Aizen vs. Trunks

Started by XanatosForever16 pages
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Uhm....you didnt actually overcome my argument at all. You just side stepped it. :-/ your skills are unfortunately lacking.

How did he sidestep it? 😬

He didn't. LDH is just trying to get out of replying since he knows he lost

Because that's what it is.

A metal sword.

It just also has a spirit inside it.

No it isn't. It's made of Rietsu or whatever. Unless you think that Ichigo pulls a metal sword out of his ass every time he turn's into a shinigami. 😬

and thats a huge ass sword that would hurt like hell

Originally posted by Endless Mike
He didn't. LDH is just trying to get out of replying since he knows he lost

He didn't side step it? He said Trunks would break aizen and his sword before aizen saw it coming..... despite the fact i said aizen would be starting off with his sword drawn. I'm assuming he would be doing this since he is leagues beyond trunks in the brains category, and strategic planning category. So basically he's just completely ignoring the whole Aizen's sword hypnotizes you and you can't see through it. This happens as soon as you see the sword. So as soon as Trunks flew in at super speed or was anywhere near being able to see Aizens sword he gets hypnotized and ends up doing w/e Aizen makes him. You guys are seriously ignorant. You have yet to ever explain how trunks gets out of the hypnosis besides saying "HE IS DBZ HE IS TEH L337 HE PWNS WITH HIS DRAGON BALLZ YAY!". So don't say I'm hiding or w/e. I posed a question, no one came up with a way Trunks gets past Aizens zanpaktou. Besides saying that it's metal and can't cut trunks....the swords made of spiritual energy that if were released in it's full size would be much larger than a sky scraper. Or do normal steel swords do that now a days? Idiots.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
He didn't side step it? He said Trunks would break aizen and his sword before aizen saw it coming..... despite the fact i said aizen would be starting off with his sword drawn.

You're not the thread starter, and this was never stated by the thread starter, bro. 😐

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
I'm assuming he would be doing this since he is leagues beyond trunks in the brains category, and strategic planning category.

I'll give you that Aizen is a better evil genius, however, Trunks is leagues beyond Aizen in book smarts. He was CEO on of the worlds largest corporations at 15, and invented some crazy futuristic shit. He is like Bulma.

If we were to measure IQ's, of course Trunks's would be higher than Aizen's.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
So basically he's just completely ignoring the whole Aizen's sword hypnotizes you and you can't see through it.

Nope. I've already addressed that. You chose to ignore the fact that Aizen and all of bleach characters collapse when faced with higher spirit energy being flexed. Something DBZ characters can feel better than Bleach characters, but they don't collapse from the feeling. Not to mention what other's have stated, he could just fire in all directions, in waaay less than a second, and destroy Aizen anyway. 😐

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
This happens as soon as you see the sword.

Great, Trunks is hypnotized, realizes it quickly, gets pissed, turns super saiyan, and Aizen passes out like a sissy. Or, Trunks, not knowing what is occurring, turns Super Saiyan in his illusion and inadvertently destroys the illusion because Aizen is on the ground, drooling.

This, of course, assumes the fallacious idea that Aizen would even last greater than a second, which wouldn't happen.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
So as soon as Trunks flew in at super speed or was anywhere near being able to see Aizens sword he gets hypnotized and ends up doing w/e Aizen makes him.

Right, because Aizen would definitely know in time to bring out is sword, and use his spirit power to activate his sword, while devising a hypno-verse that is intelligent enough to trick Trunks well enough. Oh yeah, your forgot that Aizen doesn't even come close to standing a chance against Trunk's pure raw energy.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
You guys are seriously ignorant.

Just the opposite, actually. You seem to be the only one in that category.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
You have yet to ever explain how trunks gets out of the hypnosis besides saying "HE IS DBZ HE IS TEH L337 HE PWNS WITH HIS DRAGON BALLZ YAY!".

It's been explained more than once already. Your refusal to acknowledge it is your own.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
So don't say I'm hiding or w/e.

You're not hiding. You're just being stubborn and specifically ignorant on purpose. I guess it is fun for you or something.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
I posed a question, no one came up with a way Trunks gets past Aizens zanpaktou.

Your reading comprehension problem is lacking, sir.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Besides saying that it's metal and can't cut trunks....the swords made of spiritual energy that if were released in it's full size would be much larger than a sky scraper. Or do normal steel swords do that now a days? Idiots.

