Aizen vs. Trunks

Started by LDHZenkai16 pages
LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree. I agree that Aizen's illusion is so awesome that Trunk's would be helpless, until he raized his powerlevel higher than 5.

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That's cool. You can speculate on this and that's what this is about.

However, there are no grounds for that speculation and cannot be used in this "debate". We do know that the highest powers seen are on level with 1/5th the size of a large city.

Now, we do know that Ki and Reiryoku are the same thing. Reiatsu is simply Reiryoku being felt...similar to one feeling another's Ki energy.

We can logically connect the two and consider them the same. This is making a middle ground to we can compare the two "fighters" in this versus.

From there, we have to keep it as logical as possible.

The people from Bleach seem susceptible to large amounts of Reiryoku or Ki being released at once. DBZ characters do this often when getting angry or powering up. The difference...DB characters stand in awe at the power and energy that they feel, but it doesn't hurt them. SO, the DB-verse characters are not susceptible to what the Bleach verse characters are. Aizen has a weakness that Trunk's does not.

This is where we can meet on middle ground. Sure, bleach characters are not shown fighting in "shunpu" or "sonido" for long periods of time. It is more like, "bam" pause.."bam" pause. With one or two sword strikes each clash.

However, in DBZ, they are animated and collisions appear to be in different places at once. Some of the collisions are strong enough to make massive craters in the ground. Even more than that, when Goku and Vegeta fought when Vegeta had the Majin power amp, their fighting alone was tearing about the whole Earth, just from their pure power. I think Goku remarked that they migh destroy the Earth if they kept fighting.


Are you saying he'll go super saiyan five and break Aizens hypnosis? Because if so that's crazy. There's no proof that you can break it no matter how powerful you are. On top of that Super saiyan 4 isn't even canon, let alone the ss5 you just made up...

Quincy Debaser
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
On top of that Super saiyan 4 isn't even canon, let alone the ss5 you just made up...

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Mairuzu Old School Cool
Originally posted by Quincy
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niduin Son of the King

Originally posted by Quincy
I've never seen him do anything like that.

just because he hasnt done it doesnt mean he cant, he has absolute control of all his sences so that the possibilities that he makes him see/hear etc. are endless

yungz22 In shrouded judgement
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Are you saying he'll go super saiyan five and break Aizens hypnosis? Because if so that's crazy. There's no proof that you can break it no matter how powerful you are. On top of that Super saiyan 4 isn't even canon, let alone the ss5 you just made up...

he was talking about power level not ssj level dummy

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by yungz22
he was talking about power level not ssj level dummy

Being able to increase your power by saying you're a five now is such poor writing. Things like that are way I never liked DB. At least in Bleach when Ichigo becomes more powerful it's because he learns something new. In DB they just become more powerful because they need to without any real explanation of how it happened. "Oh he's now SS4 he's 50 times more powerful now just because his hair turned a different color!" Such a lame anime. Also it doesn't matter. Aizens hypnosis is stated as being unbreakable. Until that changes trunks can't win.

Quincy Debaser

dude don't diss DBZ.

dadudemon Senior Member
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Are you saying he'll go super saiyan five and break Aizens hypnosis? Because if so that's crazy. There's no proof that you can break it no matter how powerful you are. On top of that Super saiyan 4 isn't even canon, let alone the ss5 you just made up...
Originally posted by Quincy
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Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Being able to increase your power by saying you're a five now is such poor writing. Things like that are way I never liked DB. At least in Bleach when Ichigo becomes more powerful it's because he learns something new. In DB they just become more powerful because they need to without any real explanation of how it happened. "Oh he's now SS4 he's 50 times more powerful now just because his hair turned a different color!" Such a lame anime. Also it doesn't matter. Aizens hypnosis is stated as being unbreakable. Until that changes trunks can't win.

The powerlevels are useful to determine how strong a fighter are compared to another. I wish Toriyama would have kept them in the manga in a much stricter level and would have eliminated PIS moments like normal people being able to watch the Fight between Goku and cell.

