Originally posted by Starscream Mbottom of page bump
scan 1: amazo UNDERESTIMATES WW's speed. she's fast. no one denies that. scan does not show her speed to be anywhere near lightspeed however.scan 2: not sure where you see a blitz. or perhaps we have very different definitions of blitzes. she lassos Zoom...impressive speed and accuracy feat. but not a blitzing feat imo.
scan 3: rapid punches. again WW's fast. especially her reflexes and arm movement speed. no one's denying that. but she isn't a blitzer...ie superman where he looks like he's fighting an opponent at omnidirections at the same time, that would be a demonstration of fighting at superspeed.
Originally posted by Starscream MShe ties up Amazo with Flash's speed before Amazo with Flash's speed can even move.
scan 1: amazo UNDERESTIMATES WW's speed. she's fast. no one denies that. scan does not show her speed to be anywhere near lightspeed however.
Probably not even a good feat when you think about it... Flash isn't even as fast as Spider-Man in retrospect.
Originally posted by jinzin
Did.Once again, it's reacting to practical lasers from every direction which a handful of streeters have done. are they too lightspeeders?
Surely since WW is a character who can travel at the speed of light, then we accept that those are legitimate light speed reactions?
Cap and anyone else who isn't a light speed traveller reacting to death ray lasers is just.....well comics being comics.
Originally posted by Warrior18
Surely since WW is a character who can travel at the speed of light, then we accept that those are legitimate light speed reactions?Cap and anyone else who isn't a light speed traveller reacting to death ray lasers is just.....well comics being comics.
Exactly she TRAVELS at light speed. how does that indicate anything about her fighting speed?
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Thor travels at lightspeed.. He's not a light speed fighter.
Originally posted by jinzinShe's reacting to at least hundreds (probably more in the thousands) of pieces of light moving way faster than light...
Did.Once again, it's reacting to practical lasers from every direction which a handful of streeters have done. are they too lightspeeders?
And she's not simply dodging them. She's blocking each and every particle.
Think about it for a second.
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Originally posted by Mekrobamazo has flash speed
She ties up Amazo with Flash's speed before Amazo with [b]Flash's speed can even move.Probably not even a good feat when you think about it... Flash isn't even as fast as Spider-Man in retrospect. [/B]
flash has flash speed
tagging amazo or flash does not mean you have flash speed
not hard to understand...unless every person who's hit flash or amazo all possess light speed reflexes now
Originally posted by jinzin
Exactly she TRAVELS at light speed. how does that indicate anything about her fighting speed?
😕Thor travels at lightspeed.. He's not a light speed fighter.
Well, to be fair, I DO remember Jinzin arguing Wolverine could take down Wonder Woman in a bloodlusted fight awhile back.....
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Originally posted by Starscream MShe kicks enough rocks, fast enough to force Zoom to travel where she wants, calculates his location, lasso's him and punches him before he can react.
scan 2: not sure where you see a blitz. or perhaps we have very different definitions of blitzes. she lassos Zoom...impressive speed and accuracy feat. but not a blitzing feat imo.
While blind.
Call it a blitz or something else, she still calculated all that and performed before Zoom could react.
But wait... oh yeah, Gorgon's gonna read all that thought process in time.
Gorgon's out-thought some SHIELD soldiers. He thinks way faster than Zoom. Clearly.
Originally posted by Warrior18Wait. So if Cap , Spider-man can do similar feats many times we classify those as PIS but it's fine for WW because she can can travel at light speed?
Surely since WW is a character who can travel at the speed of light, then we accept that those are legitimate light speed reactions?Cap and anyone else who isn't a light speed traveller reacting to death ray lasers is just.....well comics being comics.
You realize that most of those light speed feats of WW are coming from those blocking /hitting speeders instances right?
Originally posted by Starscream M
and to be fair, jinzin's actually basing his assessments on WW's spectacular record against street levelers
And I could base Superman's record against Batman as a horrible arguement to make the case that the Gorgon could win.
I mean, hey, Batman always seems to hit the guy.
Originally posted by Starscream MBrucey, I don't think (actually, I know you don't) you understand.
amazo has flash speedflash has flash speed
tagging amazo or flash does not mean you have flash speed
not hard to understand...unless every person who's hit flash or amazo all possess light speed reflexes now
She tied up essentially Flash before he could even move... a muscle. She didn't simply tag him.
Originally posted by Original Smurphshe kicked ONCE...sent rocks flying. Zoom somehow gets flustered by this, and gets trapped.
She kicks enough rocks, fast enough to force Zoom to travel where she wants, calculates his location, lasso's him and punches him before he can react.While blind.
Call it a blitz or something else, she still calculated all that and performed before [b]Zoom
could react.But wait... oh yeah, Gorgon's gonna read all that thought process in time.
Gorgon's out-thought some SHIELD soldiers. He thinks way faster than Zoom. Clearly. [/B]
we usually call that PIS.
Originally posted by kgkgIt's simply a question of logic.
Wait. So if Cap , Spider-man can do similar feats many times we classify those as PIS but it's fine for WW because she can can travel at light speed?You realize that most of those light speed feats of WW are coming from those blocking /hitting speeders instances right?
Wonder Woman is shown to be logically capable of these feats.
Cap and Spider-Man are shown to be incapable of anything close to this except for when their comics need teh uber feats.
Cap dodging lasers in zero gravity is a lolz feat that's referenced over and over again as the ridiculous logic of comics.
Either way, Gorgon hasn't demonstrated anything close to lightspeed reactions.