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Originally posted by Surtur
Let me explain it to you, the reason is because people here mostly do not care about the deaths we have. I do care, the country doesn't. I know the numbers, I always know the numbers of deaths here. In the last 24 hours we've had 2 dead and 9 injured.
Also it sucks to say, but people are used to gun violence. It is part of our culture. I am not defending that, but it is the truth. So yep, IMO it's not hard to see why when someone comes here from some crazy ass religion and murders people here in the name of that religion...people notice more. We see what happens to you guys and we fear it coming here slowly, and it seems it is.
It is the same reason attacks in the UK and all over Europe get attention more than attacks in the middle east, etc. Sad to say, those are common there. You have majority muslim religions. They come to your country and blow shit up and murder you or they radicalize people who already live there. I am not trying to insult you, I think both our countries need to be careful.

Of course we need to be careful, and to be fair, I live in London: I see the effect of these terrorist attacks, and it is horrible. I don't really know what can be done other than the vague 'stop the rise of Islamic extremism' because most Islamic terrorists here and born here. The refugee thing falls flat because often it is young second or third generation Muslims getting into terrorism, even though their parents are likely to be very moderate.

Morning_Glory Sleeping In My Soul

Originally posted by EvilTyrant
I have some complaints about the game, but I think this is purely from playing Marvel vs Capcom 2. I might just need to get used to the game. The game is too simple now, and they removed some attacks. For instance when playing with Hulk, I used to jump and come down with hard/roundhouse kick, but they got rid of this, theres more, anybody else feel this way?

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Scribble
I do disagree with, for example, Germany's approach to immigration and handling refugees, even though I admire their compassion and understand why they've done it, but overall the focus on immigration and imagining Europe being turned into some nightmare scape by those on the right is utter tosh
Like America... you guys have Detroit, so don't step to Europe with your accusations of post-apocalyptic wastelands, you know?

Yup.

We don't even need to look to Detroit, we recently had a massive shooting, close to 60 dead and it was in Nevada, a staunch Red state with open-carry laws. But some people don't care about that cos the terrorist there doesn't fit the proper "brown/muslim/immigrant" profile.

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Originally posted by Foxsteak
If terrorists start attacking America for Allah, will you guys git ya gun and cowboy the muzzies?

I'd never harm an innocent person, I don't even own a gun. I have been thinking about getting one, but not because of terror attacks. I found out recently my aunt owns a rifle, but then she lives on some farm in a rural part of Illinois and has various animals. I might try it out on Thanksigiving when I see them.

But did you know John McCain came out after the recent attack in NYC and said we're at war with radical Islam?

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Originally posted by Surtur
It just more comes off like people trying to give the appearance that all is well even when it is not. I think where you live isn't as bad as other parts in Europe IMO. I think of Sweden and all the stuff going on there that isn't getting talked about much. I think of the rape gangs in Germany the government tried to cover up.

Well I think the opposite, I think people are trying to make it out to be worse than it is. Things have never been great, so what's new? Yeah, we have new problems, but we've always had problems. Scaremongering is useless. I've heard very different things about Sweden from both sides, some saying it's overhyped, some saying it really isn't, so it's hard to make a decision there. The Germany New Year incidents though, for example, are inexcusable and the government not taking any responsibility for what happened is disgusting.

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Originally posted by Scribble
I do disagree with, for example, Germany's approach to immigration and handling refugees, even though I admire their compassion and understand why they've done it, but overall the focus on immigration and imagining Europe being turned into some nightmare scape by those on the right is utter tosh
Like America... you guys have Detroit, so don't step to Europe with your accusations of post-apocalyptic wastelands, you know?

I guess this just confuses me. In all seriousness, this is not a contest. You do not see me getting as defensive over you saying things about America. I have talked about Chicago many times here.

Detroit is awful, parts of Chicago are awful. This is true. But we worry about who uses what bathroom and twitter posts instead.

Bashar Teg Senior Mentat

Originally posted by Morning_Glory
Why does the discussion always have to be so depressing

YOU'RE depressing!

