wolverine vs black panther

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yes and as I explained you would try even harder if it was life and death, you would also use different tactics if it was life or death.

tell that to wolverine.........or sabertooth ect.

just becuases there willing to kill doesent mean there trying, sabertooth a perfect example of that.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
tell that to wolverine.........or sabertooth ect.

just becuases there willing to kill doesent mean there trying, sabertooth a perfect example of that.

That depends on who you're fighting. They would try their best against a dangerous opponent.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
lol Logan can kill most people with out his claws. he stated numerous times he has to tab normal people becuases if he put any real strength behind it he crush there skulls.

If I'd really hit you... you'd be history.

Oh and Nightcrawler has enhanced durability BTW.

You can't try harder than your hardest. If it's life and death, you just realize that you have a lot more at stake if you lose. If you can bench 14 tons when you're trying as hard as you can, and you have to bench 15 tons, you're not going to bench 15 just because you'll die if you don't.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
That depends on who you're fighting. They would try their best against a dangerous opponent.

sabertooth has met few people as dangerous as Logan and yet he has toyed with Logan even though Logan was out to kill him.

Originally posted by KingD19
You can't try harder than your hardest. If it's life and death, you just realize that you have a lot more at stake if you lose. If you can bench 14 tons when you're trying as hard as you can, and you have to bench 15 tons, you're not going to bench 15 just because you'll die if you don't.

what ever tracks. doesent even matter. BP not getting around Logan damage soak before getting hit by an opponets who more experience, just as fast, and likly more skilled.

Originally posted by KingD19
You can't try harder than your hardest. If it's life and death, you just realize that you have a lot more at stake if you lose. If you can bench 14 tons when you're trying as hard as you can, and you have to bench 15 tons, you're not going to bench 15 just because you'll die if you don't.

Actually there are lots of examples of people doing miraculous things while under extreme pressure. Dire situations can make you do things you didnt know you were capable of.

Yes and you know you would try even harder at football if your life depended on it and you know it. 😐

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Actually there are lots of examples of people doing miraculous things while under extreme pressure. Dire situations can make you do things you didnt know you were capable of.

Yes and you know you would try even harder at football if your life depended on it and you know it. 😐

Originally posted by Battlehammer
thats not true.

sabertooth has met few people as dangerous as Logan and yet he has toyed with Logan even though Logan was out to kill him.

That could apply to Sabretooth because hes pyscho, it certainly doesnt apply to Wolverine in the situation im refering to, he even said he was taking it serioulsy.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
and you play a lot more sloppy.

Not if you were trained to deal with that sort of stress.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
That could apply to Sabretooth because hes pyscho, it certainly doesnt apply to Wolverine in the situation im refering to, he even said he was taking it serioulsy.

Not if you were trained to deal with that sort of stress.

actaully if Logan was truelly fighting his hardest he be berserker

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he was playing to win. Doesent mean he was putting in any more effort then normal.

actaully if Logan was truelly fighting his hardest he be berserker

I've seen several of those examples 1st hand, I've seen a man pry open an elevator door that lost power to get his kid out.

But what I'm saying is, if you're pushing yourself 100%, as hard as you can push yourself, your body can't do anymore, just because the element of death is added, isn't gonna let you go to 120%.

Adrenaline is a hell of a thing, but when your at your max, there is no going past that, and most of those amazing feats are of people doing things they didn't think they could normally, it doesn't mean they can't do it normally.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he was playing to win. Doesent mean he was putting in any more effort then normal.

Thing had to try and calm him down, so obvously he wasnt trying that hard at all.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

actaully if Logan was truelly fighting his hardest he be berserker

He doesnt have to be beserker he was still taking it more serioulsy than BP.

Originally posted by Trackz
he was swiping at BP in a blind fury, and went in to kill him, wolverine was giving it his all to win.

Originally posted by Trackz
he was swiping at BP in a blind fury, and went in to kill him, wolverine was giving it his all to win.

Erm... he's swiped ONCE at him.

Originally posted by KingD19
I've seen several of those examples 1st hand, I've seen a man pry open an elevator door that lost power to get his kid out.

But what I'm saying is, if you're pushing yourself 100%, as hard as you can push yourself, your body can't do anymore, just because the element of death is added, isn't gonna let you go to 120%.

Adrenaline is a hell of a thing, but when your at your max, there is no going past that, and most of those amazing feats are of people doing things they didn't think they could normally, it doesn't mean they can't do it normally.

..the point is when its life and death you are at your max, situations that arent can involve you using a lot of effort but you are not at your max.

There are varying degrees of trying your best.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Erm... he's swiped ONCE at him.

and tried to grab him before that.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thing had to try and calm him down, so obvously he wasnt trying that hard at all.

He doesnt have to be beserker he was still taking it more serioulsy than BP.

not at all. Killing first nature to him. killing like breathing. When he goes into fight it take more energy for him to restrain him self then to kill. Other hero are the opposit, it easier for them to not kill then kill. However his mind don't work that way.

again not that any of this even matters. Not aiming to kill does not make you slower.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he dident have to calm him down, not like thing even could.

Yeah he did because Wolverine was going to serioulsy **** BP up. Both BP and Thing saw that Wolverine was being more lethal.

What BP and Thing think > what you think.

yes Logan was willing to uses lethal force, does not equate to him trying more. Logan has killed a lot of people how many has BP killed?