Gladiator vs. Darkseid

Yeah because Gladz goes the fast in 90% of his showings its not only out of character for him to do so but I dont remember him doing anything near that ever again get that bull out of here. Supermans speed combat feats are more legit like a said you make no sense. Darkseid wins easily.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah because Gladz goes the fast in 90% of his showings its not only out of character for him to do so but I dont remember him doing anything near that ever again get that bull out of here. Supermans speed combat feats are more legit like a said you make no sense. Darkseid wins easily.

I still say Glads wins BUT you may be correct about me using those speeds for glads as I'm not sure how often he uses this. But it is NOT pis because this is within his powers depending on his confidence. But if it is rare like you say my question is this...

We are supposed to take the characters in a debate as there Best. Since when did every hero always fight at 100%? Is it relevant that he didn't do this as much as others? Well for Glads the answer would be different because his powers are similar to how the hulks work expect is based on confidence so I am not sure that you should be able to dismiss Gladiators feats at his best... I mean they are not going to fight there hardest every fight. But the rules are to take them at best showings so... Glad I think would win this.. Maybe he has only been that confident 90% of the time. But we should take him at his best I think. As long as its not pis. And that is not pis for glads. Thats within his powers.. He gets more powerful with confidence and hulk gets stronger with anger.

If we didnt take a charactor at there best based on how often he might use a certain power than this would be in conflict with the rule that says we take each charactor at there best unless otherwise stated by the poster of the thread.

Originally posted by Vanlore
I still say Glads wins BUT you may be correct about me using those speeds for glads as I'm not sure how often he uses this. But it is NOT pis because this is within his powers depending on his confidence. But if it is rare like you say my question is this...

We are supposed to take the characters in a debate as there Best. Since when did every hero always fight at 100%? Is it relevant that he didn't do this as much as others? Well for Glads the answer would be different because his powers are similar to how the hulks work expect is based on confidence so I am not sure that you should be able to dismiss Gladiators feats at his best... I mean they are not going to fight there hardest every fight. But the rules are to take them at best showings so... Glad I think would win this.. Maybe he has only been that confident 90% of the time. But we should take him at his best I think. As long as its not pis. And that is not pis for glads. Thats within his powers.. He gets more powerful with confidence and hulk gets stronger with anger.

It's CIS for him not to do it in most of his fights. If he did do it or if flash did it in all of his fights the comics would be like 3 panels. The writers selectively use powers to make the story. If they faithfully followed the power sets and feats they've shown the characters to have then the comics wouldn't be very good because a few people would just instantly be killing all the bad guys.

So we go by what he's done once and use it as him fighting at his best? I rather not his average showings are what I go by.

Originally posted by iceman24567
So Gladz going 100 times the speed of light his him at his best? It still is out of character for him to do so or its PIS because he doesnt do it in 90% of his fights or this would be spite. Darkseid wins in my opinion

Doing something 10% of the time throughout a comic does not mean it is plot induced stupidity. It just means it is rare.. You know like the rare times they fight at there very best?...

PIS is defined by allot of things. It has to do with the context and details of a particular character. Take the hulk for example. He supposedly had unknown strength. And as the comics came out he did more and more amazing things. And it was not piss for him because his powers were that the madder he got the stronger he got.. Just like Gladiator. The more confident he is the more powerful he is. We are talking the parts were Gladiator was at his highest confidence level so far. It is completely conceivable for glads to move this fast.

Gladiator can fly at speeds rivaling those of starships, and can achieve faster than light speeds in hyperspace at his BASE power. Thats not even him being uber confident.. Light speed or a little over that is about superman's mid or upper level of speed. Not his base like Glads.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
It's CIS for him not to do it in most of his fights. If he did do it or if flash did it in all of his fights the comics would be like 3 panels. The writers selectively use powers to make the story. If they faithfully followed the power sets and feats they've shown the characters to have then the comics wouldn't be very good because a few people would just instantly be killing all the bad guys.

PIS is not just judged on how often something happens thats uber.. It also depends on the situation and the charactor.

I can see your point about how if he could do this than why don't he just do it every fight and win..

So why is this not PIS for Gladiator you ask ?

Yes that would be PIS but for Glads the reason he does not do it every fight is because his confidence is not that high. Just like in some comics the hulk was more mad at times than others and his powers would reflect that. In this fight though we are to take both of them at there best.

There is no Plost induced stupidy here. It is not stupid because his powers are adjusted with his confidnce like the hulk and anger. It would not be stupid for them to do this at all with glads because its about his confidnce. There is no draw back later for him fighting a different foe because the writer has complete control of his confidence.

Writes use these types of powers to avoid PIS.

I would have to say Glads wins.

Alot of people can fly fast that doesnt equal combat speed 😐. How do you know his confidence wasnt at high levels when he did all this? Did he metion it on panel you are assuming too much. I go by on panel feats more than anything we know Gladz Is fast combat wise but Darkseid won't be a statue here on Kmc. Darkseid for the stomp.

Blitzing at near light speed

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7296/hyperspeed11mv.jpg

Blitzing at near light speed AGAIN.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3034/ego067lu.jpg

Moving as if he was in hyper space. His reflexes is moving this fast the entire time, past the speed of light.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8585/hyperspeed35nr.jpg

Darkseid hasnt faced this kind of speed yet. He would get blitzed to death and remember, everything that I posted showed that it was done in gravity, not just space.

That Is not blitzing 😐

Originally posted by iceman24567
That Is not blitzing 😐

It shows that he can operate and light speed and has darkseid ever fought anyone that could move at those speeds and actually HIT THEM.

Originally posted by iceman24567
That Is not blitzing 😐

Originally posted by carver9
It shows that he can operate and light speed and has darkseid ever fought anyone that could move at those speeds and actually HIT THEM.

Originally posted by james2099
Define blitzing for us all.

this isn't even a fight....
Gladiator is good but not that good

Originally posted by kevdude
The Black Racer merely pushed Superman away, he never had any intention of hurting him and never did. Second time he was killed by Imperiex Prime then Kismet sent him back, he never said anything about being weakened and had no sign of being hurt at all, all Kismets doing. There battle was anything but fair, it was straight up yes to the point Superman could win 😂 , Superman/DS even knew this as Darkseid says "You can't beat me, I'm stronger.." Superman "No. Today I'm stronger" meaning of course tricking him and setting him up for a battle he could not win after the force field was up. Half truths are still only that and that's what some of you have been saying, the hole truth is much better. 😱

'merely pushed Superman away'? He hit him with an omnidirectional blast which sent Supes flying and crashing towards Apokolips. The second time he was killed! And it was his own willpower, egged on by Kismet, which brought him back to life. No reference about Kismet healing him was ever brought up. So you're flat out wrong about Superman not being weakened, and you're completely speculating that he cheated during his fight with DS.

Originally posted by james2099
Define blitzing for us all.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
a speed blitz is a combo of attacks performed at high speed that disorients the target as well all pummeling them into submission. usually a victim gets hit from all sides during a speedblits, a bullrush is just a linear series of punches, or a ramming maneuver usually to drive the opponent into a wall or something.

thx

Originally posted by iceman24567
Its not up to me to teach YOU that bull rushing isn't blitzing. Superman blitzes Gladz doesnt tough 😬