New Gods VS Not New Gods....

Originally posted by Naija boy
I was referencing your statements when referring to the touching of the Source wall incident.

I dont care if the wall has power or no power. Its all irrelevant. The presence of an an external circumstance(him having to touch something, whatever it was) is all i care about. Hence its irrelevant here.

If Takion can control all reality without the presence of this external circumstance then show me an example of him doing such and that will be all.

So you want me to repeat myself? I have scan above here that explains that Takion is an independent sentient being within the Source. Anything he wills the Source makes reality. (Takion 2) I put up the scans.

He has "the all encompassing powers of the Source tragically limited to the stunted perceptions of a man" (Takion # 7)

Takion can do anything with the Source depending on how strong his will is.

Takion is not simply in touch with the Source, they are one...

"Takion you are of the Source".

Originally posted by Allankles
So you want me to repeat myself? I have scan above here that explains that Takion is an independent sentient being within the Source. Anything he wills the Source makes reality. (Takion 2) I put up the scans.

He has "the all encompassing powers of the Source tragically limited to the stunted perceptions of a man" (Takion # 7)

Takion can do anything with the Source depending on how strong his will is.

Takion is not simply in touch with the Source, they are one...

"Takion you are of the Source".

All u are doing is repeating urself and not answering my challenge. All the statements of Takion "being of the source" and whatnot are nice and all. However he still needed to physically touch the source/source wall to become master of reality. That translates to an external circumstance and thus makes it inapplicable here. Case closed

Originally posted by Naija boy
All u are doing is repeating urself and not answering my challenge. All the statements of Takion "being of the source" and whatnot are nice and all. However he still needed to physically touch the source/source wall to become master of reality. That translates to an external circumstance and thus makes it inapplicable here. Case closed

Ehhm the Source Wall did not provide a link to the Source, that was Norman Kreger, because of his proximity to the sight of the creation of Takion.

Point was it was supporting evidence of what his nature can allow him to accomplish. I mentioned the Source Wall because it was the place Takion thought he could accomplish Highfather's task, the reality is it wasn't (again, the Wall was entirely irrelevant).

Your insistence on latching onto this detail avoids the gist of my argument, which is that Takion can master reality through the Source. But he's a good guy (unlike Stayne) his purpose is to maintain the balance, not rule, he doesn't even kill.

He can open himself to the power of the Source to counter any threat Takion # 6 (when Arzaz tested him), he even grew to a giant to counter the threat.

"Takion is power, not a vessel. This may limit his effectiveness because he'll never fully control his power like herald (or any limited being)" Takion # 5.

Originally posted by Allankles

Your insistence on latching onto this detail avoids the gist of my argument, which is that Takion can master reality through the Source. But he's a good guy (unlike Stayne) his purpose is to maintain the balance, not rule, he doesn't even kill.

He can open himself to the power of the Source to counter any threat Takion # 6 (when Arzaz tested him), he even grew to a giant to counter the threat.

"Takion is power, not a vessel. This may limit his effectiveness because he'll never fully control his power like herald (or any limited being)" Takion # 5.

From the panel, Takion can master reality through the Source but only through a means that is not available to him here.(comin into physical contact with whatever). He hasnt shown the ability to do this without that circumstance. and thats all i care about.

Originally posted by Allankles
Orion put a 5th of the power to collapse a reality/dimension

This is also a misrepresentation and omission of context. Orion contributed a fifth of his power to the spell cast by Dr fate. That spell itself, started a chain reaction which subsequently destroyed the dimension. Orions powered the spell, his power did not directly play any part in the dimensions destruction.

Originally posted by Naija boy
This is also a misrepresentation and omission of context. Orion contributed a fifth of his power to the spell cast by Dr fate. That spell itself, started a chain reaction which subsequently destroyed the dimension. Orions powered the spell, his power did not directly play any part in the dimensions destruction.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dc fanboys have been lying about this feat for years. Nicely done.

The amount of times in this thread alone is amazing.

Originally posted by Naija boy
This is also a misrepresentation and omission of context. Orion contributed a fifth of his power to the spell cast by Dr fate. That spell itself, started a chain reaction which subsequently destroyed the dimension. Orions powered the spell, his power did not directly play any part in the dimensions destruction.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And your omitting the part where all fate did was whisper to do that it didn't even take effort with the power he had.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And your omitting the part where all fate did was whisper to do that it didn't even take effort with the power he had.

