Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Prove that an old Brooklyn gym has weights that would measure in the 10 tons level. Then prove that U. Cap was working out to his max capacity.
I knew it. Gold mine like landing on the moon. Go proving he's a lot stronger then Cap and proving he's at 10 ton class is gold.
I told ya'll that it was hilarious.
Originally posted by Daredevil1In your delusional mind it's hilarious. Considering I've been debating with someone who's stated that Cap one-shots Korvac, who accuses me of dodging a feat that he never bothers to mention, or reads 12 minutes to be 1 minute, I'm sure a lot of people are laughing. And let me assure you, you are the butt of the joke.
I knew it. Gold mine like landing on the moon. Go proving he's a lot stronger then Cap and proving he's at 10 ton class is gold.I told ya'll that it was hilarious.
Your flood of posts does not diminish the inanity of many of your comments. Your prodigious use of ad hominem, projection and double-standards does nothing to inflate your arguments with substance. Your constant dodging and meandering around U. Cap's feats is nothing short of ignorance. And the fact that everybody is arguing with you should give you a clue. But considering how much you failed to do much of anything except make a fool of yourself, that would be hoping for too much.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Hornier but not angrier. Look at his face expression and eyes yeah. He didn't look angry in the least.
He didn't look angry in the least?
Dude, he was a ranging brute before. Now he was a raging brute with a hard on. He looked extremely horny for one panel, and in the next, he is a pissed off brute as Ultimate Captain America drops a tank.
The Hulk gets stronger, the angrier he gets, and he looked extremely pissed when off, when Ultimate Captain America dropped a tank on him from god knows what height.
Any amount that Janet calmed him down, went out the window the moment, Captain America attacked him.
Since we are going by facial expressions alone, did you see how pissed off he looked when he was fighting Ultimate Captain America?
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yeah he hurt him all right. U.Hulk was like puking his guts out vomiting. Then he did a last ditch strike out of a building.
He puked, after having a thought scrambler blast that took practically all of Iron Man's power to the head. That just shows how powerful Ultimate Captain America truly is to survive the beating he did and hurt the Hulk in the way he did. Not only was Iron Man not able to put the Ultimate Hulk down, all he could do was slow him down with a thought scrambler that pissed him off even more.
Where Iron Man couldn’t do without resorting to thought scramblers, Ultimate Captain America was able too. Although, it was an extremely short lived victory.
What last ditch effort?
After Ultimate Iron Man slowed him down for a few seconds, it seemed he was able to knock the Hulk out of the building and into the street. The Hulk got right back up unharmed next panel.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yes it did. Point is he was still hurt from Ironman and Tank drop. Besides U.Cap put him down briefly is all which is impressive. Nothing that exceeds 616 Cap. Shoot in U.Cap's next fight with U.Thor they were concerned for U.Cap and U.Cap had to use a flame thrower against U.Thor. U.Cap stood no chance against U.Hulk outside from the circumstances that occurred.
Hurt?
The tank drop didn’t even seem to give him as much as a scratch. After Ultimate Captain America dropped the tank on him, the Hulk got right back up next panel, and literally ripped through that shock absorbing tank as if it was made of paper. Ultimate Captain America proceeded to put him down physically (Although short lived.), after he ripped through a metal tank as if it was made of paper and survived a beating with only a fractured/broken arm. A beating from the same being who downed Ultimate Thor in a single hit.
Christ, he took punches from an enraged, pissed off, Hulk to the face, and only had a few drops of blood to show it. He took hits from the Hulk, when he was at his angriest, by a margin as seen until that point in the entire Ultimate Universe.
Circumstance?
Everything seemed direct and clear to everyone but you it seems…
Of course they were concerned. It was "Thor". Yea, that's a bad showing. Standing up to Thor....
So what if he used a flame thrower? Thor had Mjolnir.
Seriously, trying to demean the feats isn’t going to make them seem less impressive.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Sure he did.Now there was circumstances like the U.Cap vs U.Hulk but you get the idea.
I was referring to another incident.
The fight between Ultimate Hulk and Ultimate Captain America, is completely different than what happened here.
“Context”.
The only reason, he even phased Thor here, was because Balder had a sword to his infant child, and was threatening to kill him. The moment Loki got him out of harms way, Thor disintegrated Captain America along with his shield.
