Based on Belt of Strength-amped, Odinforce-armored classic Thor's decisive victory over an Illumination Stone/Chalice of Ruins-amped Thanos clone in the Tears of the Gods storyline, it's very arguable that Odinforce Thor wins over Thanos.
Unless you are of the opinion that a BoS-amped, Odinforce-armored classic Thor is stronger than Odinforce Thor. Or unless you are of the opinion that an Illumination Stone/Chalice of Ruins-amped is significantly weaker than unamped Thanos.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Based on Belt of Strength-amped, Odinforce-armored classic Thor's decisive victory over an Illumination Stone/Chalice of Ruins-amped Thanos clone in the Tears of the Gods storyline, it's very arguable that Odinforce Thor wins over Thanos.Unless you are of the opinion that a BoS-amped, Odinforce-armored classic Thor is stronger than Odinforce Thor. Or unless you are of the opinion that an Illumination Stone/Chalice of Ruins-amped is significantly weaker than unamped Thanos.
To further add on to your argument, the Thanos clone with all those items was capable of destroying the unvierse supposedly.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Based on Belt of Strength-amped, Odinforce-armored classic Thor's decisive victory over an Illumination Stone/Chalice of Ruins-amped Thanos clone in the Tears of the Gods storyline, it's very arguable that Odinforce Thor wins over Thanos.Unless you are of the opinion that a BoS-amped, Odinforce-armored classic Thor is stronger than Odinforce Thor. Or unless you are of the opinion that an Illumination Stone/Chalice of Ruins-amped is significantly weaker than unamped Thanos.
Odinforce Thor > Thor during that arc, true.
But I believe Thanos does point out during Infinity Abyss that that clone was a weaker model. And while the clone did have amps, wasn't it only with regard to unleashing waves of death throughout the universe, or something along those lines? Its been a little while since I've read it. I do remember Thanos' blasts going right through Thor's Odinforce amping shield, though.
Two reasons why I don't believe the "Classic Thor should put up a good fight against Thanos." Thanos has already beaten Classic Thor while he was being aided by the rest of the Avengers. This was pre-first-death Thanos. Secondly, even while Thor was in WM and amped by the Power Gem, Thanos had the advantage in their combat (look at the exchange and you'll see Thanos not only landed more blows but floored Thor more times than Thor floored Thanos.) Thirdly, if you look at the entire Walker the Death God arc (I don't recall the actual title of the storyline) Thanos is portrayed as being more powerful there, as well. The real kicker is with Odin. Thanos took him on two hours after expending energy fighting the aforementioned amped Thor, as well as wiping out the Asgardian army. He did well, all things considered (don't worry, I won't be Quan and say he could've beat him.) Thor, on the other hand, has been one-shot by Odin. The power difference between Thor and Thanos is incredibly noticable. Hell, even in Infinity War, Quasar casts his quantum shields over Thanos and the Infinity Watch. The rest of the heroes attempt to break into it, launching energy blasts, etc. Thor tosses Mjolnir at it. Nothing happens. Not even a scratch. Thanos shatters the shielding easily with one blast.
Thanos wipes the floor with Classic Thor, Surfer, Superman, and any other high herald barring plot devices or unusual showings. He's in a different class of power. IE, above high-herald.
Originally posted by Enyalusuhuh
Odinforce Thor > Thor during that arc, true.But I believe Thanos does point out during Infinity Abyss that that clone was a weaker model. And while the clone did have amps, wasn't it only with regard to unleashing waves of death throughout the universe, or something along those lines? Its been a little while since I've read it. I do remember Thanos' blasts going right through Thor's Odinforce amping shield, though.
Two reasons why I don't believe the "Classic Thor should put up a good fight against Thanos." Thanos has already beaten Classic Thor while he was being aided by the rest of the Avengers. This was pre-first-death Thanos. Secondly, even while Thor was in WM and amped by the Power Gem, Thanos had the advantage in their combat (look at the exchange and you'll see Thanos not only landed more blows but floored Thor more times than Thor floored Thanos.) Thirdly, if you look at the entire Walker the Death God arc (I don't recall the actual title of the storyline) Thanos is portrayed as being more powerful there, as well. The real kicker is with Odin. Thanos took him on two hours after expending energy fighting the aforementioned amped Thor, as well as wiping out the Asgardian army. He did well, all things considered (don't worry, I won't be Quan and say he could've beat him.) Thor, on the other hand, has been one-shot by Odin. The power difference between Thor and Thanos is incredibly noticable. Hell, even in Infinity War, Quasar casts his quantum shields over Thanos and the Infinity Watch. The rest of the heroes attempt to break into it, launching energy blasts, etc. Thor tosses Mjolnir at it. Nothing happens. Not even a scratch. Thanos shatters the shielding easily with one blast.