DBZ has sooooo many PIS moments that it's stupid. Reading and watching as a kid, it was awesome...then I turned 11. 😐

I actually want to rewrite all of DBZ to be less stupid.

The Red Senior Member

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Being able to increase your power by saying you're a five now is such poor writing. Things like that are way I never liked DB. At least in Bleach when Ichigo becomes more powerful it's because he learns something new. In DB they just become more powerful because they need to without any real explanation of how it happened. "Oh he's now SS4 he's 50 times more powerful now just because his hair turned a different color!" Such a lame anime. Also it doesn't matter. Aizens hypnosis is stated as being unbreakable. Until that changes trunks can't win.
His hair just grows longer in SSJ4 actually. AND that was explained. You need to freshen up your DB GT skills.

ThunderGodEneru Senior Member

How you can say DBZ has stupid writing and be a fan of Bleach at the same time is just too retarded for words considering Bleach does the exact same friggin thing but with twice the plot-holes. 😬

The Red Senior Member

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
How you can say DBZ has stupid writing and be a fan of Bleach at the same time is just too retarded for words considering Bleach does the exact same friggin thing but with twice the plot-holes. 😬
Exactly. When he said no explanation of the power up. Could someone explain to me how Ichigo went hollow form? I don't remember there being an explanation for that, other than the fact to help Orahime? Seriously.

ThunderGodEneru Senior Member

Because he nearly died or something stupid like that during Urahara's training.

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
How you can say DBZ has stupid writing and be a fan of Bleach at the same time is just too retarded for words considering Bleach does the exact same friggin thing but with twice the plot-holes. 😬

I never said Bleach was written well. It just isn't as horrible as Dragon ball. Everyone here bases their powers off of GT which isn't even canon. And being as theres like 10 plot holes per Dragon ball story I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be possible for Bleach to have twice as many as them >.< My favorite anime/manga is Trigun by the way. Definitely not bleach or DB by any means.

niduin Son of the King

Originally posted by dadudemon
Reading and watching as a kid, it was awesome...then I turned 11. 😐
HAHA 😆 thats awesome, you know whats even funnier? my friend who is 28 is still obsessed with it

niduin Son of the King

i can see that this argument is going nowhere fast and is just irritating people so im done

King Kandy Senior Member
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Being able to increase your power by saying you're a five now is such poor writing. Things like that are way I never liked DB. At least in Bleach when Ichigo becomes more powerful it's because he learns something new. In DB they just become more powerful because they need to without any real explanation of how it happened. "Oh he's now SS4 he's 50 times more powerful now just because his hair turned a different color!" Such a lame anime. Also it doesn't matter. Aizens hypnosis is stated as being unbreakable. Until that changes trunks can't win.

Aizen: Okay you are trapped in my illusion now.

Trunks: That's fine i'll just launch an attack in every direction so you die no matter where you are.

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by King Kandy
Aizen: Okay you are trapped in my illusion now.

Trunks: That's fine i'll just launch an attack in every direction so you die no matter where you are.


He wouldn't know he was in the illusion. It's not like suddenly Aizen would make Trunks see flying cats and dogs or something crazy. He would make him see something that seemed real and believable. I don't see how on earth people are not understanding that. It's not a hard concept to comprehend.

Quincy Debaser

Can someone explain to me the Bleach plot-holes?

Mairuzu Old School Cool

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Because he nearly died or something stupid like that during Urahara's training.
I thought that was idiotic but whatever

Mairuzu Old School Cool

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Being able to increase your power by saying you're a five now is such poor writing. Things like that are way I never liked DB. At least in Bleach when Ichigo becomes more powerful it's because he learns something new. In DB they just become more powerful because they need to without any real explanation of how it happened. "Oh he's now SS4 he's 50 times more powerful now just because his hair turned a different color!" Such a lame anime. Also it doesn't matter. Aizens hypnosis is stated as being unbreakable. Until that changes trunks can't win.
Dude, its an anime fantasy show. Besides, they do explain how they get stronger, when a saiyan gets injured he'll become stronger when he recovers.

Its a transformation basically, thats just how their race works.