minutes, that 10 minute over limit shows the 72 hours are over. And you still have your infinite magic while walking around the field and fighting in the sub dungeons in the pocket universe, and when you fight & defeat Majora.

I'm sorry but Chateau Romani is indeed an infinite source of Magic supply for Link. The word infinite exists for a reason. infinite source, cutting it off would do what? and where exactly can you cut it off? It's meant to go for ever.

Any way. After seeing an imbeciles response in an Anime/Manga versus and that people think anyone in the Bleach Universe can compare to Yusuke, along with other peoples complete and utter lack of common sense, in here as well, these debates will never end. The intelligent people will give facts and proofs and the morons will go "lol no U".

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Only I am intelligent. That's the difference.

2. What? I have provided proof countless times on both of them, in your presence or not, I cannot recall, and there is more to debating than demanding video after video of proof. But revive whatever thread it was and fine, I'll get some vids.

3. No it doesn't actually. Different characters have different powersets which can give them advantages over different characters. I don't need to name shit, you're committing a logical fallacy.

4. Yes, they are. Chaos is faster, easily, by feats, and Omega is far stronger by virtue of size, much more durable with his shield, and more powerful. You have named SHIT to explain why Sephiroth is more powerful than a being who can take the entire Lifestream of the planet in no time and fly and create life on another planet.

5. Do not get me wrong, make a Sephiroth vs. Chaos or Omega thread and I am forced to say Sephiroth wins, I will not say it paired against other characters though.

This is what happens when you milk a series, the continuity goes to shit.

6. I never said that. 😐 She did manage to control it in the defense against Meteor though.

7. I just looked it up, apparently, it was Aeris controlling the Lifestream which blocked Meteor and then Holy being brought back to full power that destroyed it. And it is STILL far more vast than the NL.

8. Large portion of the Lifestream, and Holy. Physical beings...Who are weak. Does that mean it can harm the people people have claimed it can, like Kratos, Demitri, or Jedah? Hahaha no. Sephiroth's sword has his own force backing it up, and it is solidified and condensed compared to the gaseous NL.

9. A weak person. In this case a kid.

1. Right, you have your opinion on yourself, as do I of myself. Saying you're intelligent, and so & so is not doesn't make you right.

2. Alright, go re-read the Chaos Vincent thread and find the parts where i ask you for proof.

3. And if one character can triumph over one characters powersets, and defeat that character. While another character fails to defeat it, and loses the fight. Chances are the character most superior would beat the lower inferior character.

The only time there is special occaions where A>B>C doesn't work, is if there is a specific weakness one character has of another. Say Super>Batman>Kryptoniteman>Superman. Other then those kind of special cases, A>B>C generally works.

4. Chaos is hardly faster. Sephiroth put up a barrier which took a Midgar destroying attack. Sephiroth held Holy with his will, he has the Negative Lifestream. Omega/Chaos are at a disadvantage.

5. No, it's because you underrate Sephiroth, and deny his feats. If you would accept them, then you would be on the same side of opinion as both me and the creators.

6. It's still the lifestream, she just guided it. Just as Sephiroth has influence over his own.

7. The negative lifestream is also more harmful then the regular lifestream because it is tainted with Jenova cells. A portion aided in the destruction of Meteor, and Sephiroth has ATLEAST enough NL to cover the entire skies of Midgar, in which you can even see midgar from space. Yet you think it won't be harmful for any of these characters? Don't be blinded by your anti ideology please.

8. Right, and i bet you would claim the NL wouldn't harm Omega weapon and Chaos either? The lifestream isn't "gaseous" (don't know where you got that from) It's a stream, that can be physical as it was helping with the destruction of Meteor. Yes Sephiroth used his NL sword with force, but the NL being controlled by Sephiroths will also has alot of force as well. See, this is the kind of attempts at downplaying Sephiroth which makes people have a different opinion on the creators words themselves. If people just accepted Sephiroths power, they would be on the same side as the creators.

9. Ruvie is an adult, and was simply exposed to the lifestream not even attacking her, just simply exposed to it. If the entire NL attacked a person, it would be a different story. And even if somehow the person survived, he would most likely have lots of J-cells infected into their body.

1. Right, you have your opinion on yourself, as do I of myself. Saying you're intelligent, and so & so is not doesn't make you right.

3. And if one character can triumph over one characters powersets, and defeat that character. While another character fails to defeat it, and loses the fight. Chances are the character most superior would beat the lower inferior character.

The only time there is special occaions where A>B>C doesn't work, is if there is a specific weakness one character has of another. Say Super>Batman>Kryptoniteman>Superman. Other then those kind of special cases, A>B>C generally works.