No. That's someone being retarded. One thing is sure. They are stronger than steel. However, Trunks's sword greater exceeds any Zanpakutou in durability. It is probably on a scale of millions to billions of times more durable. 😐

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're not the thread starter, and this was never stated by the thread starter, bro. 😐

I'll give you that Aizen is a better evil genius, however, Trunks is leagues beyond Aizen in book smarts. He was CEO on of the worlds largest corporations at 15, and invented some crazy futuristic shit. He is like Bulma.

If we were to measure IQ's, of course Trunks's would be higher than Aizen's.

Nope. I've already addressed that. You chose to ignore the fact that Aizen and all of bleach characters collapse when faced with higher spirit energy being flexed. Something DBZ characters can feel better than Bleach characters, but they don't collapse from the feeling. Not to mention what other's have stated, he could just fire in all directions, in waaay less than a second, and destroy Aizen anyway. 😐

Great, Trunks is hypnotized, realizes it quickly, gets pissed, turns super saiyan, and Aizen passes out like a sissy. Or, Trunks, not knowing what is occurring, turns Super Saiyan in his illusion and inadvertently destroys the illusion because Aizen is on the ground, drooling.

This, of course, assumes the fallacious idea that Aizen would even last greater than a second, which wouldn't happen.

Right, because Aizen would definitely know in time to bring out is sword, and use his spirit power to activate his sword, while devising a hypno-verse that is intelligent enough to trick Trunks well enough. Oh yeah, your forgot that Aizen doesn't even come close to standing a chance against Trunk's pure raw energy.

Just the opposite, actually. You seem to be the only one in that category.

It's been explained more than once already. Your refusal to acknowledge it is your own.

You're not hiding. You're just being stubborn and specifically ignorant on purpose. I guess it is fun for you or something.

Your reading comprehension problem is lacking, sir.

No. That's someone being retarded. One thing is sure. They are stronger than steel. However, Trunks's sword greater exceeds any Zanpakutou in durability. It is probably on a scale of millions to billions of times more durable. 😐

lol every single response of yours is based on your opinion and not facts. You say his sword is more durable why? What proof is there? Your only answers are to assume that dbz is better b/c it's dbz without any actual proof. It's pathetic. I'm going to quit coming to this thread b/c you have still yet to answer my question. You have no way of actually proving trunks spiritual pressure is greater than anyone in bleach for all we know chads is stronger. If you want to actual try and debate this hit me up in pm but don't if it's just going to be "trunks is stronger b/c he's from dbz". I don't like ignorance.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
lol every single response of yours is based on your opinion and not facts. You say his sword is more durable why? What proof is there?

I already gave it to you but your reading comprehension is so poor that you still don't realize why.

Would you like me to ...uh...like...quote myself for you? That's really lame, bro. Now what was a certain poster saying earlier about "sidestepping."

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Your only answers are to assume that dbz is better b/c it's dbz without any actual proof.

De ja vu.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
It's pathetic.

You're trolling now. You have yet to quote a specific point I've made and refute it. (It's because it's impossible. Strangely, I'm using "feats" from DBZ and Bleach.)

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
I'm going to quit coming to this thread b/c you have still yet to answer my question.

You mean you have yet to actually read my posts.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
You have no way of actually proving trunks spiritual pressure is greater than anyone in bleach for all we know chads is stronger.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

I laughed pretty hard after reading the above. Wow, dude. You really don't know how to do this. It's like you haven't read anything I've typed, or watched and read anything DB related.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
If you want to actual try and debate this hit me up in pm but don't if it's just going to be "trunks is stronger b/c he's from dbz". I don't like ignorance.

Wow, dude. You're crazy n'stuff.

There's nothing left to cover, dude. You don't read, don't refute, and pretend that this was even a fair debate. It's obvious that you don't know anything DBZ related and know very little of anything Bleach related.

Everyone in here is telling you that this is a retarded match. To top it off, Endless Mike gives it to Trunks. (If you know anything about Endless Mike, you'd realize that he can't be wrong. Ever. 😐 )

Originally posted by dadudemon
I already gave it to you but your reading comprehension is so poor that you still don't realize why.

