Originally posted by SurturWell if it isn't sexism, then what is it? And I'm not talking about the difference between some workaholic guy and a woman on maternity leave. I'm talking about the rest of it
I never said don't strive to bridge the gap. Just don't whine and blame sexism. Why is that so difficult?You don't need to whine about patriarchy and that to make it an issue. Like what?
Originally posted by Scribble
So educate instead of attacking. Approach it in a sensible and rational manner, instead of throwing insults around. You won't change anyone's mind by calling them an idiot
People have been screaming the wage gap isn't what feminists think for years. They are not listening. Too busy making p*ssy hats and whining about non existent rape cultures.
Go watch Jordan Peterson debate Cathy Newman. See how she twists everything?
That is modern day feminism.
Originally posted by SurturTo be fair, have you seen those videos of women filming their day and showing how much they get catcalled? It may not be a rape culture, but it's certainly one that plays down sexual harassment, so I can see why a woman (i.e. the most common target of sexual assault) could see it as one
It's like rape. Rape STILL happens here. You do not need to lie like little weasels and pretend we live in a rape culture in order to discuss rape. But they do it anyways.
Originally posted by ScribbleI'm just going by what he told me, he was working there for awhile, I have no reason not to believe him.
I'd be somewhat wary of that source. idk about in America, but in the UK jobs like that have a flat rate of pay regardless of gender or anything else.
Could be that "life choices" played a role in their minimum wage mcdonalds job. 🙄
Originally posted by JmanghanLike I say, I don't know how it works in America. I just know how it works here. Generally a job role has its per hour wage in the description, before anybody's even applied for it you know how much you'll be earning
I'm just going by what he told me, he was working there for awhile, I have no reason not to believe him.Could be that "life choices" played a role in their minimum wage mcdonalds job. 🙄
Originally posted by Scribble
Well if it isn't sexism, then what is it? And I'm not talking about the difference between some workaholic guy and a woman on maternity leave. I'm talking about the rest of it
It is life choices lol. It's not just maternity leave. Women, on average, are more likely to take more time off than men, and that is even if you remove maternity leave.
They have different goals than men, they make different job choices. Men are more likely to die at work than women. Why, Scrib? Are we just bumbling idiots and these women are just super duper good at the same jobs? Nope, because in certain areas men work more. Notice you will have feminists complain about the lack of female CEO's, but never the lack of female sanitation or construction workers.
They choose to work less hours, less days. On average choose to take more time off for family(not just maternity leave, but doing what my mom did and moving from full time to part time when I was about 8 to spend more time with us).
Men are more likely to ask for a raise than a woman. There is a whole shitload of factors. It very rarely is "she be having a vagina yo!". There are so many factors they ignore so they can play the victim. It should piss off anyone who truly believes in equality that they manipulate people(especially younger women) into believing these lies.
Originally posted by Scribble
To be fair, have you seen those videos of women filming their day and showing how much they get catcalled? It may not be a rape culture, but it's certainly one that plays down sexual harassment, so I can see why a woman (i.e. the most common target of sexual assault) could see it as one
Christ almighty cat calling is not rape. Nor to me is it even harassment. Not unless the same person does it over and over.
The misleading sexual assault stats aren't even just regurgitated by feminists. Obama spewed this stuff lol. As he did about the wage gap, without giving any context.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
squirt thinks that rape culture is actually a leftist/hollywood thing. some cock-hungry jezebel cucked him hard 15 years ago, and that's why we must endure his endless whining over women.
It's not a leftist thing, it's a thing that doesn't exist here. You can find it in other countries. Most of them muslim majority countries.
Originally posted by Surtur
It is life choices lol. It's not just maternity leave. Women, on average, are more likely to take more time off than men, and that is even if you remove maternity leave.They have different goals than men, they make different job choices. Men are more likely to die at work than women. Why, Scrib? Are we just bumbling idiots and these women are just super duper good at the same jobs? Nope, because in certain areas men work more. Notice you will have feminists complain about the lack of female CEO's, but never the lack of female sanitation or construction workers.
They choose to work less hours, less days. On average choose to take more time off for family(not just maternity leave, but doing what my mom did and moving from full time to part time when I was about 8 to spend more time with us).
Men are more likely to ask for a raise than a woman. There is a whole shitload of factors. It very rarely is "she be having a vagina yo!". There are so many factors they ignore so they can play the victim. It should piss off anyone who truly believes in equality that they manipulate people(especially younger women) into believing these lies.
