Originally posted by dadudemonPlus Violet has a nice ass. Very splooge worthy.
True. That asian gang is supposed to be hemophages too, right? That would put them better than the guards Preston fought. (Better reflexes, strength, speed, etc.)Again, I've only seen the movie once...so I could be wrong.
But, yeah, her defeating that hemophage gang when surrounded by them was a much better feat than Prestong taking out the worlds best trained military forces. This is my opinion...considering hemophage "ability".
Originally posted by dadudemon
True. That asian gang is supposed to be hemophages too, right? That would put them better than the guards Preston fought. (Better reflexes, strength, speed, etc.)Again, I've only seen the movie once...so I could be wrong.
But, yeah, her defeating that hemophage gang when surrounded by them was a much better feat than Prestong taking out the worlds best trained military forces. This is my opinion...considering hemophage "ability".
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Wait, was it implied that the Asians are just human?
Originally posted by omgchosExactly, "Give them whatever they want." Seems the asian gang demanded respect, even fear. Why would a hemophage boss be afraid of them if they were mere humans? Why would he feel the need to pay them off? Why didnt he and his men pursue Violet themselves?
Well i would assume that if they were hemophages they might have been in cahoots with the other hemophages in the building. Instead of them being like separate organizations. The head "vamp" even told his crony to let the gang know that they would pay them if they killed her. Plus you'd figure if they were hemo's they might have been better shots.
Doesnt make sense, why he would feel the need to give human men "whatever thy want?"
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Exactly, "Give them whatever they want." Seems the asian gang demanded respect, even fear. Why would a hemophage boss be afraid of them if they were mere humans? Why would he feel the need to pay them off? Why didnt he and his men pursue Violet themselves?Doesnt make sense, why he would feel the need to give human men "whatever thy want?"
Spoiler:Everything points to them being human.
Even tho the antogen was a human one, tho unbeknownst to thema t the time.
Originally posted by omgchosTrained....
What you're forgetting is violet is trained. Hemophages don't change and then all of the sudden become ultimate. This isn't lost boys where he wasn't even full vampire and he could fly around the room matching blows with keifer. They gain a little speed and strength. Its not like an army of asian gangsters wouldn't scare them a bit. And who says it was fear. Maybe he just wanted to make sure they didn't cut a deal with violet to let her go. Like i said before. Most of the hemophages are on the same side. So why would he need to pay them to kill violet if all he had to do was tell them that the kid had the hemophage antogen and could kill them all.Spoiler:Everything points to them being human.
Even tho the antogen was a human one, tho unbeknownst to thema t the time.
You are forgetting the scene where Violet escapes with 6. I am watching it now.
Nerva's Henchman tells him that She went up.
Nerva says So go after her.
Nerva's henchman says The BLOOD CHINOIS control the top ten floors of this building.
Nerva says Give them whatever they want.
http://shanghaiist.com/2006/05/16/ultraviolet.php
As well, the only Chinese in the film are a group of hybrid vampire gangsters called the Blood Chinois - all of whom are killed by the protagonist.
BUT, she tells them "You aren't Archministry, you aren't even Vampire." Looks like at the very least, they are altered humans. Not human, but not Vampire.
And also, what you said about Violet being "Trained", well, the scene where Daxus and Nerva face off, Daxus says "Go night vision, take them apart." Nerva and his three cronies pwn like half a dozen fully armed soldiers. Now, if they can do that to regular men, "trained" men, why didn't they just pursue Violet themselves and pwn the Blood Chinois? I'll tell you why, it's because the Blood Chinois were not human, they were too much for Nerva to deal with, that's why he bribed them.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Trained....You are forgetting the scene where Violet escapes with 6. I am watching it now.
Nerva's Henchman tells him that She went up.
Nerva says So go after her.
Nerva's henchman says The BLOOD CHINOIS control the top ten floors of this building.
Nerva says Give them whatever they want.
http://shanghaiist.com/2006/05/16/ultraviolet.php
As well, the only Chinese in the film are a group of hybrid vampire gangsters called the Blood Chinois - all of whom are killed by the protagonist.
BUT, she tells them "You aren't Archministry, you aren't even Vampire." Looks like at the very least, they are altered humans. Not human, but not Vampire.
And also, what you said about Violet being "Trained", well, the scene where Daxus and Nerva face off, Daxus says "Go night vision, take them apart." Nerva and his three cronies pwn like half a dozen fully armed soldiers. Now, if they can do that to regular men, "trained" men, why didn't they just pursue Violet themselves and pwn the Blood Chinois? I'll tell you why, it's because the Blood Chinois were not human, they were too much for Nerva to deal with, that's why he bribed them.
Ahh. Okay. That makes sense now. It makes sense because I could not understand what the big deal was about that gang and why Violet seemed a little apprehensive about the meeting with those people...also, why the leader dude seemed so confident against one of the, if not the, most uber hemophage.
Hybrids are a combination of human and hemophage...obviously. Probaby not as uber as a hemophage, but they probably live longer than a hemophage.
Originally posted by dadudemonAnd stronger, faster, dangerous as hell, or Nerva would not have feared them.
