Originally posted by namorsubby
spidey's performances against lizard have indeed been worse. and yes, lizard has stopped spidey much faster than sabes did in that pun team up, and in a much more definite way. check the thread. i believe it's like their second encounter. spidey has no chance. hell spidey has all out punched lizard and hurt/fractured his knuckles on his face, without the lizard being remotely injured.
Yeah, no they haven't. Spiderman by himself WHILE restraining himself has tangled with Conners for pages on end.. He can't even handle Sabretooth for panels on end.... WITH HELP.
Spiderman's hurt his hand on Conner's face with two or three punches iirc and yet STILL manages to give him full fledged fights.
What part of that cements having a harder time or weaker performances?
Originally posted by namorsubby
jesus.......curt DID desire to die in that fight with vermin. i have the scans on my thread that state so within the dialogue of their fight.you might wanna check through there [b]thoroughly before you state anymore "facts" concerning the lizard. this is getting ridiculous[/B]
Yeah no he didn't. He had an in-fight moment of weakness where he almost considered giving in, and then he didn't. You act like he was considering suicide or had put major thought into this "desire to die" when in fact the non-partison narrative states flat out that he's reacting on pure instinct before the fight, and then states flat out that he's trying to kill Vermin after he starts fighting back.
His "desire to die" was actually just a moment of thought about giving in.. and it lasted all of one moment during a two comic slugfest.
Your version of "facts" are interesting to say the least.
Originally posted by namorsubby
black cat was uberly enhanced by the rock of life against lizard when they fought(AND SO WAS VERMIN).
Yeah? Prove it.....
As far as Stegron was concerned, mammals were devolving and getting weaker while lizards and reptiles were getting stronger.
As far as Reed was concerned it was simply driving various parties insane.
And if YOUR take WAS correct. You would be ignoring the fact that any upgrades would be geometric and in an order starting with Reptiles. Conners would also be getting stronger. Nice attempt to pretend like he was fighting enhanced enemies though, when infact they were simply driven to madness.
You want to argue otherwise.. Please provide where it was stated.
Originally posted by namorsubby
and the only reason she took the advantage was because curt's son was shot before his eyes and it was a bit of a distraction to say the least.
Oh please that was at the tail end of their fight. Before that happened she was WELL into holding her own... 😐
That's not even up for debate.
Originally posted by namorsubby
i love how you bring up instances like this and simply leave out what is inconvienent to your arguement.
Oh you mean like bringing up two explosions in an attempt to prove Reptiles durability where REGULAR HUMANS also survived said explosions?
No... you must mean like pretending that one panel of in fight thought takes precendence over pages of narrative?
Oh wait that was you.
Originally posted by namorsubby
idk if i can stand anymore of your "facts". cat wasn't "toned down". she was the most savage and powerful she's been. exact opposites. can't believe this.
You THINK she was the most powerful she's ever been because she performed well against Lizard... but you also think Lizard has mass amounts of taking Spiderman out with ease giving no credit as to the surrounding circumstances for why.
She WAS more savage... because she was losing her mind. At no point was there any reference that I remember as to her increasing in ability. Please provide evidence if you think otherwise.
Or I can just pretend she was enhanced when she took fights to Venom and Carnage.
Originally posted by namorsubby
anyway. i believe i agreed to disagree some time back. good match, but i'll take curt FTM
Yeah you did, but don't think just because you bow out you're somehow going to get the last word on a mountain of proposed bullshit. Like no one is going to correct you because you came to an "agreement"...