Thanos wipes the floor with Classic Thor, Surfer, Superman, and any other high herald barring plot devices or unusual showings. He's in a different class of power. IE, above high-herald.
Walks away quietly in contemplation...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYes, he could.
Are you actually trying to debate that Thanos can defeat Odin in combat?Okay, he doesn't have any Galaxy busting feats etc. for a time now, but seriously?
No matter how you look at it.
Odin > Thanos
By a margin. How big a margin depends on what feats you take into account etc.
Collateral damage doesn't make someone more powerful imo especially when we have a battle between these characters take place.
Thanos increased his power after their skirmish and Odin failed to put Thanos down then so
Thanos>Odin.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0The problem with that battle though, is that Thor never beat the fully amped Thanos.
Based on Belt of Strength-amped, Odinforce-armored classic Thor's decisive victory over an Illumination Stone/Chalice of Ruins-amped Thanos clone in the Tears of the Gods storyline, it's very arguable that Odinforce Thor wins over Thanos.Unless you are of the opinion that a BoS-amped, Odinforce-armored classic Thor is stronger than Odinforce Thor. Or unless you are of the opinion that an Illumination Stone/Chalice of Ruins-amped is significantly weaker than unamped Thanos.
While technically he did beat Thanos upgraded, it was the definition of plot induced stupidity to do so.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he could.Collateral damage doesn't make someone more powerful imo especially when we have a battle between these characters take place.
Thanos increased his power after their skirmish and Odin failed to put Thanos down then so
Thanos>Odin.
Collateral damage?
Show me Thanos doing something akin as destroying an entire Galaxy or unleashing that type of power.
Odin has fluctuated from one level of power to another in his entire career. Mostly depending on how powerful he needs to be for each story.
He can go from shattering entire Galaxies, reigniting dead suns, shaking the fabric of the Multiverse, to his fight with Thanos.....
It's not like Odin was using all the power he had. He was simply surprised that his attack which one shotted Silver Surfer, didn't put Thanos down, and that the Mad Titan kept getting up.
That doesn't mean Odin "can't" put Thanos down. He just didn't try hard enough.
I mean seriously, the fact that Asgard basically shows the difference.
I can't believe you actually think, that based on the rules and their showings that Thanos is superior to Odin.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt varies from writer to writer. Thanos wasn't far off Odin in their fight. Thanos has been upgraded since then as well. Odin admitted he was out to kill Thanos and even thought he had done so. Odin respected Thanos and even said as much.
Collateral damage?Show me Thanos doing something akin as destroying an entire Galaxy or unleashing that type of power.
Odin has fluctuated from one level of power to another in his entire career. Mostly depending on how powerful he needs to be for each story.
He can go from shattering entire Galaxies, reigniting dead suns, shaking the fabric of the Multiverse, to his fight with Thanos.....
It's not like Odin was using all the power he had. He was simply surprised that his attack which one shotted Silver Surfer, didn't put Thanos down, and that the Mad Titan kept getting up.
That doesn't mean Odin "can't" put Thanos down. He just didn't try hard enough.
I mean seriously, the fact that Asgard basically shows the difference.
I can't believe you actually think, that based on the rules and their showings that Thanos is superior to Odin.
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You can't even prove Odin can defeat Thanos let alone after his power was increased after marvel's the end.
We don't ignore direct comparisons to prove a character beats the other one in comics. 🙄
Originally posted by quanchi112
It varies from writer to writer. Thanos wasn't far off Odin in their fight. Thanos has been upgraded since then as well. Odin admitted he was out to kill Thanos and even thought he had done so. Odin respected Thanos and even said as much.You can't even prove Odin can defeat Thanos let alone after his power was increased after marvel's the end.
We don't ignore direct comparisons to prove a character beats the other one in comics. 🙄
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He wasn't far off from Odin in that fight?
Thanos didn't phase Odin and Odin was smacking him around. Thanos was able to pull himself back up, but that's about it.
What direct comparisons?
You yourself just stated he fluctuates and that's true, but in these boards, we use the characters here to their best of abilities and plot induced stupidity is ignored, meaning, Odin caves Thanos' head in.