Those two occurrences are completely different. In one Captain America only lived because, Thor didn’t want to kill him. In the other, Captain America, took him down on his “own”. He was able to put him down, and was able to survive a beating, with only a hurt arm, and a few cuts, here and there.
They are completely different. In one instance, there were complications; it was a matter of circumstance that 616 Captain America even able to affect Thor as you said. In the Hulk fight, it’s clear and direct. They fought, and Ultimate Captain America, accomplished everything he did, on his own.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
And? He outsmarted clumsy Pym and then had lots of construction girders fall on him. Good fight but again how the heck does that even prove he's a lot stronger then Captain America. LOL
Still, trying to demean his feats?
He outsmarted a clumsy Pym?
He jumped out of a window, and was able to manhandle Pym into a ditch, and then defeated him.
He physically was able to kick his ass.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Look.
I looked and what am I seeing?
I see, Taskmaster making 3 giant beings fall by hitting their Achilles tendon.
Give Hawkeye a shield, and he could do the same thing with his aim; again, different situations.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Context is important you say. Taskmaster manhandled 3 Giant Men and curb stomps all over U.Cap vs U.Hank Pym. Doesn't mean he's as strong as 616 Cap though.
Taskmaster didn’t “manhandle” them. He strategically took them out, by attacking a weak point every human has (As you have shown.). He didn’t leap at them unarmed, and physically force them down etc.
True, Ultimate Captain America, in the end used a circular object to cut down girders to defeat Giant Man in the end.
Taskmaster, used a tool to strategically take out, those beings, who were giving a lesson, and from what I read from you're "scans", they seem unprepared for the attack as well. Can you not tell the differences in that fight?
Like he said, anyone can take him down that way if they have the right tools.
It’s different from how Ultimate Captain America fought Giant Man.
This is all extremely obvious, so why am I explaining this to you?
Stomp Ultimate Giant Man?
An unarmed Taskmaster will have a tough time taking him out. He would have to improvise in the end.
Stomp Ultimate Captain America?
You mean the same Taskmaster who had his ass handed to him by Deadpool?
How do you like it?
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Look besides the above of Cap affecting King Thor.
😆
This is rich. Here he is talking about context, and then he tries to use the above Thor encounter as an example.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Cap has even downed Thunder Ball as Thunder Ball even spouted blood and was seeing stars from Cap's punch. IIRC Cap even defeated the Wrecker. Context is important so as you say.
Made the Wrecker bleed you say? Well, big whoop. Spider Woman practically hit off his jaw with one swing from his crow bar.
Also when did he defeat the Wrecker?
I don’t recall it happening, so I can’t comment on it. Issue or scans?
Context changes everything.
Made Thunder Ball bleed and spouting stars/
You mean the time Kelsey Leigh had to use Captain America’s own shield to save his life, after Thunder Ball knocked his ass out, and was about to kill him?
Yea, stars, and spouting blood….
Circumstance and context change things greatly. I’ve seen a team of 3 weaker people ta
Originally posted by Daredevil1
I was just making sure you understood that the Scroll that Cap KO'ed was at a superhuman level. Since it possible that not all Scrolls are super strong. Wrong use of terms.
Oh, okay then. I recall the “Scroll” now. He was a pretty big power house. I mean the “Scroll” even tangled with the “Quill” a few times.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Rolling eyes has always been good evidence for U.Cap being "a lot stronger" then 616 Cap. shrugs.
Sarcasm does not become you.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[B]He didn't look angry in the least?Dude, he was a ranging brute before. Now he was a raging brute with a hard on. He looked extremely horny for one panel, and in the next, he is a pissed off brute as Ultimate Captain America drops a tank.
The Hulk gets stronger, the angrier he gets, and he looked extremely pissed when off, when Ultimate Captain America dropped a tank on him from god knows what height.
Any amount that Janet calmed him down, went out the window the moment, Captain America attacked him.
Since we are going by facial expressions alone, did you see how pissed off he looked when he was fighting Ultimate Captain America?
Of course he looked pissed but those prior circumstances helped softened him up for U.Cap. U.Ironman making him puke his guts out and knocking him out of a building. Wasp calming him down then a tank drop.
Then U.Cap downed him briefly.
Once U.Hulk really fought back U.Cap stood no chance whatsoever and treated him like a gnat besides U.Thor saving him the other time.
