Originally posted by VoyeurThe item gives him infinite magic for over three days, how much more? We do not know. Yet you are automatically assuming it is inexhaustible which is the usage of the No-Limits fallacy. I find your sense of logic amusing.
I'm sorry but that is what the item does. Blame Canon for making the item.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneruand I find that you are not able to prove other wise a factor.
The item gives him infinite magic for over three days, how much more? We do not know. Yet you are automatically assuming it is inexhaustible which is the usage of the No-Limits fallacy. I find your sense of logic amusing.
so should I leave my game on for ever while standing and walking around in the final level, showing that it could go for ever if you choose to do so? I mean.....I'm sorry that it's so obvious.
assuming Kain can manipulate blood freely with in a human body, or even that it some how specifically is the blood-cell is a fallacy. All he normally does is siphon blood out of people, the full liquid as a whole. You never see him do a specific blood-cell.
Everyone goes beyond the game mechanic and can try to prove and show the obvious. This is an item invented to have a no-limit fallacy. So....it does. Or, here, it ends when the game credits roll? I mean, yeah, that's retarded. But I'm open to see where you guys can point out it would end other wise. Not playing the game is a hinder to that but it's easy to find footage and read up.
Originally posted by Voyeur1. I don't need to prove it doesn't, I don't have to prove a negative, you are committing the Burden of Proof fallacy, burden of proof is on you.
and I find that you are not able to prove other wise a factor.so should I leave my game on for ever while standing and walking around in the final level, showing that it could go for ever if you choose to do so? I mean.....I'm sorry that it's so obvious.
assuming Kain can manipulate blood freely with in a human body, or even that it some how specifically is the blood-cell is a fallacy. All he normally does is siphon blood out of people, the full liquid as a whole. You never see him do a specific blood-cell.
Everyone goes beyond the game mechanic and can try to prove and show the obvious. This is an item invented to have a no-limit fallacy. So....it does. Or, here, it ends when the game credits roll? I mean, yeah, that's retarded. But I'm open to see where you guys can point out it would end other wise. Not playing the game is a hinder to that but it's easy to find footage and read up.
2. Obvious gameplay mechanic is obvious.
3. O RLY? Do you think? Don't you dare group me in with Burning Thought and his Kain ramblings.
4. You're really an arrogant prick for a guy who has no idea what he is talking about. It is only shown in gameplay, and does it make magic limitless? Sure. Should we assume it will last forever? Nah, that's a logical fallacy.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru4. You're really an arrogant prick for a guy who has no idea what he is talking about. It is only shown in gameplay, and does it make magic limitless? Sure. Should we assume it will last forever? Nah, that's a logical fallacy.
Game Mechanics, restricting it to the game play is a game mechanic. It gives Link a limitless fallacy. I like being called an ass hole more.
I proved that with Baker's infinite theorem.
Once something has a started pattern of numbers (in this case days/minutes/time in the game) and it keeps going on that path, it will just do so infinitely. I can show and post graphs of how this works.
I posted that for a reason. If you want, I can show the other infinite theorem or the proofs to go along with the first one to check the math. Technically the entire word infinity is a fallacy because nothing is known 100%. Everything is a questionable situation. Infinity is just determined if one part of the number is as large as the whole. So if the power lasts the same in One day, as it does in 3, or 3 days in 10 minuets, etc. then it can be drawn that it will last on any other following days as an infinite.
I guess that's as simple as I can break it down and translate. Other then that I can post all of it and how it works, or you can be a doll and check for yourself and I'm more then open to criticism if you can show me a flaw via 2 mathematicians' theories on infinity then, okay, I'll concede with ease.
other then that I have to run some errands today. Peace for now.
Phanteros I pray you are not counting the Superman movie as Canon. And this is entirely off subject. And actually iirc Goku was capable of breathing and flying in space after planet Namek was destroyed, as you also see in those flash backs of the Sayian planet being blown up that the Saiyans can all breathe and function in space, above the exosphere.
Super Man never went "infinite" speed. Only the Flashs' have gone to such extreme velocities that they get stuck in Speed Force and live in another dimension outside the physical plane of existence.
But this is off subject. Technically Super Man is nothing more then you or I when in the rays of a red sun. He's only "Super" in yellow sun rays. So if Goku were to grab him and instant transmission to an area with red sun rays, Super Man would loose all his powers and then be defeated.
