Americans or Japanese?

I don't know why people are comparing BG with Diablo. They are actually very different games.

Yeah but Diablo is better.

Originally posted by Weltall
Yeah but Diablo is better.

That's arbitrary. I, personally, prefer Diablo. However, I wouldn't dare to argue that Diablo has better RPG elements.

Yea, they are different, I'm not sure some would consider Diablo a true RPG, more like arcade. Dunno. I actually really like Diablo though.

It has a far better and less generic storyline, which is the most important roleplaying element of all in a video game.

Yea, hero stop the big bad evil, vs hero who finds out the man who raised him is his foster father and he is a demigod around in one of Alaoundo's darkest prohpecies. The storyline in BG1 and 2 is epic and on par with novels. To say otherwise makes me think you haven't played the game or are just trolling for a response.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea, they are different, I'm not sure some would consider Diablo a true RPG, more like arcade. Dunno. I actually really like Diablo though.

Its more a action role playing game.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Its more a action role playing game.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B]Nah, BG1 and BG2 were way more complex. More party members, more spells, more depth about the spells (hell the instruction manual was several hundred pages because of it), you have reputation, romances, everything.

Dual class, multi-class, custom class, kits. The first Diablo had like, 3 classes. Baldur's Gate allowed you to summon Genie's, NPC's had their own quests. You had so many optional quests you could play forever. It went on and on. In Diablo you could potentially go forever in character levels (so they say), but you can mod BG to do that too.

No way is BG more watered down. In Diablo, you moved and hit. Diablo two had a little more depth, but the simplicity is also why people liked it too. But it wasn't more complex than BG. No way no how.

I do not recall BG being that deep at all.

A few spells and talents, but I don't remember too much of questing. Everything wrapped together towards the main plot.

I never played BG 2 so no comment.

BG2 was built a lot more on the same formula. Much more freedom and quests. You should give it a shot.

BG1 had more areas, but less quests. BG2 had loads of them, and then some. You could also mod both games as well.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
BG2 was built a lot more on the same formula. Much more freedom and quests. You should give it a shot.

BG1 had more areas, but less quests. BG2 had loads of them, and then some. You could also mod both games as well.

Played BG on PS2.

I've thought about getting BG 2 for some time though.

BG: Dark Alliance? Not even slightly as good to the computer version's, but pretty enjoyable nonetheless.

Edit:Also, Neb, have you ever actually played the games you slate? Becuase its really hard to see what the hell your problem is with them, much less your insistence of 'I didn't like the story, so no-one else possibly can'. I mean, wtf?

I haven't completed all of them but I have played them and I used to be a big fan of the genre (WRPG)... but then I started to play games like Xenogears and Chrono Trigger and the games started to look really bad by comparison. I don't know, maybe I am a little over critical of them for that reason but even when I was a fan I was never truly ever blown away or anything.

Originally posted by geshien
Played BG on PS2.

I've thought about getting BG 2 for some time though.

I'm also generally not a fan of the Lord of the Rings style epic stories that WRPGs generally deliver, or of the freedom of choice and sense of exploration that a lot of WRPGs define themselves by. JRPGs, for me personally, have a lot more charm to them, and I prefer the general linear approach. It could be a taste thing...

Have anyone ever heard of that game Capoeira Fighter 3?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Lol, oh no wonder, yea the PS2 version is like Diablo meets BG, you didn't see the vids I posted?

Uh, that's a negative Ghost Rider.

Checking now.

Originally posted by Weltall
I'm also generally not a fan of the Lord of the Rings style epic stories that WRPGs generally deliver, or of the freedom of choice and sense of exploration that a lot of WRPGs define themselves by. JRPGs, for me personally, have a lot more charm to them, and I prefer the general linear approach. It could be a taste thing...

Come to think of it, why are WRPGs mostly LotR-like?

Just incase people didn't know what game I was talking about:

YouTube video

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Come to think of it, why are WRPGs mostly LotR-like?