wolverine has bn in high speed combat with sabretooth where they became blurs where psylocke commented she couldnt lock on to them and could barely see blurs. this was illustrated by the artist with after images over lapping.
another instance of wolverines high speed blur fighting was with the native where not even sabretooth could keep up with her.
these are all experienced meta fighters just so you know.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
wolverine has bn in high speed combat with sabretooth where they became blurs where psylocke commented she couldnt lock on to them and could barely see blurs. this was illustrated by the artist with after images over lapping.another instance of wolverines high speed blur fighting was with the native where not even sabretooth could keep up with her.
these are all experienced meta fighters just so you know.
Well thats good but since Bp looked faster than Wolverine when they fought BP is faster.
Also Wolverine wasnt injured in the example you gave.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well thats good but since Bp looked faster than Wolverine when they fought BP is faster.Also Wolverine wasnt injured in the example you gave.
actually the fact that he is fighting clawed enemies similar to him is very likely that he is being injured, stab, slice ect.. not logans fault he heals as soon as a cut is made.
also your ABC logic of speed is faulty its the same as saying that gambit is faster then quicksilver because he managed to hit and beat him.
we know its not true.
the fact that even though logan has shown to be faster then his opponent doesnt negate the fact that he will still recieve hits from him in a confrontation, the question is how many hits will his opponent land on logan before logan lands his fatal hits.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
actually the fact that he is fighting clawed enemies similar to him is very likely that he is being injured, stab, slice ect.. not logans fault he heals as soon as a cut is made.
Yeah but he has a HF....BP doesnt, also his opponents get injured as well.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
also your ABC logic of speed is faulty its the same as saying that gambit is faster then quicksilver because he managed to hit and beat him.
we know its not true.
Except that doesnt even prove that Gambit is faster than Quicksilver all that proves is that he can hit Quicksilver, just because you can hit somebody doesnt make you faster, thats like saying George Forman is as fast as Ali.
BP looked faster than Wolverine in two encounters so yeah it suggests hes faster than Wolverine. If all BP di was dodge one blows than you would have a point but im refering to two examples.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the fact that even though logan has shown to be faster then his opponent doesnt negate the fact that he will still recieve hits from him in a confrontation, the question is how many hits will his opponent land to on logan before logan lands his fatal hits.
Im not arguing who wins, im arguing whos faster.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneBP looked faster than Wolverine in two encounters so yeah it suggests hes faster than Wolverine. If all BP did was dodge one blows than you would have a point but im refering to two examples.
two examples dont qualify as black panther being faster when you have a history of wolverine speed feats when he has shown the ability to move far beyond what he has bn shown with panther. the fact that panther was able to avoid logan twice does not mean panther is faster. how many times has wolverine underestimated his opponents who shouldnt be a threat to him and yet they manage to hit and injure logan. that doesnt his opponent is better and faster it simply means wolverine was ready or simply planned on muscling through his opponent.
do you think DS is faster then superman because he managed to impress superman with his speed and agility that superman felt compelled to comment on his display.
fighting is fighting. Not trying to kill your opponet does not mean you all of a sudden are not trying or slower. It means simply your not aiming to kill.
Just becuases some one is willing to kill does not mean there using more effort. Logan has literally joke around while killing other with less effort then when he fighting not to kill.
Originally posted by Battlehammernot going for the kill means you're restraining yourself and limiting strategies you can use. Wolverine would be a lot more limited if he was fighting without his claws seeing as it would be one hit wouldn't possibly cause a fatal wound.
fighting is fighting. Not trying to kill your opponet does not mean you all of a sudden are not trying or slower. It means simply your not aiming to kill.Just becuases some one is willing to kill does not mean there using more effort. Logan has literally joke around while killing other with less effort then when he fighting not to kill.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
two examples dont qualify as black panther being faster when you have a history of wolverine speed feats when he has shown the ability to move far beyond what he has bn shown with panther.
Well its better than having no examples. Again feats dont mean anything when the character he is facing is shown to effortlessly dodge his attacks. You can have Wolverine dodging a 100 lasers but it doesnt mean anything if he cant hit BP. At the end of the day they were put side to side and BP looked more agile.
You can actually make it three with my BP dodging Cap example. Feats dont mean anything if they cant pull them off in actual fights.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the fact that panther was able to avoid logan twice does not mean panther is faster. how many times has wolverine underestimated his opponents who shouldnt be a threat to him and yet they manage to hit and injure logan. that doesnt his opponent is better and faster it simply means wolverine was ready or simply planned on muscling through his opponent.
Except in that example BP only attacked him once and the rest of the fight was him dodging and he wasnt even taking it serioulsy. Wolverine was taking it serioulsy and was only able to get him because BP understimated him, so what you're talking about doesnt apply.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
do you think DS is faster then superman because he managed to impress superman with his speed and agility that superman felt compelled to comment on his display.
Well for starters your taking liberties with that example your using a street levler vs a herald instead of street vs street. As far as im concerned if BP was effortlessly dodging him in their first fight and in their second encounter he mentions how fast he is it implies that BP is faster.
Im still looking for an example of him being too fast for a top tier while injured.
Originally posted by Trackz
not going for the kill means you're restraining yourself and limiting strategies you can use. Wolverine would be a lot more limited if he was fighting without his claws seeing as it would be one hit wouldn't possibly cause a fatal wound.
true, but so does almost every hero when ever they fight. It also does not make you slower which was the entrie arguement. I not talking Logan pinning Black Panther as saying he would win the fight (which he would mind you), but it did show he had roughly the same speed at least. Logan was not shown slower by any senses.
we better off showing feats of both while speed blizting.
Somebody said this before, just because it's a game, doesn't mean you don't try your damndest to win. When I'm on the football field, I run as hard and as fast as I can, I hit as hard as I can, and when I'm about to get hit, I try to avoid to the best of my abilities. Just because it's a game doesn't mean I don't take it seriously.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Actually Panther was like [b]"JUNGLE SWIFTNESS FTW!!!", then he got pinned. I can't see that as holding back. [/B]
.....how does that have anything to do with holding back? Thats just a comment on speed that has nothing to do with holding back.
Anyway BP said it was only a game and Wolverine was taking it more serioulsy even Thing told Wolverine to get a grip and stop taking it serioulsy.
Originally posted by KingD19
Somebody said this before, just because it's a game, doesn't mean you don't try your damndest to win. When I'm on the football field, I run as hard as I can, I hit as hard as I can, and when I'm about to get hit, I try to avoid to the best of my abilities. Just because it's a game doesn't mean I don't take it seriously.
Yes and as I explained you would try even harder if it was life and death, you would also use different tactics if it was life or death.