Originally posted by Avlon
You forgot that Flash and Zoom have special conditions to NOT affect the environment due to their powers.Superman does not...though he has been getting better (such as him being able to suppress sonic booms now) which was an issue in earlier arcs.
thats no excuse, are you saying that superman would let flash die instead of aiding him. Thats ridiculous and by the way, didnt captain marvel go the speed of light with jay.
Originally posted by carver9
All of that is space flight and that SAME author said that superman can only achieve light speed IN SPACE.How about I help you all out, Zoom and Flash is fighting at light speed and superman was appearing as a statue, wasnt even moving, he couldnt even aid his partner in the fight which was going light speed. He appeared as a statue.
Wally is faster then clark, but excluding that supes has already traced wally moving at top speeds and has even kept a even pace with him. Supes has already stated he cannot go FTL on the earths surface because of the damage he would cause to the atmosphere.
Originally posted by kevdude
Well to be honest Superman used a Mother Box to fly to the Source Wall, Superman or Gladiator would first die then reach the Wall. The other stuff Bada showed is correct tho 😉
And every scan that bada put up every writer said that superman CANT achieve light speed so those scans are pointless. They did say that he can achieve it through space though but then they even said that he would struggle to do it. How about someone posting that scan when doomsday was on earths moon, superman admitted space= speed.
Originally posted by Avlon
What are you talking about?
Flash was getting wailed on by zoom and your saying that superman didnt want to go light speed due to the population but flash was needing his help. I also asked you if you seen the comic, didnt captain marvel achieve light speed on earth, if he could do it why cant superman do it? Hell black adam went mach 500 so whats stopping superman.
Originally posted by carver9
I guess mrs. marvel can achieve light speed since she has done the same thing. I guess wonder woman was lying when she said that it would take superman minutes to travel 22000 miles, or how about ALL of the on panel showings besides space flight that has him going far below the speed of light.
Because of what AV has already shown, and for the record has Glads gone FTL on the earths atmoshpere either.
Originally posted by carver9
Flash was getting wailed on by zoom and your saying that superman didnt want to go light speed due to the population but flash was needing his help.
Supes doesn't have the speed force suppression that Flash does. Besides.. you don't need anywhere near light speed to get around Earth quickly.
Originally posted by carver9
I also asked you if you seen the comic, didnt captain marvel achieve light speed on earth, if he could do it why cant superman do it? Hell black adam went mach 500 so whats stopping superman.
As far as I remember...Jay is somewhere around the sound barrier speed wise. Not light speed. Never saw that comic though. As for speed...Supes has been in multiple cities at the same time with speed alone...so yea...he's fast.
Originally posted by Makky
He was sun amped, there was no evidence of a source box present for anything.
Yeah he was sup amped but nobody can reach the Fourth World without a Mother Box, unless Darkseid himself boomed them to the Source Wall which makes no sense. Superman had the Mother Box on him the whole time. The bubbles are a trademark of a Mother Box being used. Why do you think DS started having trouble with his speech? It was being used on him. Another story of Supes being majorly prepped against DS which then led him to snap and nearly take over everything in FC.
Originally posted by Avlon
Supes doesn't have the speed force suppression that Flash does. Besides.. you don't need anywhere near light speed to get around Earth quickly.As far as I remember...Jay is somewhere around the sound barrier speed wise. Not light speed. Never saw that comic though. As for speed...Supes has been in multiple cities at the same time with speed alone...so yea...he's fast.
I agree, supes is FAST AS HELL but he's not even close to reaching the speed of light if we go by on panel proof. Now if you can do me a favor, post the scan of doomsday being on the moon and superman flying to the moon to get him.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree, supes is FAST AS HELL but he's not even close to reaching the speed of light if we go by on panel proof. Now if you can do me a favor, post the scan of doomsday being on the moon and superman flying to the moon to get him.
No clue what scan you are bringing up.
You also left out that Flash borrowed speed to achieve that and the strangest part of that scan is that Flash/Zoom's own bodies seem to be moving at different speeds...ie...their arms/punches are moving far slower than they are traveling.
Originally posted by Avlon
No clue what scan you are bringing up.You also left out that Flash borrowed speed to achieve that and the strangest part of that scan is that Flash/Zoom's own bodies seem to be moving at different speeds...ie...their arms/punches are moving far slower than they are traveling.
It said that they were punching a thousand times per second