He'd still be alive though and just a severe state of a comma. And would have to regenerate under Yellow Sun Rays again, like after his defeat at the hands of Darkseid. SuperMan isn't unbeatable -.-
And Superman doesn't really have any means of being able to KITE or use projectiles like Goku can. I mean, I think DBZ is pretty gay after a lot of the series and it went down hill, but it has nostalgic value some where, and I never liked Goku or thought "oh cool he's so strong." But in this situation I think he would beat SuperMan, honestly. From my knowledge of both.
Originally posted by Voyeurthis is all from the comics. i read them. goku needed a ship to escape namek canonically. in the comics superman is a planet buster or warmer, mover, juggler. he also went that fast in pre crisis.
Phanteros I pray you are not counting the Superman movie as Canon. And this is entirely off subject. And actually iirc Goku was capable of breathing and flying in space after planet Namek was destroyed, as you also see in those flash backs of the Sayian planet being blown up that the Saiyans can all breathe and function in space, above the exosphere.Super Man never went "infinite" speed. Only the Flashs' have gone to such extreme velocities that they get stuck in Speed Force and live in another dimension outside the physical plane of existence.
But this is off subject. Technically Super Man is nothing more then you or I when in the rays of a red sun. He's only "Super" in yellow sun rays. So if Goku were to grab him and instant transmission to an area with red sun rays, Super Man would loose all his powers and then be defeated.
He'd still be alive though and just a severe state of a comma. And would have to regenerate under Yellow Sun Rays again, like after his defeat at the hands of Darkseid. SuperMan isn't unbeatable -.-
And Superman doesn't really have any means of being able to KITE or use projectiles like Goku can. I mean, I think DBZ is pretty gay after a lot of the series and it went down hill, but it has nostalgic value some where, and I never liked Goku or thought "oh cool he's so strong." But in this situation I think he would beat SuperMan, honestly. From my knowledge of both.
Originally posted by Voyeuractually most of superman's weakness are gone now. the kryptonite is render useless against him.
really? Because the planet was destroyed or his ship was not accessible iirc. Either way, if Super Man can beat him, cool. If Goku can, alright awesome *sarcastic tones* I just think Super Man as more weaknesses going against him unfortunately. I don't like either characters.
Originally posted by Phanteroslast time My mate told me what is going on in the super hero world, Batman was raped by Darkseid but some how saved by the flashs before then or some BS and then "died" but is not back in like the Stone age, writing the bat symbol on a cave.
actually most of superman's weakness are gone now. the kryptonite is render useless against him.
and super man, I just don't like him or Clark Kent as characters.
Originally posted by VoyeurSuperman is also more realistic now
last time My mate told me what is going on in the super hero world, Batman was raped by Darkseid but some how saved by the flashs before then or some BS and then "died" but is not back in like the Stone age, writing the bat symbol on a cave.and super man, I just don't like him or Clark Kent as characters.
Originally posted by Voyeur
No, what would be common sense is that you can stay the entire span of the rest of the game if you wanted with in the pocket universe. And your magic is still untapped. What don't you guys get? you can QQ all you want about it but it stands, when you drink Chateau Romani, you have infinite magic. I'm sick of this lack of unyielding to the obvious. It's like converting Catholics to Atheism.
As for the Cape. It turns you invisible/invulnerable/intangible. It's feats consist of you can wear it any where and every where, any situation where you should be taking damage, you no longer do. You can use it against bosses, including Ganondorf, and take no damage and be able to walk through them.I'm sorry but that is what the item does. Blame Canon for making the item. It's the equivalent of having a hack to never let your magic drop. Everyone here allows their character to go beyond obvious game mechanics/game play, oh but watch out and god forbid if Link does. So hypocriticial.
Ime sorry to say but TGE is actually right, nothing actually states and no logical deduction makes that milk give Link infitnite magic, i dont care if you go to sleep over night while leaving Link in the pocket universe, you cant claim it gives him that much energy when its never said it does, you would have to prove it gives infinte amounts .Theres no evidence that it gives him infnite, merely it gives him enough for the games time period.
So its not actually got any canon feats? only gameplay? I see.......
And you dont understand, nobody gives a shit about allowing Link going beyond gameplay mechanics, problem is ,no logic dictates and no rule would give Link infnite magic ,that item doesnt state it, nor does the game display it.