Thor vs Thanos

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus33 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
Regardless, in the comic Thanos didn't get sent flying until gungir was introduced. That's a fact.

Jesus....

It doesn't change the fact that the weapon does not augment his power output. He simply uses it to channel, his power from what I recall.

Is it so hard to comprehend that when he pulled out Gungnir he used more power, than he did when he did not have Gungnir?

Is it that difficult for you to grasp?

Thanos was backhanded before Gungnir etc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What would happen after the fight had stopped is anyone's guess.

I think it's pretty clear to everyone else but you if the two kept fighting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I see no reason as to why he would hold back in this fight. No reason at all.

I don't either, but the fact is he has done it before when Asgard was being invaded etc. and going off by logic he was doing it there.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, you're the one that keeps trying to go off on tangents.
You are asking me to prove something in a manner that has never happened before.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Jesus....

It doesn't change the fact that the weapon does not augment his power output. He simply uses it to channel, his power from what I recall.

Is it so hard to comprehend that when he pulled out Gungnir he used more power, than he did when he did not have Gungnir?

Is it that difficult for you to grasp?

Thanos was backhanded before Gungnir etc.

I think it's pretty clear to everyone else but you if the two kept fighting.

he was backhand blasted. he barely moved back. Gungir shot him back. Odin wouldn't pull out gungir if it didn't help. The comic clearly showed us that it helped.

It's speculation either way.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't either, but the fact is he has done it before when Asgard was being invaded etc. and going off by logic he was doing it there.
Different storyline, different situation, different writer. LOL.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he was backhand blasted. he barely moved back. Gungir shot him back. Odin wouldn't pull out gungir if it didn't help. The comic clearly showed us that it helped.

It's speculation either way.

No it's not speculation, it's just common sense.

It's not:

Odin with Gungnir > Odin without Gungnir

It's:

Odin without Gungnir = Odin with Gungnir

Anyone else want to try and give it a go?

I would start using flash cards if I could at this point but I don't think they would help either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Different storyline, different situation, different writer. LOL.

facepalm

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are asking me to prove something in a manner that has never happened before.

No, I asked if you were claiming Odin went all out during the Thanos fight.

Are you claiming that you can prove Odin was going "all out

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No it's not speculation, it's just common sense.

It's not:

Odin with Gungnir > Odin without Gungnir

It's:

Odin without Gungnir = Odin with Gungnir

Anyone else want to try and give it a go?

I would start using flash cards if I could at this point but I don't think they would help either.

Again, in this fight it definitely effected Thanos more so than without it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm
You still think other storylines magically link to each other.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, I asked if you were claiming Odin went all out during the Thanos fight.
I listed my rationale. Odin has never stated that he ever went all out. That's what you keep asking for even though it's never ever happened.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I listed my rationale. Odin has never stated that he ever went all out. That's what you keep asking for even though it's never ever happened.

I haven't asked for proof since you admitted it doesn't exist, you're just trying to get the last word.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, in this fight it definitely effected Thanos more so than without it.

Again, it doesn't really matter, as all the power comes from Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You still think other storylines magically link to each other.

No, I simply consider "all" of a character's showings. Their overall showings, etc.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I haven't asked for proof since you admitted it doesn't exist, you're just trying to get the last word.
You asked for something that never happened. I gave my opinion and you won't let it go.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Again, it doesn't really matter, as all the power comes from Odin.

No, I simply consider "all" of a character's showings. Their overall showings, etc.

In that story like I said Odin rocked him after he used gungir. Prior to that he wasn't really even so much as slightly moving him back.

Then you ignore the writer's intent as it was made plain as day. Thanos is in league with Odin here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You asked for something that never happened. I gave my opinion and you won't let it go.

No, I asked if you were claiming Odin went all out, you then spent several pages dodging the question, then you finally admitted it was just your opinion, after that I stopped asking you for proof.

I've been willing to let things go for several posts now, you however keep stating things that aren't true, which is I have to respond and correct you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, I asked if you were claiming Odin went all out, you then spent several pages dodging the question, then you finally admitted it was just your opinion, after that I stopped asking you for proof.

I've been willing to let things go for several posts now, you however keep stating things that aren't true, which is I have to respond and correct you.

You refused to answer my questions and then claimed you'd answer after I answered your question. You didn't and have been asking me to prove a negative for you. According to your logic, Odin can never been proven to go all out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In that story like I said Odin rocked him after he used gungir. Prior to that he wasn't really even so much as slightly moving him back.

The most logical thing, is that Odin simply exerted more power when he used Gungnir. You are so thick headed, you want to believe that Odin couldn't accomplish it without Gungnir.

Odin backhanded him etc. then immediately pulled out Gungnir which does nothing but channel the power Odin puts in to it. It does not augment it from what I recall.

So therefore, Odin could accomplish what he did without Gungnir. It doesn't matter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then you ignore the writer's intent as it was made plain as day. Thanos is in league with Odin here.

What the hell are you talking about?

Are you even addressing my previous statement with this post?

Oh, and it really doesn't matter what one instance shows, as the overall showings point to, Odin caving Thanos' head in.

You simply want to ignore them all.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The most logical thing, is that Odin simply exerted more power when he used Gungnir. You are so thick headed, you want to believe that Odin couldn't accomplish it without Gungnir.

Odin backhanded him etc. then immediately pulled out Gungnir which does nothing but channel the power Odin puts in to it. It does not augment it from what I recall.

So therefore, Odin could accomplish what he did without Gungnir. It doesn't matter.

What the hell are you talking about?

Are you even addressing my previous statement with this post?

Oh, and it really doesn't matter what one instance shows, as the overall showings point to, Odin caving Thanos' head in.

You simply want to ignore them all.

Odin had ample time to do so and he didn't. He did so with gungir. It's pretty obvious and clear cut.

Their one fight showed Odin getting the better of Thanos, but not defeating him. That's it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin had ample time to do so and he didn't. He did so with gungir. It's pretty obvious and clear cut.

Their one fight showed Odin getting the better of Thanos, but not defeating him. That's it.

I'm tired and I'm going to bed.

I'm mostly tired with arguing with a guy who doesn't see anything else other than what he wants to see.

Anyone care to give it a shot?

I say it's useless, but whatever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You refused to answer my questions and then claimed you'd answer after I answered your question. You didn't and have been asking me to prove a negative for you. According to your logic, Odin can never been proven to go all out.

Incorrect again, I asked

Are you claiming that you can prove Odin was going "all out

You then spent several pages dodging and trying to bring up tangents, I've answered all the questions you've asked that had any bearing on the discussion we were having, IE whether or not there was any proof that Odin went all out in the Thanos fight.

This line of conversation sucks.

Thor w/ Odinforce is not Odin w/ Odinforce. He doesn't have the sun-creating, galaxy-busting, multiverse-shaking feats Odin does. Let's debate that, and scenario two where Thor's in the Destroyer, hmm? Please? 😛

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm tired and I'm going to bed.

I'm mostly tired with arguing with a guy who doesn't see anything else other than what he wants to see.

Anyone care to give it a shot?

I say it's useless, but whatever.

You keep claiming he could do so without gungir, but he didn't. You want to ignore the comic and tell me what could have happened.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Incorrect again, I asked

You then spent several pages dodging and trying to bring up tangents, I've answered all the questions you've asked that had any bearing on the discussion we were having, IE whether or not there was any proof that Odin went all out in the Thanos fight.

Imo he went all out. You can't prove he didn't.