Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you serious?He downed the Hulk temporarily with a few punches and kicks. Granted it was Ultimate Hulk, but still....
Look at what he did to Giant Man etc. He was going holding his own against that crazy Nazi alien shape shifting Super Soldier etc. who is seems to be incredibly strong.
A hulk who was hurt from Ironman/calmed down by wasp/tank drop. Yes he put him down "briefly". Once the Hulk fought back U.Cap didn't stand a chance.
So?
Cap has downed The wrecking crew members as the Rhino. He even batted around King Thor with "circumstances" like U.Cap as well.
Giant Man you mean the one he beat with falling girders? Yeah thats impressive but 616 Cap's rival Taskmaster beat 3 Giant Men and much easier then U.Cap. 616 Cap has done well against Giant Man as well.
Cap has held his own against a Superhuman Scroll that was very durable and has held his own against many superhuman strong characters.
Don't get me wrong I think U.Cap is stronger but not by a lot.
Originally posted by Daredevil1You're still going on about how Ult. Hulk was calmed down by Ult. Wasp? What makes you think a hornier Ult. Hulk is calmer? Certainly didn't show when he was screaming about how he wanted to do things to Betty the whole time he's raging through Manhattan. And calmed down by a tank dropping on him? Haha. Yeah... Ult. Hulk was so calm he was only strong enough to tear through the tank like it was a piece of paper. Yeah, real calm. Lulz.
A hulk who was hurt from Ironman/calmed down by wasp/tank drop. Yes he put him down "briefly". Once the Hulk fought back U.Cap didn't stand a chance.So?
Cap has downed The wrecking crew members as the Rhino. He even batted around King Thor with "circumstances" like U.Cap as well.
Giant Man you mean the one he beat with falling girders? Yeah thats impressive but 616 Cap's rival Taskmaster beat 3 Giant Men and much easier then U.Cap. 616 Cap has done well against Giant Man as well.
Cap has held his own against a Superhuman Scroll that was very durable and has held his own against many superhuman strong characters.
Don't get me wrong I think U.Cap is stronger but not by a lot.
Did you read Ultimates 3 when Ult. Cap was posing as Ult. Black Panther? Did you read when Ult. Cap blocked Zarda's axe swing without the benefit of a nifty force-absorbing shield? Do you continue to ignore all the strength feats he did have prior to all that? Never mind, the answer's quite obvious.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're still going on about how Ult. Hulk was calmed down by Ult. Wasp? What makes you think a hornier Ult. Hulk is calmer? Certainly didn't show when he was screaming about how he wanted to do things to Betty the whole time he's raging through Manhattan. And calmed down by a tank dropping on him? Haha. Yeah... Ult. Hulk was so calm he was only strong enough to tear through the tank like it was a piece of paper. Yeah, real calm. Lulz.Did you read Ultimates 3 when Ult. Cap was posing as Ult. Black Panther? Did you read when Ult. Cap blocked Zarda's axe swing without the benefit of a nifty force-absorbing shield? Do you continue to ignore all the strength feats he did have prior to all that? Never mind, the answer's quite obvious.
Yeah its quite obvious U.Cap got weaker LOL. Since its not that impressive his feats in Ultimates v3. Blocked Zarda's sword....so what. Yes Wasp did calm him down. Wow he broke through a tank. That speaks class 100 + for sure. Definitely on 616 Hulk level.
Your still going on about he's a lot stronger yet you fail to prove so every time.
Originally posted by Daredevil1😑
Yeah its quite obvious U.Cap got weaker LOL. Since its not that impressive his feats in Ultimates v3. Blocked Zarda's sword....so what. Yes Wasp did calm him down. Wow he broke through a tank. That speaks class 100 + for sure. Definitely on 616 Hulk level.Your still going on about he's a lot stronger yet you fail to prove so every time.
