Originally posted by Endless Mike
Here is Wally saying he could outrun gravity, meaning he could run into the air too fast for gravity to pull him down:http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff164/WallyWestRespect/wallyflashtick.jpg
No, he's explicity stating that "out running gravity" is what lets him seem to walk on water. That panel is all one sentence.
Originally posted by tjcoady
No, I understand what you're saying. A normal human would have no chance of beating Captain America.... and Captain America would be clearly MUCH, MUCH faster than any of us... but it wouldn't be a speedblitz . In a fight, he would be using his speed offensively, and we wouldn't be able to guard against it.... but it would be more or less "within" our level. That's why it wouldn't exactly be a speedblitz if Spiderman attacked Cap really, really fast- Spiderman is much faster than Cap, but he's not so far outside of his speed "level" that Cap couldn't possibly guard against it.Someone like Wally moving far in excess of the speed of sound, attacking Cap, though, would be a speedblitz: Cap can never HOPE to match those levels of speed.
I guess we're in agreement here. Just phrasing it differently.
You may not be able to outrun a cheetah but you defend against the same as against a tiger or cougar or any other big cat. I wouldn't classify it as a speedblitz.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No, he's explicity stating that "out running gravity" is what lets him seem to walk on water. That panel is all one sentence.
It seems to read as a brief list of three things that his speed allows him to accomplish, each separated by ellipses: outrun gravity...run on water...race light.
Originally posted by tjcoadyI do agree that it is not 'in character' for Flash to run on thin air, or in space, to engage a flying opponent. The only reason I posted those scans is because it seemed as though Flash's ability to do so at all, was being questioned.
Yeah, I see what you're saying. All I mean to say is we get things like "Flash versus Magneto" in the versus thread, and people just state "speedblitz"... But the instances of Flash hitting a target that's even just flying low to the ground are rare, and involve him jumping off a hill, or a construct from GL in JLA, or something like that. And him hitting someone who is flying pretty high up? Practically never.Basically, my point is that Flash is tremendously, tremendously overrated based on his "possible" powers, rather than how he ever acts.
