The Gorgon vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Mekrob
I know. Osteoporosis.

And he just didn't seem as powerful with the armor. Sure he had some OK showings, but he just seemed... off.

I'll have to read over those issues again. When he was struggling to lift the Midgard Serpent, I don't remember any evidence that suggested armored Thor was any less strong or powerful. I mean, he had a pretty epic battle with the Midgard Serpent when he revealed his true form.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Are you colour blind?

Wondy 10/10. Gorgon isn't anything she hasn't seen before.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You make Thor sound like a 85 yr old lady with that. I prefer "cursed Thor." Not "osteoporosis Thor." uhuh

I'll have to read over those issues again. When he was struggling to lift the Midgard Serpent, I don't remember any evidence that suggested armored Thor was any less strong or powerful. I mean, he had a pretty epic battle with the Midgard Serpent when he revealed his true form.

if i remember correctly he was weaker because of accumulated injuries, not because his power was actually lessened, though i could be mistaken in that regard. hard to perform up to snuff with several broken bones . . .

anywho, as far as this battle--can't see gorgon winning this one in any way.

^ Yes, that's true. But within his enchanted armor, I'm pretty sure he operated as well as he would... though the Midgard Serpent does mock his state. But it seemed to me that it was more about big words than an accurate assessment of Thor's power at the time...

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't believe it! 😱

I need scans.

After an epic fight, which leads to Thor's confrontation with the Destroyer, Loki reveals that he doesn't mind that The Midgard Serpent is dead even though he's his son because in his words, "But he really was becoming simply too powerful in that large, clumsy way of his. Who knows what he might have broken if he had been allowed to reach his full growth."

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Travelling speed indicates nothing. Her numerous speed feats that allow her to fight near-light and FTL opponents and fend herself in situations that clearly require FTL reflexes indicate something.

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She doesn't have numerous feats of reactions at light speed. Her reaction feats read like a basic resume of any impressive street level dealing with laser fire and round up to a handful at best.
The only thing more impressive about the feats she does have is that she has the accuracy to deflect them while incoming. But both are able to react to the same types of threats.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thor has FTL reflexes. He may not pummel foes at FTL speeds, but he can fight those who do and fend himself in situations that clearly require FTL reflexes.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Gorgon might be slightly underestimated enough for him to eke out 1.

Wonderwoman 9/10.

Originally posted by grimify

Thor clearly seen to be lifting the Serpent. Fo Sure.

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yeah..... give it a rest.

it was funny the first night that Brucey posted that awful attempt at evidence but something that everyone's forgetting or perhaps flat out ignoring.... HE HAS A POINT...

characters like Flash and Kid Flash etc have repeatedly been hit by characters who possess speed limitations ALL THE TIME.

No one's about to argue that Cap Boomerang fights at the level of the speed force are they?

HELL NO!

Wonder Woman drew Zoom into a position to get lassoed which is still a horribly low showing on his part. It has little to nothing to do with Wonderwoman fighting at light speeds. pffft.

Flash maybe, but Kid Flash , the greatest Flash, never.

Originally posted by jinzin
No one's about to argue that Cap Boomerang fights at the level of the speed force are they?

HELL NO!

The new Captain Boomerang throws his weapons at the speed of sound, IIRC. And yeah, he's tagged Flash before. 🙂

Originally posted by Starscream M
the thing is they used one of the absolute high speed feats for WW (the deflecting god energies scan) and act as if she fights at that speed when she has almost never done so

Pffft.. That scan doesn't even prove that Diana has light speed reactions...

Look how close Trevor was to the energy bolts when that whole thing starts and he's even able to dive out of their way to give Wonder Woman room to get between them before he got hit.

Everyone's reading that incident as Diana blocking energy bolts that were coming from the opposite side of the universe, but it was stated that they were coming from EVERY corner of the universe which would include the space she was in.

Yeah, they COULD have been moving at light speed..... ORRRRRR they could have been moving at less than the speed of sound forming in WW's immediate vicinity and being blocked before they could pick up momentum. It was obviously getting harder quite quickly for her.

