Originally posted by namorsubby
just a tease.....but you ignored the real question. it's ok though. i already know the answer.
ok it's about time i agree to disagree here. all those who argue in favor of sabes, i can fully comprehend why. sabes has the tools to end this and at the least holds the advantage in healing factor and skill. and it's not as if i believe this match is evenly remotely one-sided, but i feel curt is faster, more agile, and can compensate for less healing ability through his highly durable skin. i feel those would be enough to grant him the win more often than not, but that is simply my opinion.
oh, and here's the neck breaking feat battlehammer:
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view¤t=Spider-Man005-18.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view¤t=Spider-Man005-19.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view¤t=Spider-Man005-22-1.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view¤t=Spider-Man005-23.jpg
Originally posted by namorsubbyoh, and here's the neck breaking feat battlehammer:
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view¤t=Spider-Man005-18.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view¤t=Spider-Man005-19.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view¤t=Spider-Man005-22-1.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view¤t=Spider-Man005-23.jpg
nice. I actaully think I may own that comic lol
Originally posted by namorsubbyWell I wasn't trying to engage in a pissing contest but... since you insist...
ok. neck breaking, shrugging off explosive force. all been done by curt, except for in my scans, curt's skin had no sign of injury
Pffft the scans you showed are ambiguous at best, quite debateable and involve instances in which mere humans survived the same explosions... 😐
Spiderman and Electro survived being at ground zero of an explosion that took off the top of an apartment building. Neither of them would walk away from taking a grenade shell dead on with virtually no damage whatsoever.
As for the neck breaking.... You haven't shown anything that even REMOTELY compares with Sabretooth being shot from the stratosphere, crashlanding on Earth, getting up unhindered and then beating on three enemies who no sold Rogue, so I'm not sure which alternate universe you're living in but it ain't 616.
Originally posted by jinzinsorry but that would be utter PIS then
You haven't shown anything that even REMOTELY compares with Sabretooth being shot from the stratosphere, crashlanding on Earth, getting up unhindered and then beating on three enemies who no sold Rogue, so I'm not sure which alternate universe you're living in but it ain't 616.
QUOTE=11786554]Originally posted by namorsubby
lol. i know you're not refering to that punisher/spidey team up on your thread? tsk,tsk,tsk. that proved nothing[/QUOTE] that was only half of what I was reffering to.
And how does that not prove anything?
Sabretooth closed ground on Spiderman before he could do anything, ignored his punches, cuaght him before he could react, tossed him away like an annoyance and then brought a roof down on top of him before he could react... all while Punisher was trying to take potshots at him with automatic rifle fire.
Originally posted by namorsubby
and so what, lizard has embarassed spidey several times in the past. he's appeared completely helpless against savage curt.
And he did it faster than Lizards ever done it in 1on1's.
helpless against Savage Curt? When? When he was posioned?
And that's just it! You want to make Lizard out to be Sabretooth's superior based on his performances around Spiderman but in reality, Spiderman's performances against Creed have been worse. Shall we just ignore those, so you can pretend Lizard's going to win here?
Originally posted by namorsubbyHe didn't desire to die. 🤨
lol, if you're gonna state instances like with vermin, you might wanna mention important facts like how curt was fighting against a desire to die when he was engaged and that as soon as he overcame it he easily turned the tide. things like that are important so statements don't end up seeming convienently one-sided
It never said that. What it said was that once he was attacked and Vermin had the advantage there was a part in him that said to give up. Obviously he didn't but the fight continued off panel for an entire issue after that and the non partison narrative flat out stated they were trying to kill eachother.
Too bad Lizard had a hard time doing it... same as he did with Black Cat. 😐 Shit, Sabretooth performed better against her when she was uber enhanced by Kingpin WITHOUT powers than Lizard did against her toned down selft with em.
Originally posted by namorsubbyRead first class. I don't have them on hand as I haven't previously saved them to file.
beast? really? scans? same goes for kraven
Originally posted by namorsubby
you guys have shown me nothing "far and away superior" in terms of healing feats. period. but yeah, go ahead, just keep saying that.
