dr manhattan & surfer (current) vs thanos

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Originally posted by Nihilist
if doc can see his own fututre, maybe he see's Thanos kicking his as then.
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Originally posted by Naija boy
These are the feats that will enable him to beat thanos? GTFO with this nonsense. Based on anything uve shown here how is he supposed to hurt thanos? Has Manhattan ever faced a telelpath of thanos calibur?

For the record the Doc's never faced any telepaths. But was pretty easy to manipulate emotionally. Which is why I say Thanos wins via mindrape.

And if you haven't read the comic yet, I definitely recommend it. Only 12 issues. IMO its Moore's best work, along with For the Man Who Has Everything, and Galan tells me his run on Swamp Thing (though I haven't read that personally.)

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Originally posted by Enyalus
For the record the Doc's never faced any telepaths. But was pretty easy to manipulate emotionally. Which is why I say Thanos wins via mindrape.

And if you haven't read the comic yet, I definitely recommend it. Only 12 issues. IMO its Moore's best work, along with For the Man Who Has Everything, and Galan tells me his run on Swamp Thing (though I haven't read that personally.)

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Yeah its next on my reading list.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
It amazes me how people seem to not understand physics here....or logic.
UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE ****ING DAY!

none of anyone in any of the threads really know how to apply common sense, academic knowledge of math, physics, science, time or space, NOTHING, they know jack shit.

they're idiot trolls. (this is a some what hypocritical statement, as I tend to troll except for when I'm not trolling)

this isn't really a personal shot at anyone in particular or you guys. So yeah :]

Thanos solos....lol

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Also saying that he has no feats is really dumb. He's shown he can reconstruct the smallest things as easily as you or I breath. He's shown he can make gigantic objects out of sand or w/e. To assume that for some reason his powers have a limit when it's stated in the comic they don't is a really bad argument.

Don't argue with these guys.

I bet most of them are teenage kids who have "Thanos FANBOY love".

That's the whole thing with Thanos.
It's why people cry about feats.

Thanos is a very POPULAR villian, why means he is move over exposed than a guy like Doc.

Of course POPULAR guys are going to have more feats, that's why the writers write about them more, because they are POPULAR.

It's like the whole Bruce Lee arugment.

Americans thought that Bruce Lee was the greatest martial arts guy in the world. Where actually, there were guys in other countries more skilled than him.

There is enough feats about Doc that proves he would beat Thanos.

I bet they same guys who think Thanos would beat GOD Spawn as well.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Yeah its next on my reading list.

i have it if anyone needs it. I upload pretty fast.

The argument that Doc wins 'cause he's got uber matter manipulation skills is idiotic. Considering that Thanos has it, too. 馃槵 Not to mention him having total molecular control over his body, being an Eternal and all.

Now, the argument of "how's Thanos going to hurt Doctor Manhattan" is a much better one. And my answer to that would be, he doesn't need to. Mindrape wins it. Easy peasy.

Originally posted by SouthSpawn
Don't argue with these guys.

I bet most of them are teenage kids who have "Thanos FANBOY love".

That's the whole thing with Thanos.
It's why people cry about feats.

Thanos is a very POPULAR villian, why means he is move over exposed than a guy like Doc.

Of course POPULAR guys are going to have more feats, that's why the writers write about them more, because they are POPULAR.

It's like the whole Bruce Lee arugment.

Americans thought that Bruce Lee was the greatest martial arts guy in the world. Where actually, there were guys in other countries more skilled than him.

There is enough feats about Doc that proves he would beat Thanos.

I bet they same guys who think Thanos would beat GOD Spawn as well.

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Originally posted by SouthSpawn
Don't argue with these guys.

I bet most of them are teenage kids who have "Thanos FANBOY love".

That's the whole thing with Thanos.
It's why people cry about feats.

Thanos is a very POPULAR villian, why means he is move over exposed than a guy like Doc.

Of course POPULAR guys are going to have more feats, that's why the writers write about them more, because they are POPULAR.

It's like the whole Bruce Lee arugment.

Americans thought that Bruce Lee was the greatest martial arts guy in the world. Where actually, there were guys in other countries more skilled than him.

There is enough feats about Doc that proves he would beat Thanos.

I bet they same guys who think Thanos would beat GOD Spawn as well.

lulz "thanos fanboy love". U try to talk down to people as teenage kids(which is a really pitiful attempt at insulting) when ur arguments have the coherence of a toddlers. Pathetic. Ur analogy is so off its not even funny. This isnt about a lack of knowledge (like was the case with bruce lee), its about a lack of existence.

This debate is not based on thanos bein popular or having more feats its about him having FAR BETTER feats. If ur too blind to see it thats on you. Dr manhattan never showed anything to let us believe he could transmute someone with the slightest form of matter manip let alone someone who has it on a high level and has complete control of his molecular structure. Seriously do u think that those feats shown are impressive when considering characters on this level? Trasnmuting glass, phasing, making duplicates of himself? Thats supposed to help him defeat thanos?. Surfer has evolved entire planets and shown molecular manipulation on a planetar scale on different occasions. Yet u can somehow post scans of Dr manhattan reforming a glass and expect us to be blown away. Ridiculous indeed.

And thanos against Godspawn is absolutely irrelevant here as Godspawn and thanos are not on the same level

Originally posted by Enyalus
The argument that Doc wins 'cause he's got uber matter manipulation skills is idiotic. Considering that Thanos has it, too. 馃槵 Not to mention him having total molecular control over his body, being an Eternal and all.