Would you like me to ...uh...like...quote myself for you? That's really lame, bro. Now what was a certain poster saying earlier about "sidestepping."

De ja vu.

You're trolling now. You have yet to quote a specific point I've made and refute it. (It's because it's impossible. Strangely, I'm using "feats" from DBZ and Bleach.)

You mean you have yet to actually read my posts.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

I laughed pretty hard after reading the above. Wow, dude. You really don't know how to do this. It's like you haven't read anything I've typed, or watched and read anything DB related.

Wow, dude. You're crazy n'stuff.

There's nothing left to cover, dude. You don't read, don't refute, and pretend that this was even a fair debate. It's obvious that you don't know anything DBZ related and know very little of anything Bleach related.

Everyone in here is telling you that this is a retarded match. To top it off, Endless Mike gives it to Trunks. (If you know anything about Endless Mike, you'd realize that he can't be wrong. Ever. 😐 )


lol so wait you never explained how he beats aizens hypnosis. you never explained why aizen wouldn't start the fight with his sword out, since that is how aizen fights so it's in character for him. you never explained anything other than "dbz is faster stronger trunks wins cuz i luv him!". Aizen hypnosis is perfect and unbreakable. and if your in it you don't realize it's an illusion until he wants you too. Aizens sword can't cut trunks b/c you think its made of metal? That shows you are ignorant. It's made of spiritual pressure that if made physical would be several hundred feet tall....can trunks use his ki to make physical objects? Nope. He can just blast stuff with it. Aizen can do that too. Trunks ki is greater than aizens b/c it breaks buildings when he goes ssj? Aizen lives in a spirit world and hides his spiritual pressure. The buildings there are made of spiritual energy, as is everything there. So why would the buildings crumble? See your argument is based on your ignorance and fanboyism. And i don't care what endless mike thinks. Unless he explains how trunks gets out of aizens hypnosis. And saying he does b/c he's from dbz and stronger isn't a good argument. it's not an argument at all.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
lol so wait you never explained how he beats aizens hypnosis.

Did. 😐

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
you never explained why aizen wouldn't start the fight with his sword out, since that is how aizen fights so it's in character for him.

Wrong. Show me one fight from the manga that he started a fight with his sword out. In fact, you'll find the exact opposite. You're such a newb. 😉

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
you never explained anything other than "dbz is faster stronger trunks wins cuz i luv him!".

Did. Many hundreds of words were typed. You can't read. 😐

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Aizen hypnosis is perfect and unbreakable.

Unbreakable...until Aizen is disabled. 😐 Which is what everyone has been trying to tell you, son.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
and if your in it you don't realize it's an illusion until he wants you too.

Right, Trunks, a genius, would never realize he was in an illusion...an illusion that wouldn't happen to begin with.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Aizens sword can't cut trunks b/c you think its made of metal?

No. You're so bad at this, bro. Okay, I'll bite. Quote me where I said it was made of metal. 😐

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
That shows you are ignorant.

You have a reality perception problem. You're horrible at this, dude. An absolute retard when it comes to logic.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
It's made of spiritual pressure

Wrong. Dude, are you trolling me? I mean, you obviously know so little about each...

Seriously, are you a troll? Surely someone isn't as much of an idiot as your are, without it being on purpose. That would be a classic troll scenario, if you are just playing. PM me your answer. I promise not to disclose your answer.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
that if made physical would be several hundred feet tall....

Wow. You've got so many things mixed up, it's no wonder you have no clue what I've been talking about.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
can trunks use his ki to make physical objects? Nope.

Wow. Really? I didn't know that a non-magical DB character couldn't do that. Thank you so very much for enlightening me.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
He can just blast stuff with it. Aizen can do that too.

Correct, sir. We've seen level 90 and above techniques in the manga. However, none of them can scale to DB capabilities, not even close. (I know that you're probably crying or hitting your keyboard after reading that,...but you can stop crying because Aizen is still cool.)

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Trunks ki is greater than aizens b/c it breaks buildings when he goes ssj?

I think you're getting closer to reality. The energy the Bleach characters display are not anywhere near what most DB fighters are capable of. Seriously, it's like what Ulq said to Ichigo when he did a second release, however, it is much much greater than that.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Aizen lives in a spirit world and hides his spiritual pressure.

