Originally posted by Jmanghan
Except some women are so desperate that they'll ignore it just to keep their jobs, plus sexual harrassment from bosses and such. Because obviously if those laws do go into effect in that situation, they clearly won't have a job anymore. (Which can be a problem on both sides, but women are the primary target)
Okay so if they won't talk about it HOW do we fix it? Bring in telepaths?
We need to know a specific business has a problem before it can be addressed.
https://www.elitedaily.com/news/woman-stabbed-catcalling-legs/1590027
http://komonews.com/news/local/police-woman-attacked-after-telling-man-to-stop-catcalling-her
https://www.thecut.com/2016/09/a-woman-was-run-over-by-a-moped-for-ignoring-catcalls.html
Tell me again how catcalling isn't an issue bro. Do it.
Originally posted by Scribble
https://www.elitedaily.com/news/woman-stabbed-catcalling-legs/1590027http://komonews.com/news/local/police-woman-attacked-after-telling-man-to-stop-catcalling-her
https://www.thecut.com/2016/09/a-woman-was-run-over-by-a-moped-for-ignoring-catcalls.html
Tell me again how catcalling isn't an issue bro. Do it.
Lol wtf. Stabbing people goes above and beyond cat calling.
I do not think if a woman walks by and someone shouts "nice legs" that is harassment.
Yes, if it's repeated by the same guy or he ATTACKS her...I mean, an attack isn't harassment, it's assault.
Originally posted by SurturYou can want them to do that sure, but you don't seem to be wanting to acknowledge any of the actual bad stuff that happens
Lol uh, what can I do to make women work more hours or take less time off work?And WHY are the only options sit down and shut up or spew bullshit? Why can't I want them to stand up, not shut up, but also not spew utter nonsense?
Originally posted by SurturThe point is, women feel scared by catcallers because A) they get it all ****ing day, and B) they can't even tell them to leave them alone without fear of being stabbed or otherwise assaulted
Lol wtf. Stabbing people goes above and beyond cat calling.I do not think if a woman walks by and someone shouts "nice legs" that is harassment.
Yes, if it's repeated by the same guy or he ATTACKS her...I mean, an attack isn't harassment, it's assault.
Originally posted by Scribble
The point is, women feel scared by catcallers because A) they get it all ****ing day, and B) they can't even tell them to leave them alone without fear of being stabbed or otherwise assaulted
Okay dude, I can see being scared of cat callers. To go from that to rape culture is so extreme though it's insane.
Originally posted by SurturNo, but if someone is walking past and the dude is like "Dayum, check out that ass, bruh!"
Lol wtf. Stabbing people goes above and beyond cat calling.I do not think if a woman walks by and someone shouts "nice legs" that is harassment.
Yes, if it's repeated by the same guy or he ATTACKS her...I mean, an attack isn't harassment, it's assault.
While the dudes are continually saying stuff like "Ay, come over and sit on this dick, girl!"
Which does happen.
Originally posted by SurturUm this bad stuff that is a direct result of sexism and male entitlement
What bad stuff dude? I happen to not think it is bad if a woman makes less money based on her *own* personal choices.
Originally posted by Scribble
https://www.elitedaily.com/news/woman-stabbed-catcalling-legs/1590027http://komonews.com/news/local/police-woman-attacked-after-telling-man-to-stop-catcalling-her
https://www.thecut.com/2016/09/a-woman-was-run-over-by-a-moped-for-ignoring-catcalls.html
Tell me again how catcalling isn't an issue bro. Do it.
Originally posted by SurturYou're using hyperbole. It's not "so extreme it's insane", when shit like this happens:
Okay dude, I can see being scared of cat callers. To go from that to rape culture is so extreme though it's insane.
I can see why a woman would think of a culture as a 'rape culture' after something like that
Originally posted by Jmanghan
No, but if someone is walking past and the dude is like "Dayum, check out that ass, bruh!"While the dudes are continually saying stuff like "Ay, come over and sit on this dick, girl!"
Which does happen.
But again, I have covered that. I think if the same person repeatedly keeps doing that it is harassment. If someone just says "nice ass" as she walks by...it's rude and vulgar, but I don't consider it harassment.
What is next? Asking for a phone number is harassment too? Cheesy pick up lines?
Originally posted by Scribble
Um this bad stuff that is a direct result of sexism and male entitlementYou're using hyperbole. It's not "so extreme it's insane", when shit like this happens:
I can see why a woman would think of a culture as a 'rape culture' after something like that
And if a woman experienced that and decided to not look up any actual facts, etc. I can sure see how she'd think it was a rape culture too.
Doesn't mean they still shouldn't be corrected when they go spew this shit to other young women.
Originally posted by SurturWe're not saying to make anything illegal, we're just saying that men need to sort their ****ing shit out and stop acting like they're allowed to leer and shout at every woman that crosses their path. This isn't about law, this about culture.
But again, I have covered that. I think if the same person repeatedly keeps doing that it is harassment. If someone just says "nice ass" as she walks by...it's rude and vulgar, but I don't consider it harassment.What is next? Asking for a phone number is harassment too? Cheesy pick up lines?
Originally posted by Surtur
But again, I have covered that. I think if the same person repeatedly keeps doing that it is harassment. If someone just says "nice ass" as she walks by...it's rude and vulgar, but I don't consider it harassment.What is next? Asking for a phone number is harassment too? Cheesy pick up lines?
You don't consider saying "Nice ass" to a girl you don't know "harrassment"?
You're serious right now?
Asking for her phone number isn't harrassment, nor are cheesy pick-up lines. Those are two completely different things.
Originally posted by Surtur"Oh, you got raped by two cops and threatened to not say anything by nine more? Well, [i]lady/i[], you got your semantics wrong, so go get yourself educated"
And if a woman experienced that and decided to not look up any actual facts, etc. I can sure see how she'd think it was a rape culture too.Doesn't mean they still shouldn't be corrected when they go spew this shit to other young women.
Originally posted by Scribble
Does the word matter that much when this stuff is happening? "Psychotic self-entitled straight male culture" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, even if it is very accurate
Lol uh, that ship has sailed. The "do words matter" ship. When we've had people b*tch at others for using the wrong pronoun, yep, words matter. You don't get to cherry pick when they do. Feminists think they do get to do that, it's why less and less women identify as feminists.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
You don't consider saying "Nice ass" to a girl you don't know "harrassment"?You're serious right now?
Asking for her phone number isn't harrassment, nor are cheesy pick-up lines. Those are two completely different things.
I don't see it as sexual harassment no.
And holy shit, I've had this happen. I have had women say that to me. Was I sexually harassed? Yes or no?