As the films made clear- thought to be destroyed, in fact lived on in secret, came back, unbalanced the Force, destroyed when Anakin killed the Emperor (and himself). Imbalance gone, Balance restored.
Cado, it is manifestly NOT ying/yang Light/Dark balance as you suggest. GL has explicitly explained that the Dark Side is the side of parasitic imbalance, the Light is the side of symbiotic Balance. Light = Balance, Dark = imbalance. There is no way at all in which Jedi cause imbalance by being domnant- quite the opposite, they promote it.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
As the films made clear- thought to be destroyed, in fact lived on in secret, came back, unbalanced the Force, destroyed when Anakin killed the Emperor (and himself). Imbalance gone, Balance restored.Cado, it is manifestly NOT ying/yang Light/Dark balance as you suggest. GL has explicityly explained that the Dark Side is the side of parasitic imbalance, the Light is the side of symbiotic Balance. Light = Balance, Dark = imbalance. There is no way at all in whuich Jedi cause imbalance by being domnant- quite the opposite, they promote it.
Out of curiosity, how do you regard the EU's retarded decision to try to "resurrect" the Sith Order in the form of Caedus, Lumiya, and Darth Krayt?
Eh, Marek greatly displeases me. They made him seem godly for the sake of people being thrilled with what they could do in game, but it makes Vader and Palpatine look... well, less than formidable in contrast. Didn't like that.
I too enjoy the Legacy comics, Cado. I feel obliged to keep on top of it because it is, if you think about it, the future of Star Wars. Eventually, even if the series gets canceled at some point, they will start writing books in that time period, and video games, and so on.
I think the "no time frame" thing is really the only way to explain it. after all, sideous came back, thus no balance was achieved in the force for longer than 10 years or w/e. I think the eu writers screwed it up when they had sith anyway and we have to make dumb rationalizations to what should have ended with sideous falling down an electricity tube and the ewok song. Instead we are given all of this stuff that happens afterwords and expected to accept it as "look there is balance to the force... they just arent real sith!"
Once again, I would I ask: is there any statement that any statement that gave a time frame for how long the balance should last? I am not a fan of post ROTJ sith but technically if there isn't a time period for how long the balance would last then the authors aren't contradicting the "chosen one" prophecy.
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Once again, I would I ask: is there any statement that gave a time frame for how long the balance should last? I am not a fan of post ROTJ sith but technically if there isn't a time period for how long the balance would last then the authors aren't contradicting the "chosen one" prophecy.
I think what some people have said rings true here, that being that the skywalker legacy is in fact the "chosen one" and the sense of bringing balance to the force is subjective to the entire lineage...
Anakin does it, til his falling (yes, ive embrassed other peoples concept of "balance to the force"😉, Luke does it and carries it through until Cade (all skywalker blooded jedi excluding Jacen), and Cade is yet to do it...
Originally posted by Gideon
Out of curiosity, how do you regard the EU's retarded decision to try to "resurrect" the Sith Order in the form of Caedus, Lumiya, and Darth Krayt?
Not the EU's finest hour. It's not that I think the Dark Side should be dead and buried forever- it is, after all, the primary Star Wars antagonist- but you can only beat a dead horse so much, and this one also, as discussed, rather contradicts the spirit of the movies. It's just lazy storytelling for effect (because readers think the Sith are cool), a habit some sections of the EU suffer from (re: some of the superweapons the early EU came up with).
Time to put the Sith to rest, I think, unless you are makng a historical novel. There are other ways to explore the Dark Side.
As for time scaling- well yes, there's nothing to say that the FOrce will never be unbalanced again, but logic as to the point of the Prophecy, not to mention simple dramatic necessity, says that the whole of the Star Wars Saga should have some significant effect, not be just a blip.
Of course, GL has made understanding all of this harder by never explaining any of the fundamentals inside the films.
Obviously time scaling would help. but to almost instantly have MORE SITH out the wazoo, kind of makes the whole ancient prophecy/messiah thing empty and worthless. Sure... why not 100 years later have some threat happen. not with the same characters that were in the ot for christ's sake. and then instead of having a minor problem, it goes on for 105 years or whatever it is all the way up to whatshisfaces in legacy vector comics. seriously. Its like 'oh look he brought balance to the force, lets have a whole fortnight of being sith free before we go back into 100 years of turmoil.