Originally posted by Starscream M
1. he has shown limited transmutation? yeah, cuz he was only in 1 issue. but neither has there been a limit to his transmutation...ie I can't say he can transmute better than thanos, and you can't say thanos can transmute better than Dr. m.
Nonsense.Yes Due to manhattans limited appearances and lack of feats, we cant truly determine the limits of his abilities, this is clear. Hence he shouldnt be placed in vs matches in the first place. But since he has been placed in this environment we have to use the criteria with which we determine combatants powerlevels i.e feats. And based on that Thanos transmutation>>>>Dr Ms
. could surfer teleport? yes, like you said. but certainly not with the ease that Dr. M has demonstrated. or else why would surfer travel on the board...I'm sure instantaneous is faster than whatever speed he gets on the board.
Surfers board has shown to be faster than teleportation. Also its an extremely false assumption that teleportation is difficult for surfer. He has shown a much wider range of teleportation than manhattan there has never been any indication of it being difficult. ITs simpl one of the many methods he has for transportation
. how does surfer travel through time? Im asking seriously because that seems a bit of a godlike power to me. and why doesnt he change the past then?
Surfers time travels multiple ways. He has shown to peel back the layers of time,break through the time barrier with his speed,and simply move thru different time periods. Also he doesnt change the past because he knows that it has serious repercussionsIn marvel anyways
again, surfer can create copies of himself? why doesn't he do that in battles against tough opponents...certainly would be helpful to have multiple surfers rather than just one if you're fighting thanos, wouldnt you agree?
Surfer doesnt use some of these tactics in battle mainly because of CIS. Also in no way to a multiple surfer=multiple manhattans. Surfer himself is far above manhattan whether based on feats or solely powersets.
unproven works both ways. I can't say with absolute certainty he can't be destroyed, and neither can you say he can be. we do know he has reformed from atoms and survived without a body.
As i said, once he is placed within the KMC environment feats hold way. Manhattan has shown no resistance to such attacks that work on a beyond physical and mystical level
I never said telepathy won't work. But it certainly isn't a given that it will since his consciousness is so different from human minds.
He has consciousness. thats enough. Thanos telepathy has overwhelmed other high level telepaths as well as beings that werent human as well so he actually has evidence of such working. On the other hand Manhattan has shown no resistance to such attacks once aain. And since this is a vs match, feats once again hold sway.
8. nice, too bad they don't do so more often then, as surfer and thanos are pretty much always trying to destroy with their blasts. it would seem more efficient to destroy with just a thought if they were so capable.
They have displayed their matter manipulating abiliteis more than enough times to show they are capable. Their blasts have a greater damage output as they are often facing beings against whom matter manip is ineffective. Doesnt change the fact that they CAN do so when they choose to. And yet they do not even have close to "limitles power"
The silly argument of "limitless power" does not even work in regards to people with far higher feats and displays of power than Dr manhattan.