Ahh. Okay. That makes sense now. It makes sense because I could not understand what the big deal was about that gang and why Violet seemed a little apprehensive about the meeting with those people...also, why the leader dude seemed so confident against one of the, if not the, most uber hemophage.Hybrids are a combination of human and hemophage...obviously. Probaby not as uber as a hemophage, but they probably live longer than a hemophage.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Trained....You are forgetting the scene where Violet escapes with 6. I am watching it now.
Nerva's Henchman tells him that She went up.
Nerva says So go after her.
Nerva's henchman says The BLOOD CHINOIS control the top ten floors of this building.
Nerva says Give them whatever they want.
http://shanghaiist.com/2006/05/16/ultraviolet.php
As well, the only Chinese in the film are a group of hybrid vampire gangsters called the Blood Chinois - all of whom are killed by the protagonist.
BUT, she tells them "You aren't Archministry, you aren't even Vampire." Looks like at the very least, they are altered humans. Not human, but not Vampire.
And also, what you said about Violet being "Trained", well, the scene where Daxus and Nerva face off, Daxus says "Go night vision, take them apart." Nerva and his three cronies pwn like half a dozen fully armed soldiers. Now, if they can do that to regular men, "trained" men, why didn't they just pursue Violet themselves and pwn the Blood Chinois? I'll tell you why, it's because the Blood Chinois were not human, they were too much for Nerva to deal with, that's why he bribed them.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And stronger, faster, dangerous as hell, or Nerva would not have feared them.
Oh no, you're absolutely correct. There is no debating this anymore. Those gangsters on the roof were far from being push overs. This just solidifies my point, earlier, that Violet defeated better than peak human. She whooped da ass of people that were much better than the guys John took out. She also beat an entire group of Hemophages, with a sword.
Hemophages > humans....except for life span.
Now, John defeated who I would think is the second best "fighting" human. Brandt, though not as awesome as John, was certainly pretty damn close to peak human in ability. When John was pissed, he handled Brandt like a b****.
Now, on another note, is it possible that hybrids are better than Hemophages, in general? Like Blade?
What did the novel say about this? The novel, I hear, explained much of the missing pieces in the film that were cut out due to time. IMDB compaints seem to be about plot holes in the film, or lack of backstory that is there in the novel.
Originally posted by omgchosThen tell me, why did Nerva fear the Blood Chinois? And why are they called the "Blood" Chinois? Why didn't Nerva and his men just kill them and get 6 themselves? Hmm? Nerva and his men, who, by themselves, took out haf a dozen TRAINED soldiers in the blink of an eye?
U are just like my friend. You think every "review" site or info site that someone makes about a movie is completely true. U said it yourself. She said they weren't vampires. Therfore they WERENT vampires. There was absolutely no mention in the movie of slightly altered humans. They were either hemophages or you were human.
There were however varying degrees of vampires as supported by Daxus saying that violet underwent the change with "only mild light sensitivity". Which means that Nerva and his cronys that killed those guys in the dark merely had the same advantage as daxus against violet. So if they aren't vampires than they are human. When she says "you aren't arch ministry" she doesn't mean human, not all the humans there were arch ministry. She meant that .....
[b](A)"You aren't arch ministry"They weren't out to get the package she just stole from the arch ministry. Which is y she said it.
(B)"You aren't even vampire"They didn't need to kill the kid, because he had a vampire antogen. Which means it didn't matter to them if the antogen got released. Otherwise payment wouldn't have been neccesary.(at least that was the belief at the time).
Her Quotes prove everything for me. And the fact that she dispatched them so easily. I know she was good. But if they were hybrids then they wouldv'e been just a lil less stupid. [/B]
Also, Daxus took out Nerva's men in the blink of an eye. But then Violet beat Daxus. What does that tell you? That Violet is the cream of the crop, that no one can touch her.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Oh no, you're absolutely correct. There is no debating this anymore. Those gangsters on the roof were far from being push overs. This just solidifies my point, earlier, that Violet defeated better than peak human. She whooped da ass of people that were much better than the guys John took out. She also beat an entire group of Hemophages, with a sword.Hemophages > humans....except for life span.
Now, John defeated who I would think is the second best "fighting" human. Brandt, though not as awesome as John, was certainly pretty damn close to peak human in ability. When John was pissed, he handled Brandt like a b****.
Now, on another note, is it possible that hybrids are better than Hemophages, in general? Like Blade?
What did the novel say about this? The novel, I hear, explained much of the missing pieces in the film that were cut out due to time. IMDB compaints seem to be about plot holes in the film, or lack of backstory that is there in the novel.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Then tell me, why did Nerva fear the Blood Chinois? And why are they called the "Blood" Chinois? Why didn't Nerva and his men just kill them and get 6 themselves? Hmm? Nerva and his men, who, by themselves, took out haf a dozen TRAINED soldiers in the blink of an eye?Also, Daxus took out Nerva's men in the blink of an eye. But then Violet beat Daxus. What does that tell you? That Violet is the cream of the crop, that no one can touch her.