Huh? Please what r u talking about?, Fate whispered the spell. That had nothing to do with my point at all. The SPELL is what caused the chain reaction which destroyed the dimension. How does him whispering it have any relevance?

Because whispering obviously shows hes trying amirite,don't be dense,also naration flat out called the cinque near omnipotent,orion has also effected an entire universe on the quantam level so seriously lets stop trying to downplay him so pathetically.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Because whispering obviously shows hes trying amirite,don't be dense,also naration flat out called the cinque near omnipotent,orion has also effected an entire universe on the quantam level so seriously lets stop trying to downplay him so pathetically.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Because whispering obviously shows hes trying amirite,don't be dense,also naration flat out called the cinque near omnipotent,orion has also effected an entire universe on the quantam level so seriously lets stop trying to downplay him so pathetically.

Please get ur useless idiotic fanboyism the hell outta here. Many magicians whisper the spells. U think the strength of a spell is determined by how loud the person says it? Then im sorry but ur a moron. Narration called cinque "near omnipotent" and im supposed to care for hyperbole? Rubbish. The point here was the claim about the feat Orion performed. It was taken out of context. End of story. Ur attempts to be smart and introduce the "whispering" of the spell as a relevant piece of information have only resulted in u making a damn fool of urself. Run along before u make it any worse

P.S- Orion hasnt done anything of the sort at the quantum level. Bump the appropriate threads and i will shoot down that misinterpretation of whats on panel again.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Because whispering obviously shows hes trying amirite,don't be dense

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And your omitting the part where all fate did was whisper to do that it didn't even take effort with the power he had.

lawl

Originally posted by Naija boy
Please get ur useless idiotic fanboyism the hell outta here. Many magicians whisper the spells. U think the strength of a spell is determined by how loud the person says it? Then im sorry but ur a moron. Narration called cinque "near omnipotent" and im supposed to care for hyperbole? Rubbish. The point here was the claim about the feat Orion performed. It was taken out of context. End of story. Ur attempts to be smart and introduce the "whispering" of the spell as a relevant piece of information have only resulted in u making a damn fool of urself. Run along before u make it any worse

P.S- Orion hasnt done anything of the sort at the quantum level. Bump the appropriate threads and i will shoot down that misinterpretation of whats on panel again.

And stfu mindset contribute or gtfo.

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Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Whole universe effected on the quantam level and going to collapse,orion swoops in,next time we see the universe its fine,theres nothing to misinterpret only stuff for you to get butthurt over,hyperbole right thats why fate makes sure to mention even before hand they all are connected to near infinite power sources fail more,and again whispering and showing no strain means he didn't try its not hard to understand.

And stfu mindset contribute or gtfo.

lulz please post the scan and show were it states orion affecting the universe on the quantum level. lulz ur calling me butthurt? Ur the one swooping in to defend ur precious orion, misinterpreting instances that have no relevance here in the first place and making a fool of urself in the process. Once again I beseech u to leave while ur not to far behind(though its probly too late by no). Fate mentioning that they are all connected to near infinite powersources is not the same as u arguing that Orion and the members of the cinque had near infinite power. That is unproven hyperbole featwise.

And i see that i think that strength of a spell is determined by how loud its recited. Then indeed vlaad whatever u call urself u are a moron. Now nicely carry ur irrelevant Orion wanking and GTFO here before u do anymore damage to urself.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Whole universe effected on the quantam level and going to collapse,orion swoops in,next time we see the universe its fine,theres nothing to misinterpret only stuff for you to get butthurt over,hyperbole right thats why fate makes sure to mention even before hand they all are connected to near infinite power sources fail more,and again whispering and showing no strain means he didn't try its not hard to understand.

And stfu mindset contribute or gtfo.

Originally posted by Naija boy
From the panel, Takion can master reality through the Source but only through a means that is not available to him here.(comin into physical contact with whatever). He hasnt shown the ability to do this without that circumstance. and thats all i care about.

The only contact is telepathic. Anything he thinks the Source makes reality (scan) Takion # 2. But his purpose is to maintain the balance, heal any taint, whereas Stayne's purpose is control. (Takion # 4).

He needed the mortal doorway (Norman Kreger) to heal the Source, nothing more. Takion's only limit is the strength of his will (Takion # 3).