No he doesn't hide his spiritual pressure. You silly newb. You don't even know what spiritual pressure is. That much is obvious. Spiritual pressure, known as reiatsu, is kind of like "flexing" your Reiryoku. It's what is created when a Bleach character releases some of their spirit energy...such as powering up like Captain Yamamoto did. It's remarkably similar to a DB character powering up...their Ki, or spirit energy, is felt and it even frightens or shocks the DB characters, but, they never collapse from it.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
The buildings there are made of spiritual energy, as is everything there.

You mean, spirit particles, newb.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
So why would the buildings crumble?

Right. Why WOULD they? Tell Chad, who was a physical being, that he can't destroy those buildings. You tell him, man. Tell him.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
See your argument is based on your ignorance and fanboyism.

Just the opposite, actually. You are the biggest fanboy idiot I've ever ahd the "pleasure" to have a conversation with. Your idiocy and ignorance knows no bounds. You barely know ANYTHING about Bleach and still, you know almost nothing about DB. Why are you even posting here? I still think it's simply to troll.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
And i don't care what endless mike thinks.

You should. He's not an idiot like you.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Unless he explains how trunks gets out of aizens hypnosis.

He doesn't need to. It's already been explained.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
And saying he does b/c he's from dbz and stronger isn't a good argument. it's not an argument at all.

Explain that to Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez who almost passed out at Aizen's reiatsu being flexed in his direction. 😐

And here's an extra one for good measure. ---->😐

your explanation for each is trunks can blow up planets and fly fast! he winz teh fightz! aizen wouldn't start with his sword out against an opponent he knows is super fast, powerful, and durable? B/c that makes perfect sense for someone who was a good enough strategic planner to implement a strategy that unfolded over how long? A plan that was all based on him hypnotizing people well in advance. but you're right...trunks wins cause he is dbz! they are so awesome and l337 and they don't need real reasons to win! your reasoning is the type that makes mentally challenged people feel sorry for you. and like i've said if you want to actually come up with a reasonable argument, and not one that shows your butt humping dbz love then talk to me in pm about it. reading your thousand of one line comments is very annoying to have to do. learn to use paragraphs.

Originally posted by niduin
but if people like to debate it why does it matter if YOU think its stupid? just because its obvious to you doesnt mean that 1 you are right and 2 that is fun to debate about, if people enjoy themselvs you shouldnt care and obviously people can see aizen has a chance so dont call them idiots just because is SEEMS obvous that Trunks would dominate be open minded and then decide and whatever you decide just make a case and dont complain that it should not be a debate just enjoy it or leave

The only correct way of dealing with stupidity is mocking it.

Originally posted by dadudemon

No he doesn't hide his spiritual pressure. You silly newb. You don't even know what spiritual pressure is. That much is obvious. Spiritual pressure, known as reiatsu, is kind of like "flexing" your Reiryoku. It's what is created when a Bleach character releases some of their spirit energy...such as powering up like Captain Yamamoto did. It's remarkably similar to a DB character powering up...their Ki, or spirit energy, is felt and it even frightens or shocks the DB characters, but, they never collapse from it.

You mean, spirit particles, newb.

so wait when he fooled everyone into thinking he was dead, while he was still there...he wasn't hiding his spiritual pressure? They just couldn't feel it b/c it's so weak i guess. Your debate skills are top tier though....nearly all of your last comment was not refuting or disproving anything i said, it was just saying no that can't happen newb. Good job guy. ****ing pathetic.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
your explanation for each is trunks can blow up planets and fly fast!

Wait, wait, wait. So how is that not a valid strength for winning? Are you that dense? The answer is obviously, "yes."

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
aizen wouldn't start with his sword out against an opponent he knows is super fast, powerful, and durable?

ZOMG! I see your logic. He did that against EVERYONE else, too! You HAVE to be right. dur

In case you didn't know, because you obviously won't get it, I am being sarcastic.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
B/c that makes perfect sense for someone who was a good enough strategic planner to implement a strategy that unfolded over how long? A plan that was all based on him hypnotizing people well in advance.

ZOMG! Liek, you're a totally correct! Trunks is soooooo stupid. The thread started gave both of them prep time and everything, right? dur

Again, because it will go over your head and everything, I am being sarcastic.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
but you're right...

Wait.

STOP!

Hammer time!