4. Chaos is hardly faster. Sephiroth put up a barrier which took a Midgar destroying attack. Sephiroth held Holy with his will, he has the Negative Lifestream. Omega/Chaos are at a disadvantage.

5. No, it's because you underrate Sephiroth, and deny his feats. If you would accept them, then you would be on the same side of opinion as both me and the creators.

7. The negative lifestream is also more harmful then the regular lifestream because it is tainted with Jenova cells. A portion aided in the destruction of Meteor, and Sephiroth has ATLEAST enough NL to cover the entire skies of Midgar, in which you can even see midgar from space. Yet you think it won't be harmful for any of these characters? Don't be blinded by your anti ideology please.

8. Right, and i bet you would claim the NL wouldn't harm Omega weapon and Chaos either? The lifestream isn't "gaseous" (don't know where you got that from) It's a stream, that can be physical as it was helping with the destruction of Meteor. Yes Sephiroth used his NL sword with force, but the NL being controlled by Sephiroths will also has alot of force as well. See, this is the kind of attempts at downplaying Sephiroth which makes people have a different opinion on the creators words themselves. If people just accepted Sephiroths power, they would be on the same side as the creators.

9. Ruvie is an adult, and was simply exposed to the lifestream not even attacking her, just simply exposed to it. If the entire NL attacked a person, it would be a different story. And even if somehow the person survived, he would most likely have lots of J-cells infected into their body.

Also, proof the NL is more damaging? what's special about it other than that little geostigma/cold/flu that doesn't devlop immediately and didn't kill Cloud before Cloud could lolomnislash Seph?

Shush, you're obviously just mad because you got shut down in the other thread. Sephiroth > Link. Don't cry over it.

Umm no, batman does not beat superman.

When did i say Sephiroth is faster? Learn to read? Go back to the other thread when i said Sephiroth is about a hundred times faster then Link, then showed you a video.

I'm not biased in Seph's favour, everything i post about him are all facts. It's your anti-Sephiroth bandwagon, that tries to downplay his facts.

And Cloud didn't have Geostigma when he fought Sephiroth dur. When Sephiroth was revived you can see how it affected Denzel.

Shush, you're obviously just mad because you got shut down in the other thread. Sephiroth > Link. Don't cry over it.

Umm no, batman does not beat superman.

I'm not biased in Seph's favour, everything i post about him are all facts. It's your anti-Sephiroth bandwagon, that tries to downplay his facts.

And Cloud didn't have Geostigma when he fought Sephiroth . When Sephiroth was revived you can see how it affected Denzel.

Exackereh! Geostigma has helped Seph when? Infected a powerful being, when? and lol.. You're verrrry proSephbias. Even I admit I'm a Link fan, not a fanboy, but a fan. 😛

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I REST MY CASE! LOL! and furthermore: mariofacepalm

Exackereh! Geostigma has helped Seph when? Infected a powerful being, when? and lol.. You're verrrry proSephbias. Even I admit I'm a Link fan, not a fanboy, but a fan. 😛

Dude, you just said Batman > Superman... I should be the one facepalming, everyone knows PIS aside, Superman > Batman.

Sephiroth was dead when the epidemic was happening? There is no cure for Geostgima except Aeris great gospel. The person will die and merge with Sephiroths lifestream.

LOL

Originally posted by Terryc250
Dude, you just said Batman > Superman... I should be the one facepalming, everyone knows PIS aside, Superman > Batman.

Sephiroth was dead when the epidemic was happening? There is no cure for Geostgima except Aeris great gospel. The person will die and merge with Sephiroths lifestream.

In teh comicz, Batman, and Superman, had a fightz, and Batman wonz!

Also, I conclude this to mean; "never.".

Do you know how many times Superman and Batman fought "In teh comicz" ? One fight means shit, obviously PIS helped batman win, or some kind of kryptonite.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Do you know how many times Superman and Batman fought "In teh comicz" ? One fight means shit, obviously PIS helped batman win, or some kind of kryptonite.

No johns, Batman came prepared. You expect him to fight someone who's immune to bullets with say.. a pointy stick? =P Smarts count in a fight, and being smart enough to abuse the only weakness your enemy has can win you a fight, and it did. this debunks a>b>c logic.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Do you know how many times Superman and Batman fought "In teh comicz" ? One fight means shit, obviously PIS helped batman win, or some kind of kryptonite.

Superman has nearly killed Batman. 😐

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Superman has nearly killed Batman. 😐

<_< But has also lost to Batman. Sh. I was using it to point out the problem with a>b>c. It doesn't take into accoutn the difference between characters. If one can go get kyptonite, he can beat superman, who obviously trumps Hulk, but Hulk can trump kryptonite guy.