Originally posted by jinzin
So it's the same situation. He's had a few feats of reaction speed that are impressive but the WEALTH of his career has him getting clocked left and right by people who approach NOWHERE NEAR lightspeed in offensive capability. Therefore no one in their right mind thinks Thor fights at light speed, OR that it takes a lightspeed attack to be necessary to hit him.

Only in your deluded world where you feel you can put words into peoples' mouths and use straw-man argumentation does this happen. Get a grip.

Wonderwoman 9/10.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Nobody argued that either Wonderwoman or Thor fight at light speed 100% of the time or you require a lightspeed attack to fight either of them.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Flash and Superman in both of their careers have been clocked by people that don't approach nowhere near lightspeed in offensive capability. Nobody argued that either Wonderwoman or Thor fight at light speed 100% of the time or you require a lightspeed attack to fight either of them.

Only in your deluded world where you feel you can put words into peoples' mouths and use straw-man argumentation does this happen. Get a grip.

Wonderwoman 9/10.

pffft yeah I'm strawmanning.. Because people brought up speed feats to pretend that WW fights at lightspeed when none of those feats even prove that to begin with and THEN don't even apply to in-fight scenarios... I'm the one getting off track...

Typical Onedumb arrogant, self-projecting bullshit.

The difference between Clarks/Flash's application of superspeed in fights is based on MULTIPLES of showings where he can apply his speed to his fighting and does so. WonderWoman does NOT have the same types of feats and definitely does not do as often in the speed feats she does have.

What IS being argued is that she can fight at lightspeed HERE... which, based on the evidence presented AND the fact that she doesn't do this more often than not... is not an honest argument to make.

Let's keep things civil, folks. No bashing, please.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Gorgon might be slightly underestimated enough for him to eke out 1.

Wonderwoman 9/10.

Originally posted by jinzin

I disagree.

Me too... Gorgon wouldn't even come close to getting any wins.

I'm glad you've come around.

Originally posted by jinzin
Exactly she TRAVELS at light speed. how does that indicate anything about her fighting speed?
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Thor travels at lightspeed.. He's not a light speed fighter.

Just nitpicking here, if she TRAVELS at/or close to the speed of light as you seem to agree here, couldn't she just TRAVEL up to Gorgon at that TRAVELING speed with here fist outstretched infront of her and impale it through his face?

miss/rinse/reapeat, i mean, could Gorgon dodge a blitzing type character for any length of time close to how long WW could keep up the Lightspeed TRAVEL around the battlefield?

Originally posted by Juk3n
Just nitpicking here, if she TRAVELS at/or close to the speed of light as you seem to agree here, couldn't she just TRAVEL up to Gorgon at that TRAVELING speed with here fist outstretched infront of her and impale it through his face?

miss/rinse/reapeat, i mean, could Gorgon dodge a blitzing type character for any length of time close to how long WW could keep up the Lightspeed TRAVEL around the battlefield?

Gorgon couldn't even dodge Wolverine with a jetpack.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Gorgon couldn't even dodge Wolverine with a jetpack.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Just nitpicking here, if she TRAVELS at/or close to the speed of light as you seem to agree here, couldn't she just TRAVEL up to Gorgon at that TRAVELING speed with here fist outstretched infront of her and impale it through his face?

Originally posted by Juk3n
miss/rinse/reapeat, i mean, could Gorgon dodge a blitzing type character for any length of time close to how long WW could keep up the Lightspeed TRAVEL around the battlefield?

Dunno, but I don't see why not. there's no sign that Gorgon fatigues.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Gorgon couldn't even dodge Wolverine with a jetpack.

Wolverine had tech to keep Gorgon from reading him and was teleporting while Gorgon was preoccupied. Yup that's the same thing. Nice to see the discrimination though. Characters hit Gorgon, he can be hit. Characters hit Wondy.... ain't happening.