This all you needed to say from the beginning. You could have also added that I am the coolest and teh bestest and mostiosoist n'stuff, but, noooooo, you had to keep typing on your keyboard, embarassing yourself.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
trunks wins cause he is dbz! they are so awesome and l337 and they don't need real reasons to win!

ABOSLUTELY correct. No one, and I mean no one, provided information as to why Trunks would win. It's because we are ALL DBZ fanboys, n'stuff.

dur

Again, that was sarcasm.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
your reasoning

Wait, stop right there. You can't talk about anyone's reasoning until you actually know what it is. I'm sorry, but you're the last person that should attempt to even judge/gadge, another's reasoning. You are, by far, the most illogical person to ever attempt a debate. You don't even know how to read, for goodness sakes. You can barely type and spell as it is, and forget about punctuation.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
is the type that makes mentally challenged people feel sorry for you.

You're obviously referencing yourself.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
and like i've said if you want to actually come up with a reasonable argument,

No, no, no. You don't get to make the assessment. You've got to disprove, with facts, why my reasoning fails. Quote them, point by point, and cite reasons why the fail.

Is Trunk's sword more durable than a character that survived a planet exploding? Dispute that.

Does Trunks have more Energy than Aizen? Debate that.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
and not one that shows your butt humping dbz love then talk to me in pm about it. reading your thousand of one line comments is very annoying to have to do. learn to use paragraphs.

LOL.

You don't know how to use the internets. hahahahahahahahahaha

You thing your "paragraphs" are the correct way to do it? crylaugh

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
so wait when he fooled everyone into thinking he was dead, while he was still there...he wasn't hiding his spiritual pressure? They just couldn't feel it b/c it's so weak i guess. Your debate skills are top tier though....nearly all of your last comment was not refuting or disproving anything i said, it was just saying no that can't happen newb. Good job guy. ****ing pathetic.

Yo usee, you're so *insert negative comment about cognative ability here* that you don't even realize I was criticizing your incorrect use of "spirit pressure" and fallacious use of "spirit energy".

Now tell me, genius, is Aizen "hiding his spirit pressure"? Answer yes or no and then give your reasoning. (This is actually a trap. You shouldn't respond at all to the question the way it was setup. I'm explaining to you what I'm doing beforehand because you're such an idiot that you'll respond to it anyway, again, with something irrelevant. *Waits for another retarded response.* )

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wait, wait, wait. So how is that not a valid strength for winning? Are you that dense? The answer is obviously, "yes."

ZOMG! I see your logic. He did that against EVERYONE else, too! You HAVE to be right. dur

In case you didn't know, because you obviously won't get it, I am being sarcastic.

ZOMG! Liek, you're a totally correct! Trunks is soooooo stupid. The thread started gave both of them prep time and everything, right? dur

Again, because it will go over your head and everything, I am being sarcastic.

Wait.

STOP!

Hammer time!

This all you needed to say from the beginning. You could have also added that I am the coolest and teh bestest and mostiosoist n'stuff, but, noooooo, you had to keep typing on your keyboard, embarassing yourself.

ABOSLUTELY correct. No one, and I mean no one, provided information as to why Trunks would win. It's because we are ALL DBZ fanboys, n'stuff.

dur

Again, that was sarcasm.

Wait, stop right there. You can't talk about anyone's reasoning until you actually know what it is. I'm sorry, but you're the last person that should attempt to even judge/gadge, another's reasoning. You are, by far, the most illogical person to ever attempt a debate. You don't even know how to read, for goodness sakes. You can barely type and spell as it is, and forget about punctuation.

You're obviously referencing yourself.

No, no, no. You don't get to make the assessment. You've got to disprove, with facts, why my reasoning fails. Quote them, point by point, and cite reasons why the fail.

Is Trunk's sword more durable than a character that survived a planet exploding? Dispute that.

Does Trunks have more Energy than Aizen? Debate that.

LOL.

You don't know how to use the internets. hahahahahahahahahaha

You thing your "paragraphs" are the correct way to do it? crylaugh

Yo usee, you're so *insert negative comment about cognative ability here* that you don't even realize I was criticizing your incorrect use of "spirit pressure" and fallacious use of "spirit energy".