He puked, after having a thought scrambler blast that took practically all of Iron Man's power to the head. That just shows how powerful Ultimate Captain America truly is to survive the beating he did and hurt the Hulk in the way he did. Not only was Iron Man not able to put the Ultimate Hulk down, all he could do was slow him down with a thought scrambler that pissed him off even more.Where Iron Man couldn’t do without resorting to thought scramblers, Ultimate Captain America was able too. Although, it was an extremely short lived victory.
What last ditch effort?
After Ultimate Iron Man slowed him down for a few seconds, it seemed he was able to knock the Hulk out of the building and into the street. The Hulk got right back up unharmed next panel.
Hurt?
The tank drop didn’t even seem to give him as much as a scratch. After Ultimate Captain America dropped the tank on him, the Hulk got right back up next panel, and literally ripped through that shock absorbing tank as if it was made of paper. Ultimate Captain America proceeded to put him down physically (Although short lived.), after he ripped through a metal tank as if it was made of paper and survived a beating with only a fractured/broken arm. A beating from the same being who downed Ultimate Thor in a single hit.
Yet he didn't break out of the tank instantly. Notice they even noticed small movement taking place after the tank crash. Accumulation adds up. Yes U.Cap's durability is impressive doesn't change the fact of the circumstances prior to his fight with U.Cap.
Christ, he took punches from an enraged, pissed off, Hulk to the face, and only had a few drops of blood to show it. He took hits from the Hulk, when he was at his angriest, by a margin as seen until that point in the entire Ultimate Universe.Circumstance?
Everything seemed direct and clear to everyone but you it seems…
Sure its clear as crystal. He brought down the U.Hulk briefly via prior circumstances only to show he was literally "no" match for U.Hulk at all as U.Thor had to save him. Impressive durability but lets not pretend on whats not going on. Bringing down U.Hulk breifly with prior circumstances is impressive. Don't get me wrong but this is a more impressive.
Of course they were concerned. It was "Thor". Yea, that's a bad showing. Standing up to Thor....So what if he used a flame thrower? Thor had Mjolnir.
Seriously, trying to demean the feats isn’t going to make them seem less impressive.
Not demeaning. Its just what it is. They were concerned for U.Cap as they should be since he really doesn't stand a chance against those bricks other then certain circumstances aiding him.
I was referring to another incident.The fight between Ultimate Hulk and Ultimate Captain America, is completely different than what happened here.
“Context”.
The only reason, he even phased Thor here, was because Balder had a sword to his infant child, and was threatening to kill him. The moment Loki got him out of harms way, Thor disintegrated Captain America along with his shield.
Those two occurrences are completely different. In one Captain America only lived because, Thor didn’t want to kill him. In the other, Captain America, took him down on his “own”. He was able to put him down, and was able to survive a beating, with only a hurt arm, and a few cuts, here and there.
They are completely different. In one instance, there were complications; it was a matter of circumstance that 616 Captain America even able to affect Thor as you said. In the Hulk fight, it’s clear and direct. They fought, and Ultimate Captain America, accomplished everything he did, on his own.
Its not even debatable that it was on his own. There was no own. Yeah I'm sure King Thor was selling those strikes and let himself get batted around like a punching bag to even when he gets dropped to even put his hand on his head to look even more miserable. Maybe he Thor should have gone the Wonderman route and go Hollywood if thats the case. 🙄
Still, trying to demean his feats?He outsmarted a clumsy Pym?
He jumped out of a window, and was able to manhandle Pym into a ditch, and then defeated him.
He physically was able to kick his ass.
Manhandle Pym into a ditch. Do you even look at the scans. Pym is over a ledge. Notice Ult Cap doesn't leap out for a tackle at his stomach but jumps out at his face for leverage and vulnerability and brings him down. Now thats skill not manhandle. You want manhandle watch U.Hulk vs U.Pym to get an idea.
I looked and what am I seeing?I see, Taskmaster making 3 giant beings fall by hitting their Achilles tendon.
Give Hawkeye a shield, and he could do the same thing with his aim; again, different situations.
Taskmaster didn’t “manhandle” them. He strategically took them out, by attacking a weak point every human has (As you have shown.). He didn’t leap at them unarmed, and physically force them down etc.