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Originally posted by Robtard
Yup.
We don't even need to look to Detroit, we recently had a massive shooting, close to 60 dead and it was in Nevada, a staunch Red state with open-carry laws. But some people don't care about that cos the terrorist there doesn't fit the proper "brown/muslim/immigrant" profile.

I think a lot of it is because people don't know how to confront those kind of issues. It's much easier for them to focus on Islamic terrorism because it's a nice, simple situation where they can tie skin colour to ideology and say "what can we do to stop this?", whereas dealing with just some white guy and saying "what can we do to stop this?" is too complex for most people to approach. Might be wrong, idk, but it's kind of how I see it

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Originally posted by Surtur
I guess this just confuses me. In all seriousness, this is not a contest. You do not see me getting as defensive over you saying things about America. I have talked about Chicago many times here.
Detroit is awful, parts of Chicago are awful. This is true. But we worry about who uses what bathroom and twitter posts instead.

Like I said, the whole world is kind of ****ed, but Europe and America are actually both equally not as bad, that was my main point. Like, you guys have the luxury of worrying about bathrooms and stuff, Rwanda doesn't have that luxury

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Originally posted by Scribble
Well I think the opposite, I think people are trying to make it out to be worse than it is. Things have never been great, so what's new? Yeah, we have new problems, but we've always had problems. Scaremongering is useless. I've heard very different things about Sweden from both sides, some saying it's overhyped, some saying it really isn't, so it's hard to make a decision there. The Germany New Year incidents though, for example, are inexcusable and the government not taking any responsibility for what happened is disgusting.

I think part of the problem is that when there is an unknown it is human nature to assume the worst. Sweden is very eager to cover up things. They will not usually tell you who was responsible for a terror attack. Some of them also seem content to ignore the increasing rape problems.

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Originally posted by Surtur
I'd never harm an innocent person, I don't even own a gun. I have been thinking about getting one, but not because of terror attacks. I found out recently my aunt owns a rifle, but then she lives on some farm in a rural part of Illinois and has various animals. I might try it out on Thanksigiving when I see them.
But did you know John McCain came out after the recent attack in NYC and said we're at war with radical Islam?

Lol, McCain is a lot like Bush in a way.

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Originally posted by Scribble
I think a lot of it is because people don't know how to confront those kind of issues. It's much easier for them to focus on Islamic terrorism because it's a nice, simple situation where they can tie skin colour to ideology and say "what can we do to stop this?", whereas dealing with just some white guy and saying "what can we do to stop this?" is too complex for most people to approach. Might be wrong, idk, but it's kind of how I see it

IMO you are wrong. You seem to suggest people focus on Islamic terror because they can tie race into it, but people don't care as much to solve the issue with a white guy shooting people.

If you want to bring race into it, why just whites? Why not name the race that is responsible for a majority of gun shootings in this country?

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Scribble
I'm gonna have Dat Pizzaaaaa

Speaking of, it's around lunchtime here and I'm one hungry mofo. Thinking tacos

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Originally posted by Scribble
I'm gonna have Dat Pizzaaaaa

Don't forget to log it in the pizza bread.

Bashar Teg Senior Mentat

i wanna go home

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Surtur
IMO you are wrong. You seem to suggest people focus on Islamic terror because they can tie race into it, but people don't care as much to solve the issue with a white guy shooting people.
If you want to bring race into it, why just whites? Why not name the race that is responsible for a majority of gun shootings in this country?

White people...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

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oh great ep 7 of s2 of Stranger Danger has loads of ideas I was exploring in my current and latest novel

nice one dick'eads now everyone will think I'm a right thief

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Originally posted by Robtard
Speaking of, it's around lunchtime here and I'm one hungry mofo. Thinking tacos

Wish we had a more steady supply of Mexican food in London, there are now a couple of Taco Bells I believe but all the real good shit is quite a bit more pricey. That being said there's a great burrito delivery/takeout place nearby, they seriously pack those flatbreads

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Originally posted by Robtard
White people...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

White people 51%, Black people 15%.

Now take into account the percentage of the population blacks represent vs the percentage of whites.

Like 6% of the population is responsible for FIFTEEN percent of mass shootings. I'm not making excuses for white shooters, but you kinda need to take population into account here.