Now tell me, genius, is Aizen "hiding his spirit pressure"? Answer yes or no and then give your reasoning. (This is actually a trap. You shouldn't respond at all to the question the way it was setup. I'm explaining to you what I'm doing beforehand because you're such an idiot that you'll respond to it anyway, again, with something irrelevant. *Waits for another retarded response.* )

lol wow you really are a jack ass. I've already explained how Aizen wins. How trunks gets hypnotized, how aizen hid his spiritual pressure, why Trunks can't get out of the hypnosis, how aizen cuts him, beats him, gets him to beat himself. Your rebut has been, trunks blows up planets and moves fast he wins! That's not overcoming my argument. That's you just being a fanboy and believing that trunks can overcome aizens abilities despite evidence to the contrary. Like i've said, if you want to keep spewing your idiotic diatribe do it in p.m. But don't even bother to do that unless you have a real valid argument.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
lol wow you really are a jack ass. I've already explained how Aizen wins.

And I've provided a rebuttal...of which you haven't countered.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
How trunks gets hypnotized,

And you clearly don't understand enough abou DBZ to realize that it would be near impossible for Aizen to Hypnotize Trunks before getting raped.

And there has been more than adequate explanation provided to explain what options Trunks has to get out of it IF it culd occur.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
how aizen hid his spiritual pressure,

Hide his spiritual pressure? Dude, you still don't know what you're talking about.

We've been over this already. It's NOT spiritual pressure.

Also, Aizen can't hide his Reiryoku, just like anyone else in Bleach. The best he can do is wear that cloke Urahara invented. Now, if you're referring to Aizen hypnotizing people to hide, that's true...but he was detected by

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
why Trunks can't get out of the hypnosis,

You mean "why Trunks CAN get out of the hypnosis". Nice try. Just because you say it and believe it, doesn't mean it's logical. It's closer to pathetic and lame.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
how aizen cuts him,

You mean how Aizen couldn't even scratch Trunks with even his best.

Again, because you're a retard, Trunk's sword can slice right through someone who survived a planet, exploding. Not breaking up with a little boom...but exploding with relativistic speeds on the velocity of the explosion. Now, Trunks wanted to test the Goku was truly a Super Saiyan so he powered up into Super Saiyan mode and had Goku do the same. Granted, Trunks said he didn't go all out, but Goku blocked the sword with his finger.

Again....

His finger.

The same sword that is more than strong enough to cut through a planet tanker....WITH UPGRADES.

Now do you understand why you're a retard? I've explained this already to you more than once, however, I didn't connect the dots for you, hoping you would have some sort of epiphany and admit to being an idiot.

Now, you'll just keep posting the same stupid shit, over and over again and never actually debate.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
beats him,

You mea Trunk's beats Aizen.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
gets him to beat himself.

This assumes that Aizen's hypnosis works on anyone and everyone. We haven't seen the full extent of his hypnosis technique. It could very well be that his hypnosis will not work on extremely powerful opponents, and that would negate anything thing hypnosis.

Now, Trunks wouldn't get into hypnosis to begin with. Aizen wouldn't even get the chance to unsheath his sword.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Your rebut has been, trunks blows up planets and moves fast he wins!

LOL.

Not, that's not it. See, I knew you were a retard. How did you even learn how to read while being retarded? My hat is off to you for persevering through your extreme learnind disabilities long enough to learn how to read, not very well, but read. And, you even learned how to use a computer well enough to type and submit a post. Kudos, man. Kudos to you.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
That's not overcoming my argument.

My bad. I thought being durable enough to take large enough to destroy a planet, and being absurdly fast was a great way to win a fight. My bad, homie. My bad.

Oh, wait...

You're a retard.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
That's you just being a fanboy and believing that trunks can overcome aizens abilities despite evidence to the contrary.

Riiiiiight. "Evidence". dur

And I'm being a fanboy because you can't read and don't now anything about DBZ and know very little of Bleach, yet stick to a character that would obviously lose many times over.

Right, I'm the fanboy. ✅

(P.S. I clearly told you, douche, that I like Aizen's character, a lot. Much more so than the whiny Trunk's.)

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Like i've said, if you want to keep spewing your idiotic diatribe do it in p.m.

ZOMG! Liek, you've proven Aizen is better.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
But don't even bother to do that unless you have a real valid argument.

You still continue.