True, Ultimate Captain America, in the end used a circular object to cut down girders to defeat Giant Man in the end.
Taskmaster, used a tool to strategically take out, those beings, who were giving a lesson, and from what I read from you're "scans", they seem unprepared for the attack as well. Can you not tell the differences in that fight?
Like he said, anyone can take him down that way if they have the right tools.
It’s different from how Ultimate Captain America fought Giant Man.
This is all extremely obvious, so why am I explaining this to you?
Stomp Ultimate Giant Man?
An unarmed Taskmaster will have a tough time taking him out. He would have to improvise in the end.
Stomp Ultimate Captain America?
You mean the same Taskmaster who had his ass handed to him by Deadpool?
How do you like it?
Taskmaster did it with his shield and skillful strikes. Ult Cap did it through tactically outsmarting clumsy Pym. Now who's fooling himself. HA! Ult Cap even had to use girders. Anyone can see thats no manhandle but Ult Cap using his tactical genius and environment for his aid. Taskmaster having the disadvantage against Deadpool is supposed to be bad. So what U.Cap was barely beating Nightowl a regular human and barely at that. Taskmaster has even had Spiderman on the ropes before.
😆This is rich. Here he is talking about context, and then he tries to use the above Thor encounter as an example.
Made the Wrecker bleed you say? Well, big whoop. Spider Woman practically hit off his jaw with one swing from his crow bar.
Also when did he defeat the Wrecker?
I don’t recall it happening, so I can’t comment on it. Issue or scans?
He KO'ed the Wrecker by via skillfull shield strikes. But this is the Wrecker after all.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3885/wreckerbl2.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/856/wrecker2xs9.jpg
Context changes everything.Made Thunder Ball bleed and spouting stars/
You mean the time Kelsey Leigh had to use Captain America’s own shield to save his life, after Thunder Ball knocked his ass out, and was about to kill him?
Yea, stars, and spouting blood….
Circumstance and context change things greatly. I’ve seen a team of 3 weaker people ta
True but Thunder Ball KO'ing Cap doesn't change the fact that Cap brought him down briefly made him bleed and see stars from just 1 punch to the face. All this and no fancy Ironman fighting him or a tank drop at that. Context is important shoot a page or two before Cap fought Thunderball. Hawkeye even warns Cap that Thunderball has taken hits from Thor himself. So the context is there.
Oh, okay then. I recall the “Scroll” now. He was a pretty big power house. I mean the “Scroll” even tangled with the “Quill” a few times.Sarcasm does not become you. [/B]
Not sure what Quill your reffering to. The Scroll I'm talking about got owned by Cap. And this Scroll in particular could even take a punch from the ever loving blue eye'd Thing and get back up.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
To be fair, 616 Cap has lifted and tossed away a tree, too. Can't find the scan right now, but it should be somewhere in his respect thread.I'm thinking about that one with narrator's comment: (...) But what a man can do, Captain America will do!
616 Cap's tree feat wasn't that impressive IMO. But here's Cap breaking out of cryogenic freeze from the inside. You might like this one better.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4712/captainamerica444p22uk1.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1307/captainamerica44503zw3.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3151/captainamerica4450405al5.jpg
He also has some insane ones like his ICBM shield throw. CBR deems it SvsFL because he would literally have to have Spiderman level strength to throw his shield at a in flight ICBM missile.
Gotta go with 616 versions.
Ult Cap seems stronger that his regular counterpart but 616 has far more experience.
There's been like 1 appearance from Blade so it's hard to judge how powerful he is. And due to his limited appearances we have to go with 616 Blade as he has the feats and experience.
616 Wolverine is far better than Ult Wolverine, no question.
Originally posted by Daredevil1For your information, Sharon had the Red Skull technicians initiate the unfreezing process before Cap begins to break out.
616 Cap's tree feat wasn't that impressive IMO. But here's Cap breaking out of cryogenic freeze from the inside. You might like this one better.http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4712/captainamerica444p22uk1.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1307/captainamerica44503zw3.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3151/captainamerica4450405al5.jpgHe also has some insane ones like his ICBM shield throw. CBR deems it SvsFL because he would literally have to have Spiderman level strength to throw his shield at a in flight ICBM missile.