Maybe it is very rarely *JUST* "She be havin a vagina yo!". But it's still a factor.
Originally posted by SurturI bet if you walked around and had ugly middle-aged women screaming "get your cock out" at you all day you'd feel attacked
Christ almighty cat calling is not rape. Nor to me is it even harassment. Not unless the same person does it over and over.The misleading sexual assault stats aren't even just regurgitated by feminists. Obama spewed this stuff lol. As he did about the wage gap, without giving any context.
It's not a leftist thing, it's a thing that doesn't exist here. You can find it in other countries. Most of them muslim majority countries.
Originally posted by ScribbleYouTube video
I bet if you walked around and had ugly middle-aged women screaming "get your cock out" at you all day you'd feel attacked
Not ugly, but yeah...
Originally posted by SurturI don't disagree with any of this, I just think your approach is all wrong. You're too cynical and one-sided about it all.
It is life choices lol. It's not just maternity leave. Women, on average, are more likely to take more time off than men, and that is even if you remove maternity leave.They have different goals than men, they make different job choices. Men are more likely to die at work than women. Why, Scrib? Are we just bumbling idiots and these women are just super duper good at the same jobs? Nope, because in certain areas men work more. Notice you will have feminists complain about the lack of female CEO's, but never the lack of female sanitation or construction workers.
They choose to work less hours, less days. On average choose to take more time off for family(not just maternity leave, but doing what my mom did and moving from full time to part time when I was about 8 to spend more time with us).
Men are more likely to ask for a raise than a woman. There is a whole shitload of factors. It very rarely is "she be having a vagina yo!". There are so many factors they ignore so they can play the victim. It should piss off anyone who truly believes in equality that they manipulate people(especially younger women) into believing these lies.
Originally posted by JmanghanThat'd be funny if it wasn't literally how it is for women. I remember with my last proper girlfriend it happened loads, like at this festival some chavs were leering and talking in sub-chimp, and she told them to **** off. They nearly beat the shit out of us and would have if there weren't security around. Never seen something like that happen the other way around
YouTube videoNot ugly, but yeah...
Originally posted by Scribble
I don't disagree with any of this, I just think your approach is all wrong. You're too cynical and one-sided about it all.
Cuz I've seen time and time again this get explained and they just do not care. They just don't. They are still spewing the same shit.
When the president himself gets in on the bullshit you know it's a losing battle.
Linda Sarsour was heavily involved in the womens march. She told Ayaan Hirsi Ali she didn't deserve her vagina. Yeah, Ali was the victim of genital mutilation by Islamists. These are the lunatics 3rd wave feminists embrace. If you feel you can string together the words in the proper order to break through to these people go for it. You'd have better luck teaching a fish Latin.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Maybe it is very rarely *JUST* "She be havin a vagina yo!". But it's still a factor.
In the rare times it is because of vagina there are actual laws that usually protect against that.
Now I do not know how those laws apply to Hollywood actors, I know they sign contracts and all that shit, but if it's some average joe working at McDonalds...I mean, if it's clearly due to gender there are ways to fight it. This is why I said "name me these things so we can fight it". Some vague "it might be happening" does nothing.
Originally posted by Scribble
Essentially what you're saying is Surt, that there are things that need to change with how women are treated in your country, but you won't help do anything about it until they sit down and shut the **** up
Lol uh, what can I do to make women work more hours or take less time off work?
And WHY are the only options sit down and shut up or spew bullshit? Why can't I want them to stand up, not shut up, but also not spew utter nonsense?
Originally posted by SurturExcept some women are so desperate that they'll ignore it just to keep their jobs, plus sexual harrassment from bosses and such. Because obviously if those laws do go into effect in that situation, they clearly won't have a job anymore. (Which can be a problem on both sides, but women are the primary target)
Cuz I've seen time and time again this get explained and they just do not care. They just don't. They are still spewing the same shit.When the president himself gets in on the bullshit you know it's a losing battle.
In the rare times it is because of vagina there are actual laws that usually protect against that.
Now I do not know how those laws apply to Hollywood actors, I know they sign contracts and all that shit, but if it's some average joe working at McDonalds...I mean, if it's clearly due to gender there are ways to fight it. This is why I said "name me these things so we can fight it". Some vague "it might be happening" does nothing.