I think I understand, now. You, not knowing much about DBZ, sided with Aizen who you knew just a tad about and thought his Hypnosis was the end all be all. After being shown how retarded that was, you can't let go of your pride. That's cool...but not really. Just admit you were wrong and be done with it. 😉

Here are the points.

1. Trunks would destroy Aizen before Aizen was aware that there was Trunks. Aizen wouldn't even get a chance to use hypnosis.

2. IF Trunks got hypnotized because we want to gimp him to run this hypothetical, then

a. Trunks just raises his power level just a teeny tiny bit, and it is so much greater than Aizen's that Aizen passes out.

b. Trunks fires, in less than fractions of a second, ki blasts in all directions and it utterly destroys Aizen.

c. Trunks doesn't do anything because Aizen's sword could never be strong enough to even scratch Trunks.

3. Trunks just goes super saiyan before charging and Aizen passes out before the fight even starts.

The end.

ok, EVERYONE is wrong in some way or another, first off if the hypnosis is perfect why would trunks blast everywhere, he wouldnt know he is in an illusion that logic is fail, and second aizen doesnt trap them just by showing them the sword, he has to show them the release of it and then after than every time they see the sword they are trapped, but honestly do you think that trunks would just go in and kill him? i mean he is obviously weaker than trunks so he wouldnt think that h has to kill him right away, obviously it deppends on the situation like if the fight was plot driven and not just 2 dudes that want to fight they would talk about the situation and trunks would plee for earth telling aizen the he doesnt have to do it (whatever it might be) but also if it was plot driven in a different way trunks could be increadibly pissed off at aizen and simply anialate him before he knew what happend, or even aizen could be friends with him before the fight. But since the fight had no such circomstances we can assume its just they meet and trunks figures out that aizen is bad and they start fighting, but i do think that aizen would be able to release his sword tho its just how ...well both universes work everone lets theperson they are fighting do whatevery they want and pulling out a sword when its someone this low in comparison trunks probably wouldnt care so much that he pulls out a sword, thats my 2 cents for now

Originally posted by niduin
ok, EVERYONE is wrong in some way or another, first off if the hypnosis is perfect why would trunks blast everywhere, he wouldnt know he is in an illusion that logic is fail,

Gathering Ki and expending it is not part of the five senses. 😐

Originally posted by niduin
and second aizen doesnt trap them just by showing them the sword, he has to show them the release of it and then after than every time they see the sword they are trapped, but honestly do you think that trunks would just go in and kill him? i mean he is obviously weaker than trunks so he wouldnt think that h has to kill him right away, obviously it deppends on the situation like if the fight was plot driven and not just 2 dudes that want to fight they would talk about the situation and trunks would plee for earth telling aizen the he doesnt have to do it (whatever it might be) but also if it was plot driven in a different way trunks could be increadibly pissed off at aizen and simply anialate him before he knew what happend, or even aizen could be friends with him before the fight. But since the fight had no such circomstances we can assume its just they meet and trunks figures out that aizen is bad and they start fighting, but i do think that aizen would be able to release his sword tho its just how ...well both universes work everone lets theperson they are fighting do whatevery they want and pulling out a sword when its someone this low in comparison trunks probably wouldnt care so much that he pulls out a sword, thats my 2 cents for now

Sort of? They fight with their usual behaviors. Trunks doesn't goof around. He goes to town. He's not like Goku.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Gathering Ki and expending it is not part of the five senses. 😐

Sort of? They fight with their usual behaviors. Trunks doesn't goof around. He goes to town. He's not like Goku.

QFT

Aizen's quite a Magnificent Bastard, but he he's not enough of a powerhouse to take Trunks.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Gathering Ki and expending it is not part of the five senses. 😐

Sort of? They fight with their usual behaviors. Trunks doesn't goof around. He goes to town. He's not like Goku.

what does gathering ki have to do with the senses? if you are talking about sensing ki/spirit energy that work either because the shinigami can sence spirit energy too and they were fooled by the illusion.

ok that is true he isnt like goku in those regards, but stil in every fight he has been in he talked to the person for at least a few minuts before fighting, its just how everyone in the dbz verse and bleachverse are, but in the bleach verse the smarter ones are usually up to something while they are talking or something is already happening, and like i said simply pulling out his sword and holding it out would not apear to be any kind of threat so why would trunks stop im from doing it?