The missile was not a traditional ICBM. Most ICBMS are incredibly large. This was a much smaller rocket and immediately after lift-off may only have accelerated to 100 mph. Cap, with his relative super-strength, throwing his aerodynamic shield at 200 mph or even just 150 mph means that the shield hit Falcon's restraints at 100 mph or 50 mph. With it's slicing edge, those speeds are more than sufficient. And considering that baseball pitchers with well-below peak-human strength can throw baseballs at over 100 mph, it's not a stretch to think that someone with over peak-human strength can throw an aerodynamic shield at twice that speed or even 1.5X that speed. It's not PIS.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And considering that baseball pitchers with well-below peak-human strength can throw baseballs at over 100 mph, it's not a stretch to think that someone with over peak-human strength can throw an aerodynamic shield at twice that speed or even 1.5X that speed. It's not PIS.
Is it ever been specified how much the shield weighs? I imagine there's a difference between a baseball and a large, metal shield?
Edit: Nevermind, it's 12 pounds apparantly.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
For your information, Sharon had the Red Skull technicians initiate the unfreezing process before Cap begins to break out.
Show me were it saids on page/panel "initiate unfreezing", then I'll believe you.
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure I checked and "no" were does it say that.
Plus don't you think we would see melting water or liquid on the scan were Cap first started to break it.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1307/captainamerica44503zw3.jpg
But we don't.
The missile was not a traditional ICBM. Most ICBMS are incredibly large. This was a much smaller rocket and immediately after lift-off may only have accelerated to 100 mph. Cap, with his relative super-strength, throwing his aerodynamic shield at 200 mph or even just 150 mph means that the shield hit Falcon's restraints at 100 mph or 50 mph. With it's slicing edge, those speeds are more than sufficient. And considering that baseball pitchers with well-below peak-human strength can throw baseballs at over 100 mph, it's not a stretch to think that someone with over peak-human strength can throw an aerodynamic shield at twice that speed or even 1.5X that speed. It's not PIS.
That was pretty darn large also its already around the clouds anyhow. So yes CBR is right and you are wrong.
Shoot you were wrong in U.Cap matching U.Spiderman in strength since Spiderman was nervous and holding back anyways. For example when U.Cap was hitting Ult abom only his face was turning. Ult Spiderman on the otherhand sent ult abom flying.
Stuff you always seem to forget about eh? hehehehe.
🙂
Originally posted by Daredevil1... on the preceding pages where Sharon and the scientists initiate the unfreezing and run out of the room to prepare for the next stage, which was testing Cap's abilities via attacking him with batons... You do have the comic in front of you, don't you? Or are you relying on someone else's scanned images and reading them in isolation?
Show me were it saids on page/panel "initiate unfreezing", then I'll believe you.I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure I checked and "no" were does it say that.
Plus don't you think we would see melting water or liquid on the scan were Cap first started to break it.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1307/captainamerica44503zw3.jpg
But we don't.
Originally posted by Daredevil1... what? I don't even know if you could qualify that as an argument anymore. I was trying to lend credence to the feat, not cast it aside as PIS. And I find it so baffling that you, who are struggling to find strength feats for 616 Cap, would start arguing with me when I'm trying to legitimize that feat. Seriously. You just threw a feat out there and said, "this is amazing, but some other people think it's PIS." And then I suggest it's not PIS, and you start proclaiming that I'm wrong? If anything, I was helping your argument. 🤨
That was pretty darn large also its already around the clouds anyhow. So yes CBR is right and you are wrong.Shoot you were wrong in U.Cap matching U.Spiderman in strength since Spiderman was nervous and holding back anyways. For example when U.Cap was hitting Ult abom only his face was turning. Ult Spiderman on the otherhand sent ult abom flying.
Stuff you always seem to forget about eh? hehehehe.
Ult. Spiderman never fought Ult. Abomination. facepalm
If you're referring to Ult. Green Goblin, Ult. Spidey walked towards him and cheap-shotted Ult. Green Goblin who was completely unprepared for his attack. So we don't know whether Ult. Spidey punching Ult. Goblin while they're both actually facing each other, would be able to send him flying. Also, we don't know whether Ult. Cap landing a similar surprise attack on a strong, durable, heavy opponent wouldn't be able to send him flying either. Oh wait. Yes we do. Because, as we've already seen Ult. Cap sending Ult. Juggernaut flying horizontally through a wall. 🙄
I mean, seriously, are you incapable of linking several facts together when you make your outlandish claims? You just completely set yourself up when you relied on the feat of sending a strong, durable, heavy opponent flying with a cheap shot as a showing of superior strength and you completely forgot that Ult. Cap did the same exact thing to Ult. Juggernaut, who's bigger and heavier than Ult. Goblin.
