Lizard vs. Sabretooth

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're talking about Logan. Sabes was in much better shape. His durability is underrated, you know. Of course 'subby ignored that part 😉

http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_19.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_20.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_21.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man005-09.jpg

If you take a look at the picture, you see no stomach, intestines, kidneys, livers, a bunch, if not ALL, internal organs are missing.

you can determine all that from this?
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4691/wolverine51012.jpg

really?

Originally posted by namorsubby
i just showed lizard shrugging of fire and an explosion(below). does it matter it sabes wasn't as bad off as wolvie? he still had to regenerate.

Never said that Creed's external durability was better than Lizard's. Still, surviving Blackbird's crash is more impressive.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Never said that Creed's external durability was better than Lizard's. Still, surviving Blackbird's crash is more impressive.

Than explosions which Lizard survived. Let's just agree to disagree on that part.

yeah, i guess sabes exhibits more impressive healing feats there......since curt didn't have to heal. but yeah agree to disagree.

all i'm saying is lizard has comparable healing ability, not that he matches or exceeds sabes.

Naturally Creed has much more healing feats, 'cause it's easier to injure him.

I'll agree to disagree, but I stand with Stilt on this, Tooth takes it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He has animal instincts and swiftness, that's enough. Class 30 character would be able to temporarily stun Creed. And Lizzy can whip his tail at speed up to 70 miles per hour. Trust me, even Creed would feel that.

Healing Factor? Too bad Lizard has one, too. And he's actually bulletproof, unlike Creed.

Animal instincts and swiftness didn't help Wendigo much. 😐

And I truely wonder how a class 30 character is going to stun him when class 50-100 characters have failed to do so with multitudes of blows.

Lizard has a regenerative factor but it's nowhere NEAR the same level as top healers like Creed and Logan. And Creed has proven to be bullet proof before as well... and grenade launcher proof, and bishop hitting him with the entire X-mansion's energy proof. 😬

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
'cause you don't read comics 😬

How the hell does that prove that Lizard could rip Sabretooth limb form limb?
😕

All that proved was that Sabretooth's ligaments can be overextended it didn't prove that his skeleton, ligaments and tissue can be easily torn completely apart. Hell it didn't even prove that his Adamantium isn't bonded together.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Lizard. stronger,faster,more durable, and with a comparable healing factor. he also has range advantage with that tail of his.....which also happens to be his most powerful weapon. not only that, but lizard has, on several occassions, dominated spidey in a way that i just wouldn't expect of creed.

Lizard?..... has been pwned by Vermin, stalemated by classic human skinned Beast, and put on the defensive by Kraven iirc.

Originally posted by namorsubby
sabes is not 12 ton class, period. his strength level has gone unspecified often, and his strength feats aren't as impressive.

of course he is faster. spidey fast > sabes fast. there's no way i'll even argue with you about that. anyone equal to(and sometimes stated above) spidey in terms of speed/agility who lacks a spider-sense is faster than creed. no doubt at all.

lizard's reptilian skin is definitely more durable in every aspect than creed's. this isn't even factoring in his healing factor

Sabretooth has lifted ten ton generators, ripped men apart who were able to resist Adamantium claws and ran through a force field designed to stop a full grown elephant charges. Even horses generate 7+ tons of force at a gallop.

You're basing your argument on Lizards speed on his performance against spidey but ignoring Sabretooth's? Yeah that's logical. Tell me why Lizard has never so easily gutted Spiderman as Sabretooth has if he's so much faster?

And while his Skin might be more durable there's no proof whatsoever that his muscles and tendons are. And you probably WOULDN'T want to factor in their healing factor since Creed's far and away his superior.

Kraven written correctly is a beast in his own right, i really dont count that as a low showing

Originally posted by namorsubby
curt's HF is comparable:

http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-14.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-15.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-22.jpg

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Kraven written correctly is a beast in his own right, i really dont count that as a low showing

I'm not claiming that these ARE low showings. Kraven is very tough. BUT they are showing which are undermined by Creed.

Originally posted by jinzin
He took on shard going through his Torso and it put him momentarily down.... How is that remotely comparible to someone who walked through having his heart stabbed?

Because Spiderman villians are dumbed down so the web-slinger can score a win. Think about it his rogue gallery could be team wreckers, Electro, Hydro-Man, Sandman, Carnage....if written correctly but they jobb. Anywho Creed destroys the good doctor, but it should be a good fight.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Because Spiderman villians are dumbed down so the web-slinger can score a win. Think about it his rogue gallery could be team wreckers, Electro, Hydro-Man, Sandman, Carnage....if written correctly but they jobb. Anywho Creed destroys the good doctor, but it should be a good fight.

As to whether or not Sabretooth can take his neck breaking.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/474/dogs3a.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5953/dogs4.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/338/dogs5.jpg

Though I don't think it matters as Lizard doesn't have the sufficient power enough to do this to creed.

I also fail to see why Creed's muscles need to be described as steel cables AGAIN to validate the claim when his feats seem to support this

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3369/dpool2.jpg

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Because Spiderman villians are dumbed down so the web-slinger can score a win. Think about it his rogue gallery could be team wreckers, Electro, Hydro-Man, Sandman, Carnage....if written correctly but they jobb. Anywho Creed destroys the good doctor, but it should be a good fight.

That's not an excuse for why Conners has lower healing feats.. There is no excuse. He simply doesn't heal as effeciently.

Originally posted by jalek moye
its not that they jobb its that they arent very smart for the most part, so spidey outsmarts them.
and is ussaly alot faster and more agile then them

hmmm, making every powerful character he fights utterly retarded is dumbing them down to give parker the easy win.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
hmmm, making every powerful character he fights utterly retarded is dumbing them down to give parker the easy win.