Originally posted by Eminence
Potential. He'd barely broken thirty and was already more powerful than Vader, who himself was 80% as powerful as the OT Emperor.
Which means what exactly? How do you know he won't peak at 95% of OT Emperor? And how does this have any relation to DE Sidious, who was more powerful than OT Sidious?
Not to mention Caedus was trained practically from birth, whereas Luke and Vader weren't. I'm not sure how potential plays into this since you can't really substantiate it.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefingtonThat at thirty one Caedus was already more than 80% as powerful as the OT Emperor.
Which means what exactly?
How do you know he won't peak at 95% of OT Emperor?That's highly unlikely. One, he was very, very young, a little over a third the age of the OT Emperor. Two, he'd declared himself a Sith, what, a year before his death? He'd hardly had any time to study or train in lore, especially considering he'd been managing part of a galactic war on the side.
And how does this have any relation to DE Sidious, who was more powerful than OT Sidious?Point right there.
Like Caedus, Palpatine was [presumably] trained from a very young age. As of ROTS he'd been a Sith for at least sixty years, twice as long as Caedus had even been alive. And in the twenty two year gap between ROTS and ROTJ he grew notably more powerful through his studies. He did it again, in the six year gap between ROTJ and DE; he's been a Sith for a little under a century by that point.
So to reason that Caedus had neared his maximum potential when he was less than a third of "peak" Palpatine's age is more than a little ridiculous.
Originally posted by Eminence
That at thirty one Caedus was already more than 80% as powerful as the OT Emperor.
Caedus probably could have been.
That's highly unlikely. One, he was very, very young, a little over a third the age of the OT Emperor. Two, he'd declared himself a Sith, what, a year before his death? He'd hardly had any time to study or train in lore, especially considering he'd been managing part of a galactic war on the side.
Like Caedus, Palpatine was [presumably] trained from a very young age. As of ROTS he'd been a Sith for at least sixty years, twice as long as Caedus had even been alive. And in the twenty two year gap between ROTS and ROTJ he grew notably more powerful through his studies. He did it again, in the six year gap between ROTJ and DE; he's been a Sith for a little under a century by that point.So to reason that Caedus had neared his maximum potential when he was less than a third of "peak" Palpatine's age is more than a little ridiculous.
It's a reason conclusion or assumption to go on. Skywalkers have a tendency to learn faster than average Jedi/Sith...
Anakin was barely on par with Obi-Wan in RotS, Luke was barely on par with Vader (perhaps not as much as Anakin to Obi-Wan) in RotJ. I'm not very knowledgeable with Skywalkers before Cade and after Luke, but Cade was better than 2 jedi knight level sith and barely parred on level with a weak and dying Krayt, with very little training and a huge gap between training and picking up the saber again...
i don't see why, with the right amount of time and training, Caedus couldn't have been as if not more powerful than Sidious
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
That was what your conclusion was based on.
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It’s a plan that will be as difficult and dangerous to execute as it is daring. For Caedus is a scion of both the Skywalker and Solo bloodlines whose command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader.
Originally posted by CadoAngelus Anakin was barely on par with Obi-Wan in RotS, Luke was barely on par with Vader (perhaps not as much as Anakin to Obi-Wan) in RotJ.
And Luke was not on par with Vader at all. In a the "Courtship of Princess Leia," while being hit by FL from a force witch Luke says something along the lines of "so this is what it would have been like if Vader had tried to kill him...." Luke originally got the advantage on Vader (knocking him down the stairs) by using his anger, and the fact that Vader had no reason to go all out. Then he used even more aggression(dark side) the second time he attacked Vader. Luke in a normal state would not do nowhere near as well vs Vader.
Originally posted by CadoAngelus
is there any visible evidence that this isn't a reasonable assumption to go on? it makes sense, does it not?surely, given the amount of assumptions in the SW universe due to lack of continuity or many loose ends, people aren't just arguing personal opinion over logical conclusion...
Every single source that mentions the prophecy of the Chosen One, including George Lucas himself, has made it abundantly clear: to balance the Force, you must destroy the Sith Order (specifically Palpatine). They are the cause of the imbalance.