And your constant misunderstanding of names makes me wonder whether you actually read these comics. Mistaking Ult. Juggs for Hard-Drive, mistaking Ult. Abom for Ult. Goblin... and then for the last few pages you keep talking about "Scrolls." They're "Skrulls." How the hell do you manage to mispell that more than once after another poster starts subtly jabbing you for your misspelling? S. K. R. U. L. L. S. Are you daft or something? Stop giggling like a village idiot and get a grip. 😕
I am so utterly embarassed for you.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
... on the preceding pages where Sharon and the scientists initiate the unfreezing and run out of the room to prepare for the next stage, which was testing Cap's abilities via attacking him with batons... You do have the comic in front of you, don't you? Or are you relying on someone else's scanned images?
Indeed I do. I'm looking at it "right" now and again no were does it say's unfreezing anywhere. Are you just lying? Lets see a scan of this.
... what? I don't even know if you could qualify that as an argument anymore. I was trying to lend credence to the feat, not cast it aside as PIS. And I find it so baffling that you, who are struggling to find strength feats for 616 Cap, would start arguing with me when I'm trying to legitimize that feat. Seriously. You just threw a feat out there and said, "this is amazing, but some other people think it's PIS." And then I suggest it's not PIS, and you start proclaiming that I'm wrong? If anything, I was helping your argument. 🤨Ult. Spiderman never fought Ult. Abomination. facepalm
If you're referring to Ult. Green Goblin, Ult. Spidey walked towards him and cheap-shotted Ult. Green Goblin who was completely unprepared for his attack. So we don't know whether Ult. Spidey punching Ult. Goblin while they're both actually facing each other, would be able to send him flying. Also, we don't know whether Ult. Cap landing a similar surprise attack on a strong, durable, heavy opponent wouldn't be able to send him flying either. Oh wait. Yes we do. Because, as we've already seen Ult. Cap sending Ult. Juggernaut flying horizontally through a wall. 🙄
I mean, seriously, are you incapable of linking several facts together when you make your outlandish claims? You just completely set yourself up when you relied on the feat of sending a strong, durable, heavy opponent flying with a cheap shot as a showing of superior strength and you completely forgot that Ult. Cap did the same exact thing to Ult. Juggernaut, who's bigger and heavier than Ult. Goblin.
And your constant misunderstanding of names makes me wonder whether you actually read these comics. Mistaking Ult. Juggs for Hard-Drive, mistaking Ult. Abom for Ult. Goblin... and then for the last few pages you keep talking about "Scrolls." They're "Skrulls." How the hell do you manage to mispell that more than once after another poster starts subtly jabbing you for your misspelling? S. K. R. U. L. L. S. Are you daft or something? Stop giggling like a village idiot and get a grip. 😕
I am so utterly embarassed for you.
So be embarrassed. Again I see Ult Spide strike greater then Ult cap. Cap even hit him more and couldn't put him down while Ult Spiderman did with 1 lone shot. Plus you did notice Ult Spiderman trembling even before he grappled with Ult Cap did you?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You can't even bring yourself to read my arguments anymore and rebut them, can you? Honestly, this is pathetic.
Hey chill. Your the one lying produce the scan of Sharon saying initiate unfreeze or page. Let see it since I have the book in front of me and no were does it say that.
^ Oh BS. Scan the fuggin pages. I'm at my work computer right now. SCAN THE PAGES.
Originally posted by Daredevil1They're both trembling because they're both extering their strength against each other. You even see the divots of turf beneath their feet. Gawd.
Indeed I do. I'm looking at it "right" now and again no were does it say's unfreezing anywhere. Are you just lying? Lets see a scan of this.So be embarrassed. Again I see Ult Spide strike greater then Ult cap. Cap even hit him more and couldn't put him down while Ult Spiderman did with 1 lone shot. Plus you did notice Ult Spiderman trembling even before he grappled with Ult Cap did you?