Getting the last shot on Cytorrak-enhanced Ult. Juggernaut and blocking the axe of Zarda means Ult. Cap got weaker?! Wow. All kidding aside, I really don't know what to say to that other than you came out to the exact opposite conclusion that you should have. You're not even dismissing those feats or ignoring them. You're looking at them and suggesting that Ult. Cap is weaker. Both of those foes are well past 100+ class. Get a grip.
And your snide remarks about Ult. Hulk and the tank are pure straw-man argumentation. Ult. Hulk does not need to be 616 Hulk for Ult. Cap's feats to place him at a much higher strength level than 616 Cap. You've essentially relegated yourself to concocting and relying on busted myths. Get a clue.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
😑Getting the last shot on Cytorrak-enhanced Ult. Juggernaut and blocking the axe of Zarda means Ult. Cap got weaker?! Wow. All kidding aside, I really don't know what to say to that other than you came out to the exact opposite conclusion that you should have. You're not even dismissing those feats or ignoring them. You're looking at them and suggesting that Ult. Cap is weaker. Both of those foes are well past 100+ class. Get a grip.
And your snide remarks about Ult. Hulk and the tank are pure straw-man argumentation. Ult. Hulk does not need to be 616 Hulk for Ult. Cap's feats to place him at a much higher strength level than 616 Cap. You've essentially relegated yourself to concocting and relying on busted myths. Get a clue.
Last shot wasn't that impressive on Cytorrak since he wasn't shown anywhere to be out plus since the room was filled with gas hence why U.Cap was wearing a gas mask. Plus I don't even think he had the Cytorrak power at the time like when he fought U.Collosus. Clearly even if U.Cap did that. Which he didn't even 616 Cap has a feat of KO ing Hulk which is a high end feat. 616 Cap putting down Thunder Ball and Rhino is just as impressive or then some.
Point is if U.Cap is a lot stronger his stories have failed to show it. Stronger yes......a lot stronger no. I don't even think the Handbooks support you on this. You claim he's at 10 tons like USAgent yet no were in the hand books say he's 10 tons. I think even one of them pegged him at 1 or 2 tons. Which isn't a lot compared to Cap's 800 lbs.
Originally posted by Daredevil1... I'm talking about when Ult. Cap confronted Ult. Juggernaut in Ultimates 3.
Last shot wasn't that impressive on Cytorrak since he wasn't shown anywhere to be out plus since the room was filled with gas hence why U.Cap was wearing a gas mask. Plus I don't even think he had the Cytorrak power at the time like when he fought U.Collosus. Clearly even if U.Cap did that. Which he didn't even 616 Cap has a feat of KO ing Hulk which is a high end feat. 616 Cap putting down Thunder Ball and Rhino is just as impressive or then some.Point is if U.Cap is a lot stronger his stories have failed to show it. Stronger yes......a lot stronger no. I don't even think the Handbooks support you on this. You claim he's at 10 tons like USAgent yet no were in the hand books say he's 10 tons. I think even one of them pegged him at 1 or 2 tons. Which isn't a lot compared to Cap's 800 lbs.
Still lulz at your excuses regarding the former Ult. juggernaut incident and ultimately besides the point. Also, you don't address Ult. Cap defending against Zarda's attack without the benefit of a force-absorbing shield. But why would I expect you to?
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Last shot wasn't that impressive on Cytorrak since he wasn't shown anywhere to be out plus since the room was filled with gas hence why U.Cap was wearing a gas mask. Plus I don't even think he had the Cytorrak power at the time like when he fought U.Collosus. Clearly even if U.Cap did that. Which he didn't even 616 Cap has a feat of KO ing Hulk which is a high end feat. 616 Cap putting down Thunder Ball and Rhino is just as impressive or then some.Point is if U.Cap is a lot stronger his stories have failed to show it. Stronger yes......a lot stronger no. I don't even think the Handbooks support you on this. You claim he's at 10 tons like USAgent yet no were in the hand books say he's 10 tons. I think even one of them pegged him at 1 or 2 tons. Which isn't a lot compared to Cap's 800 lbs.
616 cap hasn't ko'd hulk....