Uh yeah I did.. Lest you have something that remotely compares to being stabbed in the heart and ignoring it or falling from space and getting up immediately...
Originally posted by namorsubbyBy lookinng at the size and weight of apartment generators that get bolted down to the roof. 😐
so how exactly did you calculate how much that generator weighed? what kind is it? how did you exactly come to this conclusion.
Originally posted by namorsubbyyeah....
when did sabes so easily gut spidey and please don't be speaking in reference to that whole pun/spidey team-up. it's started to get sad.
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1462/sabes3au2.jpg
Originally posted by namorsubby
oh,and if you picked up a few liz appearances you'd know liz has dropped spidey quick,fast, and in a hurry several times. heck, you don't even need to do that, just check his thread.
Considering that he only typically appears in Spiderman issues, and I make it a point to own or read as many Spidey issues as I can get my hands on......
yeah he does so using prep, sneak attacks, help, distractions, plot devices and any plethora of crap that doesn't mean anything on KMC... what happens when those aren't a factor? Spiderman webs his face faster than he can even move.
Originally posted by namorsubby
so he regularly exhibits 50 class level durability? like against daredevil?
Exactly like that actually... Which is why Daredevil for all his effort and attempts did nothing but momentarily stall Sabretooth to no effect. In spite of being a guy who can take down people like Hyde, Spidey, and Kingpin with strikes, he couldn't even make Sabretooth stagger.
Same for Rogue, Ms. Marvel, Killpower, N'garai Demons, Sasquatch, Wendigo, a bearer of the Starbrand, Caliban, Samson, Sinister's Supermen, The new children, The X-mansion's power used by Bishop.
and THAT fight was before 3 or 4 major upgrades to the character.
Originally posted by Battlehammeryeah that's not a neck breaking/healinng feat.
nice. I actaully think I may own that comic lol
The narrative says that spiderman throws the chains hard enough to break A neck not that it was thrown hard enough to break Lizards neck and there's not even an FX sound made to justify an assumption otherwise. You see the DOOMDOOMDOOM of the chains hitting but no Krk, crack, snap, etc etc to claim that his neck was actually broken. 😐
Originally posted by jinzin
yeah that's not a neck breaking/healinng feat.The narrative says that spiderman throws the chains hard enough to break A neck not that it was thrown hard enough to break Lizards neck and there's not even an FX sound made to justify an assumption otherwise. You see the DOOMDOOMDOOM of the chains hitting but no Krk, crack, snap, etc etc to claim that his neck was actually broken. 😐
yea I thought if that two when i saw it as well. It not real prove that it was actaully broken
Originally posted by Battlehammer
you mean before he had a healing factor written into his character........or any power at all really........yea sweet.oh and when did low showings become the norm?
That's not even a low showing there's plenty of good stuff there.
Blitzing DD.
using his heightened senses to fight in the dark.
Deducing that Matt was blind just by watching his reactions in the environment.
taking everything Matt had and shrugging it off like it didn't even happen.
The only thing Sabretooth didn't do well was strike Matt down and since this was still within his first 12 or so appearances, is completely forgiveable.
Originally posted by jinzinlol....go read a lizard bio, after that encounter liz was assumed dead, and spidey was supposed to have in fact broken curt's neck.
yeah that's not a neck breaking/healinng feat.The narrative says that spiderman throws the chains hard enough to break A neck not that it was thrown hard enough to break Lizards neck and there's not even an FX sound made to justify an assumption otherwise. You see the DOOMDOOMDOOM of the chains hitting but no Krk, crack, snap, etc etc to claim that his neck was actually broken. 😐
what do you think happened.....lizard just went all "dead" for no reason or something? lol
Originally posted by Battlehammerdoh......there's no way.
yea I thought if that two when i saw it as well. It not real prove that it was actaully broken
are you guys really trying to take this feat from liz by simply denying it? the dialogue was in fact refering to lizard's neck, not just any ole random neck that couldn've been broken. are you serious?
BTW, the doom,doom,doom is completely irrelevant. it had been reoccuring often in the panels for the whole storyline.