Now, the argument of "how's Thanos going to hurt Doctor Manhattan" is a much better one. And my answer to that would be, he doesn't need to. Mindrape wins it. Easy peasy.


What evidence do you have that Doctor Manhattan is susceptible to mental manipulation? His mind is so powerful it exists outside of a physical shell and outside of time. He compares even the smartest humans intellect to an ant (or was it termite?). It's really a moot argument anyway to put dr. m in a versus thing. If he already knows everything that's going to happen it seems unlikely someone would be able to hurt him, if that is even possible. We know nuclear weapons don't hurt him, walking on the sun has no effect on him, physical attacks have no effect on him, destroying his physical body with his own power has no effect on him (it reforms instantly). And Eternals can still have their bodies destroyed, they just come back to life once they leave the spirit chamber thing.
in my opinion theres not enough info on dr. m to put him in a versus thread.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
What evidence do you have that Doctor Manhattan is susceptible to mental manipulation?

He was manipulated into thinking he could've given his ex cancer, then lost his cool and went to Mars. Thanos is at bare minimum an Xavier-level telepath, considering he's easily bested Moondragon w/ Mind Gem in a mental duel, and she's taken it to Xavier.

And the Doc sees past present and future of himself simultaneously. He sees it. Can't change it. So seeing whats going to happen is really irrelevant here.

Originally posted by Naija boy
lulz "thanos fanboy love". U try to talk down to people as teenage kids(which is a really pitiful attempt at insulting) when ur arguments have the coherence of a toddlers. Pathetic. Ur analogy is so off its not even funny. This isnt about a lack of knowledge (like was the case with bruce lee), its about a lack of existence.

This debate is not based on thanos bein popular or having more feats its about him having FAR BETTER feats. If ur too blind to see it thats on you. Dr manhattan never showed anything to let us believe he could transmute someone with the slightest form of matter manip let alone someone who has it on a high level and has complete control of his molecular structure. Seriously do u think that those feats shown are impressive when considering characters on this level? Trasnmuting glass, phasing, making duplicates of himself? Thats supposed to help him defeat thanos?. Surfer has evolved entire planets and shown molecular manipulation on a planetar scale on different occasions. Yet u can somehow post scans of Dr manhattan reforming a glass and expect us to be blown away. Ridiculous indeed.

And thanos against Godspawn is absolutely irrelevant here as Godspawn and thanos are not on the same level

The eternals only have control over their body on an atomic level. Dr. Manhattan has control over sub-atomic structures. you're assuming just b/c thanos is thanos that his body can't be blown apart....yet other eternals have been destroyed by particle accelerators. Thanos does have some awesome feats...b/c they've been making comics about him for a very long time. Dr. M. had a very few issues to explore his new found abilities. And in those few issues his control was said to be complete over sub atomic particles and he was said to have limitless power. But then again i mean thanos is thanos so he automatically wins. And just b/c none of the other comic book characters use their matter manipulation to turn people into rocks or rip their neutrons apart doesn't mean dr. m. wouldn't. The Watchmen world is a lot more realistic when it comes to fighting with ones abilities (when it comes to doing what is necessary).

Surfer is pretty much a non-factor for Thanos.

This match boils down to Dr. Manhattan VS Thanos.

The question is: What could Thanos do to harm Dr. Manhattan? Even if Thanos somehow generate tachyons and attack Dr. Manhattan with them, the effects are temporary. And Dr. Manhattan will instantaneously recover if Thanos tries dissolving him.

On the other hand, Dr. Manhattan has power over molecules. He can literally blow up any solid matter. And AFAIK, Thanos is made up of molecules and cells. If Dr. Manhattan fights with full intent, he blows up Thanos into smithereens.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
On the other hand, Dr. Manhattan has power over molecules. He can literally blow up any solid matter. And AFAIK, Thanos is made up of molecules and cells. If Dr. Manhattan fights with full intent, he blows up Thanos into smithereens.

If the power of a black hole couldn't crush Thanos into tiny bits of sub-atomic parts, what makes you think the good doctor has the power to?

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
And just b/c none of the other comic book characters use their matter manipulation to turn people into rocks or rip their neutrons apart doesn't mean dr. m. wouldn't. The Watchmen world is a lot more realistic when it comes to fighting with ones abilities (when it comes to doing what is necessary).

Funny you should mention this. Thanos has turned living beings into rock before...one of them was a skrull, who have control over their molecules as well.

Originally posted by Enyalus
If the power of a black hole couldn't crush Thanos into tiny bits of sub-atomic parts, what makes you think the good doctor has the power to?

Because gravity crushing you is different from someone being able to control the very essence of what makes you an organic being.

Originally posted by Enyalus
If the power of a black hole couldn't crush Thanos into tiny bits of sub-atomic parts, what makes you think the good doctor has the power to?
and if the dr. survived being broken down to atoms, what makes you think thanos can hurt him?

Originally posted by Starscream M
and if the dr. survived being broken down to atoms, what makes you think thanos can hurt him?

I suggest you read my posts. 馃槵 'Cause I haven't suggested anything with respect to Thanos physically hurting him. Thanks. 馃檪

Originally posted by Enyalus
I suggest you read my posts. 馃槵 'Cause I haven't suggested anything with respect to Thanos physically hurting him. Thanks. 馃檪
my bad.